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MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap

DannyGordon

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DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Wed 29-Aug-12 01:29 PM

Hi everybody!

Just bought a D7000 (before moving to FX - probably will go for a D800 in near future - I want to use one more year my already bought DX lenses) and the battery grip.

Any of you that already saw being used or used the MB-D11 grip can tell me if it's safe to use my BlackRapid strap with the grip attached to the camera?

Is it dangerous to rely on the grip attachment to the body?

How tight and secure is the grip when attached?

Thanks for any insight.

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DeanAZ

Phoenix, US
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#1. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 0

DeanAZ Gold Member Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007
Wed 29-Aug-12 12:29 PM

It works great for me. I have the Nikon grip and I am confident in the security of the attachment. It never comes loose unless I want to remove it.

Dean
Phoenix, Arizona USA

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DannyGordon

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#2. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 1

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Wed 29-Aug-12 04:23 PM

Thanks Dean.

So you think I can use the BlackRapid then.


>It works great for me. I have the Nikon grip and I am
>confident in the security of the attachment. It never comes
>loose unless I want to remove it.

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jadiniz

Estoril, PT
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#3. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 2

jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010
Wed 29-Aug-12 08:30 PM

Doesn't the fitting of the strap defeat the purpose of confortably handholding a vertical stance, as intended with the grip? I refused this kind of strap for that reason, although I reckon it should work great on a long lens tripod foot or a gripless body.

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DannyGordon

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#4. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 3

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Thu 30-Aug-12 02:11 AM

Not exactly in my point of view.

The way that the BlackRapid strap works and was designed allow me to take the camera off of it pretty fast.
I usually use the camera attached to the strap when I'm walking and most of the time I take the camera off the strap to shoot.
I prefer shooting with the camera without any strap at all. Naked.
But need the strap to walk around.
The BlackRapid allows me to have the good things of both worlds.
It is nice to free the camera from the strap but at the same time still have the strap on my shoulder for when my hand needs a break.

For that reason (and because I didn't know what to expect using the BlackRapid with the grip) I also bought an UpStrap which also gives me an easy way to take the strap off pretty fast with a quick release buckle to use the camera freely handheld and with a tripod.

>Doesn't the fitting of the strap defeat the purpose of
>confortably handholding a vertical stance, as intended with
>the grip? I refused this kind of strap for that reason,
>although I reckon it should work great on a long lens tripod
>foot or a gripless body.

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jadiniz

Estoril, PT
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#5. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 4

jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010
Thu 30-Aug-12 04:25 AM

Upstrap is what I have, too, but I went for the clipless option, since I wanted something simple, light and permanent. Very happy with it. I once tried a Rapid, and the piece that screws on the tripod hole prevented me from a confortable vertical handhold, and that had been the main reason for me getting the grip.

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Nocanrun

Lancaster, US
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#6. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 5

Nocanrun Registered since 15th Jul 2008
Thu 30-Aug-12 01:22 PM

I have a BlackRapid strap and a D7000 and the combination has been great. However, instead of attaching the strap to the bottom of the vertical grip (I have a Meinke), I've attached the strap to the left point of the camera.

I have not had an issue when going to vertical position as the attachment is at the bottom when held.

Being able to walk around without the neck strain has been wonderful and the BlackRapid has worked as advertised!

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km6xz

St Petersburg, RU
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#7. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 0

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Sat 01-Sep-12 03:08 AM

Maybe I am a little too cautious but I have the D7000, with grip and RS-5 and the only time the strap comes off is when on a tripod. Probably 75% of my shots are in vertical orientation.

When using a smaller lens, I attach the RS-5 to the tripod receiver in the bottom of the grip. My most common walking around lens has a foot, the 70-200vr so I attach the RS-5 to the foot and relieve some weight from the camera body. On top of all that, I use a hand strap with it adjusted so that reaching down to lift the camera, my right hand slips into the loop of the hand strap. The exact same setup is used with my D800.

The hand strap being loose fitting, for easy hand insertion, tightens up securely by just bending my fingers a little at the first joint. That does amazing things with the power of a wedge and lightening need for a firm grip on the camera. Shooting 1200 shots a night teaches you much about the stress on figures to hold, support and grip the camera. Finger tension goes to almost zero that way and 6 hours of shooting with a heavy lens leave the fingers fresh and relaxed.

A few times in events or when climbing over something, or bumped in a crowd, the strap and the hand strap did their job well by protecting the camera and a $2000++ lens and SB900 from a bad fall.
Stan
St Petersburg Russia

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DannyGordon

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#8. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 5

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Sat 01-Sep-12 03:26 PM

Yeah. Sometimes the BlackRapid little piece on the bottom of the camera gets in the way. But it's easy to unscrew.

>Upstrap is what I have, too, but I went for the clipless
>option, since I wanted something simple, light and permanent.
>Very happy with it. I once tried a Rapid, and the piece that
>screws on the tripod hole prevented me from a confortable
>vertical handhold, and that had been the main reason for me
>getting the grip.

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DannyGordon

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#9. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 6

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Sat 01-Sep-12 03:27 PM

I also like my RS-7 pretty much.

>I have a BlackRapid strap and a D7000 and the combination has
>been great. However, instead of attaching the strap to the
>bottom of the vertical grip (I have a Meinke), I've attached
>the strap to the left point of the camera.
>
>I have not had an issue when going to vertical position as the
>attachment is at the bottom when held.
>
>Being able to walk around without the neck strain has been
>wonderful and the BlackRapid has worked as advertised!

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DannyGordon

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#10. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 7

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Sat 01-Sep-12 03:41 PM

Good to know.

I have spare pieces of the Fasten-R3 and FastenR-T1 (to use with Manfrotto plates) to use on the collar of my 70-200 2.8 while using another one at the bottom of the camera. This way I don't need to unscrew the little thing very often.

>Maybe I am a little too cautious but I have the D7000, with
>grip and RS-5 and the only time the strap comes off is when on
>a tripod. Probably 75% of my shots are in vertical
>orientation.
>
>When using a smaller lens, I attach the RS-5 to the tripod
>receiver in the bottom of the grip. My most common walking
>around lens has a foot, the 70-200vr so I attach the RS-5 to
>the foot and relieve some weight from the camera body. On top
>of all that, I use a hand strap with it adjusted so that
>reaching down to lift the camera, my right hand slips into the
>loop of the hand strap. The exact same setup is used with my
>D800.
>
>The hand strap being loose fitting, for easy hand insertion,
>tightens up securely by just bending my fingers a little at
>the first joint. That does amazing things with the power of a
>wedge and lightening need for a firm grip on the camera.
>Shooting 1200 shots a night teaches you much about the stress
>on figures to hold, support and grip the camera. Finger
>tension goes to almost zero that way and 6 hours of shooting
>with a heavy lens leave the fingers fresh and relaxed.
>
>A few times in events or when climbing over something, or
>bumped in a crowd, the strap and the hand strap did their job
>well by protecting the camera and a $2000++ lens and SB900
>from a bad fall.
>Stan
>St Petersburg Russia

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km6xz

St Petersburg, RU
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#11. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 10

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Sat 01-Sep-12 11:34 PM

I do the same, have the strap on the 70-200 and let it hang by my side when switching to a smaller lens. With the security of the hand strap, and the hanging 70-200 both are stable and secure, and easily switched. To facilitate that, I too, have spare Fasten. With a belt lens pouch O can cover everything between two zooms, usually a 24-70 and the 70-200, with only the RS-5 and pouch without needing to haul a big bag around.
Stan
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RockyIII

Raleigh, US
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#12. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 4

RockyIII Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 27th May 2006
Mon 03-Sep-12 01:33 AM

Exactly which UpStrap do you use that has quick release buckles?

Thanks,

Rocky

DannyGordon

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#13. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 12

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Sun 09-Sep-12 12:52 PM

My UpStrap is the Large Pad with Heavy Duty Quick Release.
And bought both kevlar and vectron Quick Release ends.

I also lurk around with my Blackrapid RS-7 and belt and Skin pouches from ThinkTank (Skin 75, Skin 50 and a smaller one).

All products above are fantastic. Really well made and very useful.



>Exactly which UpStrap do you use that has quick release
>buckles?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rocky

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pencho

Roswell, US
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#14. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 11

pencho Registered since 19th Jun 2012
Wed 12-Sep-12 07:56 PM

I'm glad I read this thread. Since adding the MB-D11 I think it's a little to heavy to carry around my neck all day. I was using an Omni-tech neck strap but just bought a Black Rapid Sport and really like how much easier it is to carry the camera. Also like how easy it is to remove the strap because sometimes I don't want any strap in the way. I also bought the adapter that allows me to leave on my RC-2 tripod plate and attach the strap to it. Very versatile strap! Only negative is it seems a little pricey for what it is.

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DannyGordon

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#15. "Just an update" | In response to Reply # 14

DannyGordon Registered since 13th Jun 2011
Thu 20-Sep-12 10:54 PM

Now that I'm already with my D7000 in hands I could use it with the MB-D11 attached and the BlackRapid strap attached to the last.
Feels pretty safe. Does not give me the impression of the grip getting loose as I walk around.
I Just got the good habit of checking the FastenR connection once in a while.

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Snapshott

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#16. "RE: MB-D11 and BlackRapid strap" | In response to Reply # 3

Snapshott Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Sep 2007
Thu 27-Sep-12 03:52 PM

>Doesn't the fitting of the strap defeat the purpose of
>confortably handholding a vertical stance, as intended with
>the grip? I refused this kind of strap for that reason,
>although I reckon it should work great on a long lens tripod
>foot or a gripless body.

I usually attach my BlackRapid strap to the tripod mount on my londer lenses but when using smaller lenses I do attach it to my battery grip. I've never had a problem with it attached to either of my cameras' grips (D80 or D7000).

When attached to the grip I use the older FR-2 that is flat unlike the current FR-3. When holding verticle the FR-2 is in thecenter of my palm. Although I can feel it there it is not all that uncomfortable.

I haven't tried it yet but I also have the FR-T1 made for Manfrotto plates. It's a lot lower provile than the FR-2. So I'm going to put the rubber gasket on it and try that instead.

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