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D7100 first thoughts...

billD80

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 12:10 AM

Body-wise, great solid camera. Without the Battery Grip, it fits nicely in my hands, and this is enhanced by the rubbery surface coating. The viewfinder is excellent and the data is super clear.

Focus on my Sigma 150mm is like lightning.

Shooting at dusk, I was still able to determine that my Sigma 150mm works perfectly... This camera has some serious resolution capability. That's what I'm partial to.

As to the buffer, shooting RAW, I think folks that need that capacity are going to be seriously disappointed. I'm counting 5 frames, and then the camera slows down...

With JPEG (highest quality/size) things get much better with a full 2 seconds of high speed shooting, before things start to slow. Figure 12 or so frames...

This is using the latest Sandisk 95MB/s cards.

Now, this is NOT a serious test, so when the reviews start appearing, nuanced perspectives will emerge as well.

Still, shooting RAW, short bursts are fine, but they'll have to be short. I didn't try the 1.3 crop mode on this.

The shutter feels exactly the same as the D7000. The locks on the mode dial are nice. The playback screen is great.

It feels like a light-weight brick. Well screwed together.

When I can post some serious images, I will.

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Jim Pearce

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#1. "Did you do all of the right things to max the buffer Bill?" | In response to Reply # 0

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Thu 14-Mar-13 11:27 PM | edited Thu 14-Mar-13 11:28 PM by Jim Pearce

Turn off auto-ISO, long exposure NR, auto D-lighting, etc.? Did you try 12 bit lossless? I'd be interested in buffer clearing times and fps after the buffer is full with 12 bit lossless with these cards. I have the cards, but alas no camera in sight as yet.

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cockers

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#2. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 0

cockers Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Thu 14-Mar-13 11:52 PM

Bill I agree about build - very stout feeling and grip for me is better than on the D7000.
I was focussing on a couple of my dogs playing in the house and it locks on very fast.
Not very scientific I know but as first impressions go this is a very well put together machine.

Probably nicest surprise is the brilliant monitor display - very huge improvement over the D300 and D300s.

Al

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billD80

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#3. "RE: Did you do all of the right things to max the buffer Bill?" | In response to Reply # 1

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Thu 14-Mar-13 11:52 PM

>Turn off auto-ISO, long exposure NR, auto D-lighting, etc.?
>Did you try 12 bit lossless? I'd be interested in buffer
>clearing times and fps after the buffer is full with 12 bit
>lossless with these cards. I have the cards, but alas no
>camera in sight as yet.

Set as you suggested, I'm hearing about 7 frames before things slow down.

Now, keeping in mind, we're talking a better AF system, at higher resolution. Does this mean more keepers per burst?

The AF feels VERY fast. Still, I don't think there's going to be any "a-ha" moment as it pertains to the buffer. It is what it is.

Perhaps at 1.3 mode, things change (and that may make sense, because you still get 15mp, and BIF would benefit from longer reach).

When the sun comes up, I plan to try some shots that will tell me if I've got what I need/want. I'm pretty sure I do.

Truth is, I never shot the D7000 in Ch mode for more than 4 or 5 shots...

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Brian_S

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Brian_S Registered since 28th Jan 2011
Fri 15-Mar-13 12:30 AM | edited Fri 15-Mar-13 12:32 AM by Brian_S

Al
did you get one of these also?
all the reviews i have seen so far from people picking up the 7100 seem to concour about its fast AF


never mind, just seen in another thread you did get one,

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 12:57 AM

Here are a few macros...

SB-200 using Commander Mode. Staright from the camera... No PP beyond View NX2 conversion.

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#6. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 0

martinjp Registered since 01st Mar 2013
Fri 15-Mar-13 01:45 AM | edited Fri 15-Mar-13 09:10 AM by martinjp

I really like the D7100. Much better high ISO than my D90.

I did a quick upload of pictures from today. I'll fill in details tomorrow. Time to go to bed.

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Jim:-)

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#7. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 5

jgreg Silver Member Charter Member
Fri 15-Mar-13 05:47 AM

These look great to me but my eyes are 65 years old now and not quite like they used to be. I think I'm going to like my new Nikon D7100 when it gets here from B&H. I don't think I will regret selling my old Nikon D7000 now. Please post more pictures when you get a chance. I guess Moose Peterson was right about this camera.

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billD80

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 10:13 AM

>These look great to me but my eyes are 65 years old now and
>not quite like they used to be. I think I'm going to like my
>new Nikon D7100 when it gets here from B&H.

I was rummaging around the house looking for something to photograph, so I used some money on the mantel... Sigma 150mm, hand-held, 1/60th, with flash in Commander mode.

Hopefully later today I can get some time to go outside to shoot.

But really, the D7000 is a great camera, and the D7100 looks to be every bit in that vein. It would be hard not to be.

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PaintedRays Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Oct 2011
Fri 15-Mar-13 11:04 AM

I wasn't able to get out with my D7100 but I was setting up the camera in my usual manner. What happened to "MY MENU"? I am dissapointed that instead of having "MY MENU", I find "RECENT SETTINGS". That means no longer can I program the function button to the top most item in My Menu. That doesn't have me jumping for joy. Every other body I've owned had that feature. I'm ready for a firmware update.

I'm heading out this morning at first light to look for some eagles.

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VR8

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VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Fri 15-Mar-13 12:03 PM | edited Fri 15-Mar-13 12:55 PM by VR8

The manual I am looking at has "my menu" and seems to have the same options as the D7000, there is an option of recent options. Please have another look thanks!


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#11. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 10

BrianNK Registered since 25th Feb 2013
Fri 15-Mar-13 12:37 PM | edited Fri 15-Mar-13 12:38 PM by BrianNK

I'll start the "things i don't like" list..

1) front sub-command dial. There is a larger 'lip' on the grip that makes getting to that dial..... different . It will probably make it harder to accidently turn, but its going to take some getting used to.

2) Cheap feeling main command dial on the back. It seems to be the exact dial used on the D600... i liked the D7000 one better.

3) Every time i go to format my cards i hit the frick'n move-record button and not the metering button (metering + delete button = quick format). I've done that about 10 times now.. still not getting used to having that record button there.

(Note: all are very minor.. and in the long run will probably be an advantage over the D7000 )

Things i like that haven't been mentioned...

The AE/AF-L button on the back is moved over the the right. If you use 'back button focusing' and make this button your AF-ON you no longer will have a finger in your eye when you shoot!!!!



billD80

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 04:28 PM | edited Fri 15-Mar-13 04:54 PM by billD80

The D7100 seems to expose similar to my D200. It manages to keep from blowing highlights, still retaining good shadow detail.

I think levels of sharpness will surely be related to the glass and the technique... This camera is capable of great detail.

The focus seems almost instantaneous.

Here's a grab shot (and a tight crop), Nikon 300 @ f4.5, hand-held, 1/640th (I believe) on a house down the street. No PP done, just conversion to JPEG and cropped. The sharpness setting is on the factory default.

Just an FYI, the cement detail is something I'd never seen with prior cameras.

The last image is a close crop on a subject where highlights could easily have been blown, and they're not...

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jgreg

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#13. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 12

jgreg Silver Member Charter Member
Fri 15-Mar-13 05:23 PM

B&H just sent me an email about that they just shipped my Nikon D7100 today. So I might have it on Wed or so. I can't wait because the pictures I have seen look as good as my Nikon D600 or better.

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billD80

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 05:32 PM

>B&H just sent me an email about that they just shipped my
>Nikon D7100 today. So I might have it on Wed or so. I can't
>wait because the pictures I have seen look as good as my Nikon
>D600 or better.

Here are a few more... original, then close crop.

These were done hand-held, from about 40 feet, with the 300/4 shot at 5.6, ISO 320, with factory settings on sharpening, no PP...

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#15. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 14

smh Registered since 21st Sep 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 06:04 PM

I, too, am impressed. I just ripped off a few with a 70-200 and a 16-85, all in the 1.3 crop mode. With minimal camera tweaking, I'm seeing really really good (for me) exposure and acuity.
Then I went to 1.5 mode, shoot some fine patterned mesh. Hmm I think I see a touch of moire. But the camera itself seems even more solid then the d7000, fits my hand better (small hands) and I think Nikon nailed the ergonomics.

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francine Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Jun 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 07:56 PM

I am thinking of getting this camera to replace my D90, which i love. I have gotten into birds and want to know about the 1/3 crop. will the picture come out better when you use that in camera than cropping on the computer.

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Fri 15-Mar-13 08:02 PM

>I am thinking of getting this camera to replace my D90, which
>i love. I have gotten into birds and want to know about the
>1/3 crop. will the picture come out better when you use that
>in camera than cropping on the computer.

My hunch is, using the 1.3 crop mode enables the camera to shoot and store more FPS because the files are smaller...

BUT, if FPS wasn't on the table, and we were just comparing 1 cropped DX frame with 1 in-camera 1.3 frame, well, that's a great question...

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#18. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 10

PaintedRays Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Oct 2011
Sat 16-Mar-13 01:52 AM

Victor, You are correct. My camera came with Recent Settings as the default option, but there is a "Choose Tab" which toggles it to "My Menu". Thanks for the heads up. I didn't take the time to open the book. Now that I've loaded the manual to my iPad, I'll be digging into it further.

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PaintedRays Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Oct 2011
Sat 16-Mar-13 12:06 PM

I have to say, I am really going to enjoy having the "i" button. It provides very quick access to many of the menu items which can all be seen in one view. I can toggle through;

DX or 1.3x Crop Image area
High ISO NR
Active D Lighting
in camera HDR
Assign Preview button
Assign Fn button
Assign AE/AF button
Picture Control
Long Exposure NR
Remote Mode functions

Kudos to Nikon for this feature. Access to more features than I'll use, but many I like. On my D90 I always assigned the Fn button for Commander mode, but with the D600, I use Virtual Horizon. Now I can easily go back and forth without diving into the menu system.

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VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sat 16-Mar-13 12:25 PM | edited Sat 16-Mar-13 12:25 PM by VR8

Curious to know, as the manual is unclear, if the magnification preview is the one press d300 style or the multi-press d700 style.

Thanks

Victor

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#21. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 20

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Sat 16-Mar-13 12:43 PM

Check the custom settings options for the OK button > Playback Mode on page 252.

“Toggl between full frame of thumbnail...
Choose initial zoom setting ... Low, Medium or High Magnification…
Zoom will center on active focus point..."


If it is like other bodies Medium Zoom should represent 100% (1 pixel in the image is displayed by 1 screen pixel) view.

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#22. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 20

jeffcs Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Sat 16-Mar-13 12:56 PM

I haven't made my mind up as yet
Several things I am wondering about
On all of my other Nikons I can turn on the "grid lines" in the view finder does the d7100 have feature
Also I do architectural
photography is why I'm asking about grid lines
And because I also shoot interiors I use HDR does any one find that 5 exposures are sufficient as I generally bracket 7 with a 1 stop difference
Thanks and as time and comments continue we will all learn more

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billD80

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Sat 16-Mar-13 01:14 PM

>I haven't made my mind up as yet
>Several things I am wondering about
>On all of my other Nikons I can turn on the "grid
>lines" in the view finder does the d7100 have feature
>Also I do architectural
> photography is why I'm asking about grid lines
>And because I also shoot interiors I use HDR does any one find
>that 5 exposures are sufficient as I generally bracket 7 with
>a 1 stop difference
> Thanks and as time and comments continue we will all learn
>more

Yes, the grid feature is there.

For HDR, I use 3 exposures, with extra care on the high or low side, depending on the scene. Here are two done this way, converted from RAW to JPEG, then imported into PhotoMatix:

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#24. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 23

jeffcs Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Sat 16-Mar-13 01:31 PM

Thanks
Looks like I'm going for the D7100 body
Any concerns wih moire with out the AA filter on the sensor
Photos look nice and crisp
What lens are you using
For exterior I am using the 24PC and the 14 inside
Again thanks

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Sat 16-Mar-13 01:49 PM | edited Sat 16-Mar-13 01:51 PM by billD80

>Thanks
>Looks like I'm going for the D7100 body
>Any concerns wih moire with out the AA filter on the sensor
>Photos look nice and crisp
>What lens are you using
>For exterior I am using the 24PC and the 14 inside
>Again thanks
>
>
The shots were done on a D7000. I'm not concerned about moire.

On these images I used a Sigma 8-16mm top one at 9.5mm and the church intereior at 8mm.

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#26. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 21

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sat 16-Mar-13 03:48 PM


Thanks. Good news. Guess I missed this in my reading

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cockers Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Sat 16-Mar-13 06:57 PM

Here's my first bird image out of D7100. (Large Fine jpeg) Subject is not as close as I'd like (approx. 35 feet) this is about a 35% crop of original. However after crop, still left a 5mb file.
Shot without enhancements, no in camera sharpening etc.

Al

Nikon D7100, Aperture Priority, ISO 1000, 0EV, 1/640 sec., Nikkor 500P @f11, Induro AT413 tripod and BHD3 ball head.

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Sat 16-Mar-13 07:01 PM

Wow! Look at the detail in the area below the beak. Great color too.

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cockers Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Sat 16-Mar-13 07:23 PM

Yeah - it's probably the equivalent of shooting a quarter at that distance! Could have been better possibly with AF 500mm.

Al

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Sat 16-Mar-13 08:41 PM

Nice work Bill!

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#31. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 30

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Sat 16-Mar-13 08:55 PM

>Nice work Bill!

Thanks Dave!

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#32. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 27

PaintedRays Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Oct 2011
Sun 17-Mar-13 02:56 PM | edited Sun 17-Mar-13 03:00 PM by PaintedRays

Al,

Beautiful subject and light, great sharpness, detail and exposure. If this is at home, I'd snap off those 2 twigs.

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#33. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 16

PaintedRays Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Oct 2011
Sun 17-Mar-13 02:59 PM

>will the picture come out better when you use that
>in camera than cropping on the computer.

Not sure if you'll get better results at DX, but I suspect you're correct. I'll have to test. But having the AF sensors fill the frame may be a benefit. Although the viewfinder still shows the DX frame, the 1.3x gives you a guide for the frame like a point and shoot. (I assume more accuracy, tho)

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#34. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 29

Morty E Registered since 12th Dec 2006
Sun 17-Mar-13 03:01 PM

The quality of the pics from this camera is quite impressive. Glad I have mine on preorder. Not released in Canada for another week. Obviously, I am watching the first impressions with great interest. However, I have not seen any comments about the quality of glass on the back screen. Nikon obviously felt a cover was not necessary for this camera. I don't have a protector for my iPad or BBerry. Wondering if it is similar quality glass.

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#35. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 34

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Sun 17-Mar-13 03:50 PM

Nikon obviously
>felt a cover was not necessary for this camera. I don't have a
>protector for my iPad or BBerry. Wondering if it is similar
>quality glass.
>

Nikon would be daft to put something less than Gorilla style glass on a camera they leave unprotected. So, I'm with you. I think they didn't believe a cover would be necessary given the sturdy character of what's installed.

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cockers Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Sun 17-Mar-13 07:41 PM

Thanks Bryan - this was taken in the woods behind my cabin . . .I doubt I'll be in that exact spot again.

Al

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#37. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 36

jonmcguffin Registered since 16th Mar 2013
Sun 17-Mar-13 09:31 PM

It's a nice shot Al and very encouraging from this camera.

In your experience is the AF performance all it's cracked up to be in terms of response and speed?

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#38. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 37

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Sun 17-Mar-13 09:55 PM

I got my D7100 Friday
Yesterday those Mercury or Sodium vapor lights did their trick.
I had the usual problems.
The D600 with Automatic WB handled it better even with the inferior? (39pt CAM4800) AF and Metering.
My best D7100 photos were with Portrait settings + more sharpening.
The 1/3 crop mode works really well.
With such limited use, I would say the D7100 is best for telescopic stills (espcially birds).
I will continue to use my D600 and D800 for Landscapes and anything wide.

Today I shot my first indoor Church Videos.
Again I had some trouble with white ballance.
This time under florescent lights.
The FullTime AutoFocus works but unless you want to edit out all the focusing, turn it off.
I was surprised to see all the info moved over to my external monitor.
The D800 leaves it on the LCD.
Next week I will test the "clean" HDMI out when I get my HyperDeck recorder back.


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#39. "RE: D7100 first thoughts - New Review" | In response to Reply # 2

Tobias561 Registered since 16th Feb 2013
Mon 18-Mar-13 05:53 PM

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jgreg

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#40. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 27

jgreg Silver Member Charter Member
Tue 19-Mar-13 05:23 AM

>Here's my first bird image out of D7100. (Large Fine jpeg)
>Subject is not as close as I'd like (approx. 35 feet) this is
>about a 35% crop of original. However after crop, still left a
>5mb file.
>Shot without enhancements, no in camera sharpening etc.
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>Al
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>Nikon D7100, Aperture Priority, ISO 1000, 0EV, 1/640 sec.,
>Nikkor 500P @f11, Induro AT413 tripod and BHD3 ball head.
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This bird looks very good. I checked UPS and now my Nikon D 7100 will be here on Tuesday instead of Wed. So I can't wait for that. Has anybody used a Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 VC?

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billD80

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#41. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 40

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Tue 19-Mar-13 10:22 AM

>This bird looks very good. I checked UPS and now my Nikon D
>7100 will be here on Tuesday instead of Wed. So I can't wait
>for that. Has anybody used a Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 VC?
>

If you check this thread, you'll see a shot done with the original version of that Tamron lens: https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=329&topic_id=25359&mesg_id=25359&page=

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jgreg

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#42. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 41

jgreg Silver Member Charter Member
Tue 19-Mar-13 01:40 PM

Thanks I was looking for the VC version of the lens. I had this version and liked it. I thought I read some where that the VC version was not as sharp but I might be wrong. Just trying to find out.

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Jim Pearce

Grimsby, CA
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#43. "Definitely not as sharp..." | In response to Reply # 42

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Tue 19-Mar-13 01:58 PM

I haven't used it - I have the old screwdriver - but dxomark and Photozone have tested both. Apparently the Sigma 17-50 OS is sharper, but there are some reports of Sigma OS lenses not working properly with the D7100.

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billD80

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#44. "RE: Definitely not as sharp..." | In response to Reply # 43

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Tue 19-Mar-13 02:21 PM

but there are some reports of Sigma OS lenses not
>working properly with the D7100.

The only report I heard of this came via KR and I'm sure he was referring to the D7000 (which DID have LiveView compatibility with some Sigma lenses).

I'll run a ckeck later on, as I have a few Sigmas... They all work fine using the viewfinder, and they all focus fast ad dead-on, but I'll see about the LiveView.

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Jim Pearce

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#45. "Don't shoot the messenger Bill!" | In response to Reply # 44

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Tue 19-Mar-13 02:31 PM

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51100160

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billD80

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#46. "RE: Don't shoot the messenger Bill!" | In response to Reply # 45

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Tue 19-Mar-13 03:10 PM | edited Tue 19-Mar-13 03:18 PM by billD80

>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51100160

I read through, are those AF issues, or something else going on?

The OP on that thread seems to want the D7100 to do what the D7000, and my D200 and D80 never did, with any brand of lenses. It sounds like he's zooming in on an image and trying to rotate the back controller to "sweep" around viewing the image, as opposed to pressing the controller in the direction you want the viewing area to go (which is what he's saying he has to do).

Unless I'm misreading him (which could be), this is normal behavior.

I did test my Sigmas and Tamrons as posted on a new thread, and they're fine (AF/LiveView wise). Perhaps there IS some other compatibility thing that will emerge (though it may be in a feature I never use).

One thing though, the OP on the DPR forum also writes this... "Other than that, the D7100 seems fine. Yes, it's grainy and noisy but also very sharp."

Grainy and noisy? Yeah, I don't think so...

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cockers

Plover, US
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#47. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 0

cockers Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Tue 19-Mar-13 05:29 PM

Like the high ISO capability - took this on 3-17-13. More in the Astrophotography forum.

Al

Nikon D7100, Tokina 12-24, ISO 1600, f 4.0, 12sec. Bogen 3221 Tripod and 3way head.



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Jim Pearce

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#48. "Oh oh..." | In response to Reply # 46

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Tue 19-Mar-13 05:53 PM

You're not BillD7000 are you? Anyway, no - what he's saying is that by holding the wheel down it should continue to move in one direction. I'm not familiar with the D7000 so I can't comment.

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billD80

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#49. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 47

billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007
Tue 19-Mar-13 06:24 PM

>Like the high ISO capability - took this on 3-17-13. More in
>the Astrophotography forum.
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What a beautiful image. That's just so pretty.

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jonmcguffin

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#50. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 49

jonmcguffin Registered since 16th Mar 2013
Tue 19-Mar-13 10:50 PM | edited Tue 19-Mar-13 10:53 PM by jonmcguffin

So I received my D7100 today and the first thing I did was compare it to the D7000 by running some noise tests. I tried to make it as reasonable apples to apples as I could.

Set both cameras to the following:

JPG Compression = Fine
JPG Quality = Optimized for Quality
High ISO NR = Normal
Active D-Lighting = Off
Picture Control = Neutral
Colorspace = sRGB

Shot the same subject at ISO 6400, 3200, 1600, & 800 (changed just the shutter speed to match exposure).

Used a tripod, and shot with my Sigma 35mm 1.4 (so I know it's sharp). I have the files to share but don't quite know the best way for me to share them as I can't post them in this forum without an upgraded account.

I'm not seeing any real discernible difference between the two files. I'm looking at them before and after re-sizing the D7100 to match the D7000 16Mb resolution. I can't tell them a part to be frank. The difference would be so minutely small that nobody could possible care and I couldn't say which is actually better than the other.

jonmcguffin

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#51. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 50

jonmcguffin Registered since 16th Mar 2013
Tue 19-Mar-13 11:26 PM

On the flip side of ISO performance being somewhat negligible for me at this point..

The LCD screen on the back is magnificently better. A true difference, the menu system is better (clearer too).

Definitely feels better in the hand than the D7000 but it's not a huge difference.

Love the focus points to the edge...

I'm loving this camera thus far...

VR8

Ottawa, CA
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#52. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 21

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Thu 21-Mar-13 04:31 PM

Just got the camera and am setting it up. The okay button does control magnification but at medium its pixel peeping at what I would guess is 200%! and high is unbelievable. Chose the low setting.


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wlwakefield

Irving, US
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#53. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 51

wlwakefield Registered since 21st Jan 2007
Fri 22-Mar-13 05:22 PM

Just got through charging after unboxing... MAN! I can't even compare this to my old D80...

The PQ and ISO are so much better, and the video quality is off the charts!

Just waiting on my blackrapid and battery grip to arrive tomorrow...

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ORTHOZAC

ZACATECAS, MX
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#54. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." | In response to Reply # 47

ORTHOZAC Registered since 02nd Sep 2009
Sun 24-Mar-13 01:12 AM

I was blown away by your frame... I think that you even caught a shooting star right in the middle of your image... I am receiving mine next Monday... can´t wait... Regards... Joseph!

Push the bottom Max! Jack Lemon to Peter Faulk on the film "The great race" and a landmark phrase among photography lovers...

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mjhach

Simcoe, CA
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#55. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 10

mjhach Gold Member Nikonian since 17th Dec 2010
Sun 24-Mar-13 01:02 PM

I see you have quite the shroud over your flash unit in your ID picture. What drove you to purchase such a diffusion unit and how does it compare to the dome supplied with the SB-XXX flashes?

I have a couple of umbrellas for diffusing shadows.

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VR8

Ottawa, CA
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#56. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 55

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sun 24-Mar-13 01:18 PM


I get asked this a lot. Its a Lastolite ezybox for hotshoes 8.5x8.5". Its double diffused. I use it for macro, nice soft wrapping light. Its a bit large and can get in the way but its a marvel. Umbrellas would be too large for my use here, though I have them. The Sb diffusers even stuffed with diffusing material do not come close.

I saw John MacNally use it and he used it for a full length portrait! After watching him go through dozens of lighting solutions this one suited me. I am hoping to get a solution be better able to articulate in front of the camera. If it works I will post it in the Macro discussions.

Like I say most people find it unwieldy but I like it. I hope Lastolite comes up with a double diffused solution that is smalle

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mjhach

Simcoe, CA
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#57. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." | In response to Reply # 56

mjhach Gold Member Nikonian since 17th Dec 2010
Sun 24-Mar-13 01:44 PM

OK. Thanks.

Mike

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