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Lens compatibility question

Newondigital

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Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Sat 10-Nov-12 09:41 PM | edited Sun 11-Nov-12 04:34 AM by dm1dave

I am new to Nikonians and I don't know where to post a question related to this situation:
I have a Micro-Nikkor-P Auto 55mm f 3.5 that I used on my old F2. Is there any reason that I can not use this lens on my D7000? If it help, the lens number is 683838. Will greatly appreciate any light on the safe (or non safe) use of this lens on the D7000.

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#1. "RE: Does the D7000 need Auto focus lens?" | In response to Reply # 0

JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006
Sun 11-Nov-12 02:04 AM | edited Sun 11-Nov-12 04:36 AM by JosephK

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Newondigital

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#2. "RE: Does the D7000 need Auto focus lens?" | In response to Reply # 1

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Sun 11-Nov-12 05:24 AM

Thanks for posting my question at the right place.
Now I only need a comment or comments to clear my doubt.

dm1dave

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#4. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 0

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Sun 11-Nov-12 03:11 PM

Welcome to Nikonians Carlos!

I don’t know much about that lens so I have contacted another moderator who I think may be able to help. Hopefully he (or someone else) will get you an answer soon.

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Newondigital

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#5. "Micro-Nikkor-P Auto 55 f.3.5" | In response to Reply # 4

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Sun 11-Nov-12 05:46 PM

I will sit and wait and so will the lens.
Thank You.

Newondigital

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#6. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 4

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Sun 11-Nov-12 05:53 PM

In a direct mail note I was told that blw, briantilley or MeMcd could shed good light on the subject.

Thanks again.

C.A.Genie

Leonard62

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#7. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 0

Leonard62 Gold Member Awarded for excellent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community, especially of Nikkor Lenses Writer Ribbon awarded for his contributions to the Nikonians Resources articles library Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009
Sun 11-Nov-12 06:46 PM | edited Sun 11-Nov-12 06:48 PM by Leonard62

The 55mm f3.5 micro P is a non-AI lens. Unless it has been modified to AI standards it will damage your D7000. Is the bottom of the lens tube around the chrome mount smooth all around or are there steps in it? If it's smooth it's non-AI and you can't use it.

Check out www.aiconversions.com

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Newondigital

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#8. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 7

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Sun 11-Nov-12 09:37 PM

Thanks for your reply.
I would check on it. However and regardless I would be very skeptical on the use of my Micro-Nikkor-P Auto 55mm on my D7000.

I have a 55-200 AFS DX VR f 4-5.6 and a 35mm AFS DX f 1.8G
What lens would you suggest for landscapes and which other for Macro Photo of insects and flowers? I am a "non-for-profit" photographer reentering on the digital arena.
On the film age, I used de 55mm noted above on my F2 for very close macro shots. I believe that now there should be better alternatives. I do not plan to step up in cameras until a long time from now. D7000 has plenty for me to grow.

C. A. Genie

Leonard62

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#9. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 8

Leonard62 Gold Member Awarded for excellent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community, especially of Nikkor Lenses Writer Ribbon awarded for his contributions to the Nikonians Resources articles library Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009
Sun 11-Nov-12 10:41 PM | edited Sun 11-Nov-12 10:47 PM by Leonard62

Nikon makes quite a few macro lenses in different focal lengths from 40mm to 60mm to 85mm to 105mm and 200mm. They are all autofocus lenses and will work just fine on your D7000. All of them will allow you to get to 1:1 magnification while your 55mm will only get to 1:2 without an extension tube. The Tamron 90mm macro is also a very good lens and highly thought of by many of the members here. My personal preference is the 105mm macro lens which gives you a comfortable working distance. However for most tight closeups you'll probably be using the lens in manual focus mode anyway. I prefer my manual focus AIS 105mm f4 macro lens which goes to 1:2 and 1:1 with the PN11 extension tube which has a built in tripod mount. For taking macro photos in the field I carry the Nikon AF 105mm f2.8D. I might be upgrading to the AFS 105mm f2.8G VR lens in the future.

For landscape type photos I prefer wide angle lenses between 16mm and 35mm. My favorite is the AFS 24mm f1.4 lens but it's pretty expensive and I wouldn't recommend getting it until you know what your favorite focal length is. I would recommend getting the little AFS 18-55mm VR lens and start shooting with it. It's quite inexpensive but a very good performer. You can always upgrade later. It covers a nice range for my landscape photos.

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Leonard62

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#10. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 9

Leonard62 Gold Member Awarded for excellent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community, especially of Nikkor Lenses Writer Ribbon awarded for his contributions to the Nikonians Resources articles library Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009
Mon 12-Nov-12 12:07 AM

There is another option though. You can use your 55mm f3.5 P lens on your D7000 if you get it AI converted from someone like John White at the link I posted. The optical performance will be excellent. All you do after the lens is AI'd is mount it on your D7000 and enter the lens focal length and max aperture in the non-CPU lens data option in the Setup Menu. Your D7000 will then meter with the lens and you manual focus like you always did.

Here is a photo showing my 55mm f3.5 micro P lens which has the Nikon factory conversion on the left and the older 55mm f3.5 micro on the right that has not been AI converted. Note the AI step on the lens on the left just below the f22 aperture marking on the bottom aperture row. All Nikon did was replace the aperture ring with one with the AI steps. Also note the overhang of the bottom of the aperture ring on the lens on the right. This is what gets machined when it's modified to be AI compatible. This overhang, if not machined, is what can damage the little AI lever around the lens mount on the D7000.

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Nikon introduced the AI lens mount in 1977-78 and offered to convert your non-AI lens for $20 plus shipping. That service was ended many years ago but John White can machine your lens to the AI standard and you can use it on your D7000. If you still have your F2 it will still work fine after the conversion.

Len


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MEMcD

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#11. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 6

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Mon 12-Nov-12 02:20 AM | edited Mon 12-Nov-12 02:24 AM by MEMcD

Hi Carlos,

Welcome to Nikonians!
It has been correctly stated that the Nikkor 55mm f/3.5 P is a Pre-AI lens that must be modified to AI spec in order to be safely mounted on your D7000.
It has a 1:2 reproduction ratio alone or a 1:1 reproduction ratio with the M1 or M2 extension ring.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

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#12. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 11

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 02:58 AM

Thanks for your reply.

Since I live outside of the USA, just sending the lens for modification and receiving it later through a trusted shipper will most possible consume a very high % the dollar amount of a new lens. Such was the reason why I will let the 55mm remain faithful to my F2 till age part with them because film will probably never see again.

Also, that was the reason I asked for suggestions on a landscape lens and/or a Macro lens for the D7000. I mentioned the lenses I have now, just bought them two months ago with the camera. I am satisfied with both of my lenses but, on a recent trip I made to Madrid, I felt the need of a wider angled lens for landscape, but since I feel I have a long road to go to recoup my learning I had with the F2, I would like to concentrate on as few lenses as possible so I can spend time on taking photos instead of using the time to blaming it on the lens for not doing its work. I admire people who takes beautiful photos for their own joy with a D3100 or a T3.

So I will greatly appreciate if I am help to avoid mistakes in overreaching so I can concentrate on what I like....taking pictures...stoping time on its track.

C. A. Genie

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#13. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 9

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Wed 14-Nov-12 03:58 AM

If I buy the AFS 18-55 VR would it be like a necessary upgrade to go to AFS 16-85 DX VR to better match the D7000 ? Is the 16-85 a more versatile lens like for portraits? If an upgrade should be expected, would it not be better to invest $ 659.00 now instead $ 199.00 and then the $ 659.00 ? Considering the lens I have now, AFS DX VR 55-200 F 4-5.6 and AFS DX 35 f1.8G would the 18-55 be the most useful complement? Please feel free to suggest within the alternatives now being considered and out of them also.

Will greatly appreciate suggestions

mklass

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#14. "RE: Lens compatibility question" | In response to Reply # 13

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Wed 14-Nov-12 09:45 AM | edited Thu 15-Nov-12 02:02 AM by mklass

Carlos,

The 16-85 is a very good lens, and if you can afford it, I would suggest getting that right up front. If you were to get the 18-55 now, and want to upgrade later, I don't think you will get much out of selling or trading in the 18-55.

If you want to go wider, you could keep your existing lenses and add a super wide 10-24 or 12-24 Nikkor, Sigma 10-20 or 8-16 or Tamron 11-16.

That said, it all depends on your budget and what other items you may want.

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#15. "55 mm Micro-Nikkor P comparison." | In response to Reply # 10

Newondigital Registered since 10th Nov 2012
Thu 15-Nov-12 01:43 AM

I have my 55 in front of me now. Even if the grid in the focusing ring looks like the lens you have on the left, the latch is placed in the direction like the one on the right and it does not have the step the converted lens on the left shows in line with the 22 aperture. Also, it does not have the band with number indicators 3.5 to 32 that the converted lens has below the latch. So the indication tells me that my 55 would need modification.

I appreciate your kind help on this matter.

C.A. Genie

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