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d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000

photoman4474


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photoman4474 Registered since 02nd Mar 2007
Mon 24-Sep-12 07:29 PM | edited Tue 25-Sep-12 12:17 AM by photoman4474

I have had some troubel with my new D7000 spots on senser hot pixels sent it back for the second time and still fell like my photos are #### take a look and see what you think

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#1. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Mon 24-Sep-12 05:32 PM

Welcome to Nikonians Tim.

I'd be more than happy to look, but where?

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#2. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Mon 24-Sep-12 06:22 PM

It's near impossible to spot hot pixels with a greatly-reduced image.

I see lots of spots....... water spots, however.

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#3. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Mon 24-Sep-12 07:39 PM

Welcome to Nikonians, Tim!

That looks like a pretty nice shot to me - but if we're meant to be looking for sensor dust or hot pixels it's not really possible to judge. Do you have another example, of a more plain subject?

By the way - you'll notice that your post activated our automatic filter - that's because we discourage "bad language" in our Community.

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#4. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

aolander Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2006
Mon 24-Sep-12 08:11 PM

How could we ever pick out hot pixels or dust spots with all the water droplets in the image?

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#5. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 4

J_Harris Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Awarded for his contribution to the Nikonians Articles section Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011
Mon 24-Sep-12 08:28 PM | edited Mon 24-Sep-12 08:29 PM by J_Harris


I can't see any dust spots either, but is that a hot pixel in the viewers upper-right corner?

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Gamecocks Registered since 22nd Jul 2010
Mon 24-Sep-12 09:03 PM

I,too, believe the upper third rt corner may be a hot pixel (yellow). Otherwise, looks like a good action shot.

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#7. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 6

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Mon 24-Sep-12 09:48 PM | edited Mon 24-Sep-12 09:49 PM by four eighty sparky

If the yellow is a hot pixel, it's a damn big one. Even in this 1,200px × 794px reduced image, the yellow measures roughly 8 x 10 pixels.

If the original was shot at 4,928 x 3,264 that would mean the yellow spot measures about 32 x 40 pixels.

Seems unlikely there would be 1200+ 'dead' pixels all clustered together.... producing the same color. I'd say it's just debris in the water and it's OOF.

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006
Mon 24-Sep-12 10:02 PM

Not sure what that is but it is not a hot pixel. It is too big and not quite the right shape. It looks like it is some sort of reflection.

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#9. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006
Mon 24-Sep-12 10:12 PM

Like the others I see no obvious evidence of hot pixels or any other sensor problem.

As a wildlife photographer I have to say that this a really good action shot. You did a great job holding focus with all of the splashing water and the fast moving bird. Especilly at 800mm on a DX body. What lens were you shootin?

What is it about this shot that makes you think it is bad?

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#10. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

aolander Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2006
Mon 24-Sep-12 10:49 PM

The yellow spot appears to be another water droplet, and I think it is colored by the greenish color of the water behind it.

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#11. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

cwils02 Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2012
Mon 24-Sep-12 10:55 PM

Why not shoot at a completely blue sky in the evening at f22, and post it on here. It should be light enough to shoot at about 1/125th.

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#12. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 9

dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006
Tue 25-Sep-12 04:07 AM | edited Tue 25-Sep-12 03:45 PM by dm1dave

>>> “...take a look and see what you think.”

Aside from my first post I want to give you may take, as a wildlife photographer, on the quality of this image.

First as I said above I think this is a really good action shot. I would be very satisfied to have this as part of my wildlife image catalog. That said it is not what I would consider a “wall hanger.” I would not print it on fine art paper or offer it for sale or enter it in any contest. But it is a keeper for sure. I would consider it for use in a calendar or an illustration for a book or an article.

focus & Sharpness

I mentioned in my other post that the focus was quite good. This is a difficult focus problem for any photographer with any camera. You and your D7000 did a great job. The body, head, eye, beak and legs of the bird are quite sharp.

Some people (almost always other photographers) will not like the blurred wings. They want to see every detail of every feather every time. I do not see it that way at all. The wing blur is an essential element in this image. Tack sharp wings in this shot would look unnatural.

The blur gives the viewer the sense of motion and speed. The splashing water, with in-focus and out-of-focus droplets bring a sense of chaos in this slit second that is frozen in time.

“Framing / Composition”

This is one that you may be able to work on. How much is this image cropped?

We have this nice looking bird with a great wing position that the viewer knows is speeding across the frame from left to right. But wait a minute, he is about to hit the edge of the frame, he has no place to fly to. Our eye naturally wants to look ahead of the bird to get a feeling for where it is going. Our eye is drawn out of the image if there is no room in front of the moving subject. I would try to have about a third of the image width in front of the bird to give the viewer room to look ahead.

Also at the top of the frame the wing tip is kind of close to the edge of the frame. This makes the viewer feel cramped and makes it harder for the eye to follow the composition without being drawn to the strait line created by the edge of the frame.

Beginning wildlife photographers tend to try to completely fill the fame with the subject. We soon learn that capturing every last finite detail is not what makes a great wildlife image. Like any other art form the overall composition is always more important than uber sharpness and detail.

“Lighting”

This image was captured in mid-afternoon (3:25 Pm) on a very bright (ISO-640 | f/10 | 1/3200s) sunny day. That creates some pretty harsh light. The same image shot two hours later or with sunlight filtered by high thin clouds and you can move from really good shot to great shot just from the improved light.

Both you and the D7000 did a great job with a very difficult metering situation. A white bird with black markings (and eyes) against a dark background in the harsh mid-day light is hard on any metering system. Great work!

Sometimes you can use post processing to compensate for the harsh light. I would probably darken the water a little bit. Then I would work on the bird and try to bring out the eye a bit.

As amateur wildlife photographers we often have little control of the lighting or time of day that our subjects are available. The big name pros spend a lot more time planning shoots and the they are out in the field for days or weeks at a time in ordern to get sll of those stunning images we all want. Amateurs with day jobs often have to take what they can get. We dont have nearly as many oppertunities to get thos great images in perfect light. The more we get out to shoot the more likley that we will find those great shooting conditions and coopertive subjects at the same time.

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J_Harris Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Awarded for his contribution to the Nikonians Articles section Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011
Tue 25-Sep-12 10:16 AM


Excellent critique, Dave. I learned a lot by reading it.

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km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Wed 26-Sep-12 05:58 AM

It is obvious from the many comments that no one is sure what you are referring to when you say the images are poor. Can you describe what you find so unacceptable in how the camera responded to the conditions?
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J_Harris Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Awarded for his contribution to the Nikonians Articles section Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011
Wed 26-Sep-12 10:14 AM

It sure is strange there has been no response from the original poster. Maybe he is a mole/infiltrator working for Canon, Inc. trying to cause discontent with our D7000s.

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#16. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 15

PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009
Wed 26-Sep-12 10:25 AM

Looks like a pretty good picture to me.

I notice in the EXIF the focal length was 800mm (1200mm equivalent). the lens is listed as a 300-800mm F5.6. I would guess a Sigma?

In any case, I guess we need to hear back from the OP. That post was his or her very first on Nikonians.

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#17. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 15

kentak Silver Member Nikonian since 03rd Jul 2010
Wed 26-Sep-12 12:06 PM

>It sure is strange there has been no response from the
>original poster. Maybe he is a mole/infiltrator working for
>Canon, Inc. trying to cause discontent with our D7000s.
>

I don't think so. He has a Flickr account under the same username. Many of the bird and others nature images are taken with the D7000. They are fantastic, IMO. Check them out.

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#18. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 17

dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006
Wed 26-Sep-12 02:21 PM | edited Wed 26-Sep-12 02:37 PM by dm1dave

I agree. Tim is a Silver member at Nikonians. People who come to make trouble tend to use free accounts.

Looking at his Fickr account and his Zenfolio galleries it is clear that Tim is a talented wildlife photographer.

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#19. "RE: d7000 help I fell like my photos are #### with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 18

RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011
Wed 26-Sep-12 03:02 PM


>
>Looking at his Fickr account and his Zenfolio galleries it is
>clear that Tim is a talented wildlife photographer.
>

With apparently very high standards. I keep looking at the image he's not happy about, and wishing that I could make images that good.

G