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Disappointed with the D7000

Caroleen

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Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sat 22-Sep-12 10:53 PM

Wandering if someone can help me. I took a trip to the beach and it was an absolutely gorgeous day, took many, many pictures and when they were put on the computer they were just BLAH!!!! They were not absolutely saturated with color like what my eyes were seeing.

I changed the white balance to different settings and then the picture quality to Vivid. Nothing seemed to bring out the pictures and made them POP! What am I doing wrong?

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#1. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Sat 22-Sep-12 08:58 PM | edited Sat 22-Sep-12 08:59 PM by elec164

Hard to say without an example image with the EXIF data intact. Also include a discription of the setup.

Could be a number of different reasons.

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#2. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sat 22-Sep-12 09:24 PM

How do you change your image to the right size?

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#3. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

Rassie Gold Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006
Sat 22-Sep-12 09:46 PM

What photo editing program do you use?

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#4. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 3

Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sat 22-Sep-12 11:43 PM

Currently I have Picasa

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#5. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

le gamin Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2012
Sun 23-Sep-12 12:13 AM

Hi Caroleen,

I clicked on the link to your gallery but did not see any pictures.

I'd like to see some before commenting.

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#6. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 4

luckyphoto Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010
Sun 23-Sep-12 12:24 AM

Hi Caroleen,
First, here are instructions on how to change the resolution when exporting from Picasa.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5284750_change-photo-sizes-picasa.html

Did you shoot RAW or JPEG? A sample photo with the EXIF information will provide a lot of information that can help determine the cause.

Were you shooting in Manual, Aperture, Shutter, Programmed or Auto mode? If Manual, what ISO, aperture and shutter speed were you using?

The most likely reason was your configuration. I've captured several thousand images with the D7000 and if I don't overexpose and blow out the highlights, I can easily get mine to "pop" with plenty of contrast and color saturation.

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#7. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sun 23-Sep-12 01:27 AM | edited Sun 23-Sep-12 01:28 AM by Caroleen

This was taken with a Nikon D7000, f10, 1/250, ISO 250








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#8. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

Rassie Gold Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006
Sun 23-Sep-12 02:16 AM | edited Sun 23-Sep-12 02:24 AM by Rassie

I adjusted your picture just a bit in terms of exposure, brightness, contrast, colour saturation to make it pop a bit more.

Since I always shoot raw I don't bother too much with how the pictures come out of the camera, knowing I'm going to have to edit them anyway. If you don't want to edit them, you'll have to experiment with camera settings until you find a combination that works well for you.

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#9. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 7

IanCT Registered since 15th Sep 2008
Sun 23-Sep-12 03:50 AM

Remember that if you shoot in RAW, any in-camera picture settings such as boosted saturation, sharpness, etc... are not honored by Picasa, Lightroom, etc... Only Nikon's software (CaptureNX) keeps this data.

I use Lightroom, and usually 100% of the time I'm increasing overall saturation to about 20 or 30 on the slider, and clarity to about 10. And this is on the D7000 as well as my D300s.

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Caroleen

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Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sun 23-Sep-12 11:04 AM

YES - now that POPs. I like it. Is there a way to get your camera settings for it to look that way right out of the camera?

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#11. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 7

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Sun 23-Sep-12 11:42 AM | edited Sun 23-Sep-12 11:45 AM by four eighty sparky

>This was taken with a Nikon D7000, f10, 1/250, ISO 250
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The first thing I see is the dynamic range of the scene does not extend to what the D7000 recorded. Bring the black point up to 38 and the white point down to 249.

Then put a slight S into the curve, bump up the saturation...... and you're golden.

I added a high-pass focus as well.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/TPF%20edits/232723_zps0c352b59.jpg

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#12. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 11

Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Sun 23-Sep-12 01:03 PM

Wow - you're a little over my head by bringing up the black point and the white point. I'm not that far along yet. You did a great job with the picture though, thank you.

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#13. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 10

RSchussel Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Nov 2008
Sun 23-Sep-12 03:05 PM

You can use the vivid setting and increase sharpness internally. However to get good pictures constantly you should shot in RAW and then use a Post Processing program like Photoshop or NX2.

I think your expectation of having great shots out of the camera are unrealistic in many situations. The advantage of digital camera is that you can make adjustments that only the best custom film labs could even come close to.

Bob

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JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006
Sun 23-Sep-12 03:11 PM

If you are shooting JPG, try the vivid setting to start with. Basically you are looking to increase the saturation and contrast and sharpness settings. How much you increase them will be personal taste.

If you are shooting NEF, only Nikon's software will honor the above settings. All third-party NEF readers will require you to adjust them the settings manually, but most will allow you to save the settings as a starting point.

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#15. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 12

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Sun 23-Sep-12 06:37 PM

>Wow - you're a little over my head by bringing up the black
>point and the white point. I'm not that far along yet. You
>did a great job with the picture though, thank you.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmlbgBm4QEM

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#16. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009
Sun 23-Sep-12 09:37 PM | edited Sun 23-Sep-12 09:37 PM by PAStime

>I changed the white balance to different settings and then the
>picture quality to Vivid. Nothing seemed to bring out the
>pictures and made them POP! What am I doing wrong?

Note that when I look at the EXIF data for the image example you posted it would appear that the Picture Control was set to Standard and not Vivid.

I scanned all other settings and all seems fine.

Congratulations on shooting manual mode by the way!

Peter


PhotoME version: 0.8ß2 (Build 891)


File type: JPEG
File size: 279.6 KB
Creation date: 09/09/2012 06:23
Last modification: 23/09/2012 19:29
Make: NIKON CORPORATION (http://www.nikon.com)
Camera: NIKON D7000
Lens: AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-105mm F3.5-5.6G ED
Software: Ver.1.03
Dimension: 800 x 530 px (0.4 MP, 3:2)
Focal length: 105 mm (equiv. 157 mm)
Aperture: F10
Exposure time: 1/320"
ISO speed rating: 250/25°
Program: Manual
Metering Mode: Pattern
White Balance: AUTO1
Focus Mode: AF-A
Image Stabilizer: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode


Envelope Record Version: Version 4
Coded Character Set: UTF-8
Application Record Version: Version 4
Creator: Picasa


Application Segment 0 (JFIF): 0x00000006
Application Segment 1 (Exif): 0x00000018
Application Segment 13 (Photoshop): 0x00003388
Encoder: Independent JPEG Group library (used by many applications), Quality: 98
and maybe some other software or cameras
Encoder Signature: 95B6A316836182441B12039279872EC3:211111
Color Mode: RGB color
Subsampling ratio of Y to C: YCbCr4:2:2
Encoding Process: Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits per Sample: 8 bps
Image Height: 530 px
Image Width: 800 px
Number of image components in frame: 3 comp.


Manufacturer: NIKON CORPORATION
Image input equipment model: NIKON D7000
Image resolution in width direction: 300 dpi
Image resolution in height direction: 300 dpi
Unit of X and Y resolution: inch
Software: Ver.1.03
File change date and time: 2012-09-22 23:26:53
Person who created the image: Picasa
Y and C positioning: Co-Sited
Copyright holder:
Exif IFD Pointer: 0x0000011C


Compression scheme: JPEG (old-style)
Image resolution in width direction: 300 dpi
Image resolution in height direction: 300 dpi
Unit of X and Y resolution: inch
Offset to JPEG SOI: 0x00000DF8
Bytes of JPEG data: 8945 bytes
Y and C positioning: Co-Sited


Exposure time: 1/320"
F number: F10
Exposure program: Manual
ISO speed rating: 250/25°
??? (8830): 2
Exif version: 2.3
Date and time of original data generation: 2012-09-09 06:23:33
Date and time of digital data generation: 2012-09-09 06:23:33
Meaning of each component: YCbCr
Image compression mode: 4 bpp
Exposure bias: ±0 EV
Maximum lens aperture: 5 Av (F5.6)
Metering mode: Pattern
Light source: Unknown
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Lens focal length: 105 mm
Manufacturer notes: 0x000003D0
User comment:
DateTime subseconds: 0.3"
DateTimeOriginal subseconds: 0.3"
DateTimeDigitized subseconds: 0.3"
Supported Flashpix version: 1.0
Color space: sRGB
Image width: 800 px
Image height: 530 px
Interoperability IFD Pointer: 0x00000D58
Sensing method: One-chip color area sensor
File source: Digital Camera
Scene type: A directly photographed image
CFA pattern: ,
Custom image processing: Normal process
Exposure mode: Manual exposure
White balance: Auto
Digital zoom ratio: Digital zoom was not used
Focal length in 35 mm film: 157 mm
Scene capture type: Standard
Gain control: None
Contrast: Normal
Saturation: Normal
Sharpness: Normal
Subject distance range: Unknown
Unique image ID: 5c7d2268d2bf8255895c5e67f237d1d5


MakerNote Version: Version 2.1.0
ISO: 250/25°
Quality: Fine
White Balance: AUTO1
Focus Mode: AF-A
Flash Setting: Normal
Flash Type: None
White Balance Fine Tune: ±0, ±0?
White Balance Red/Blue: 2.078125, 1.37890625, 1, 1
Program Shift: ±0 EV
Exposure Difference: ±0 EV
Flash Exposure Compensation: ±0 EV
ISO Setting: 250/25°
Image Boundary: left: 0, top: 0, width: 4928, height: 3264
??? (0017): 1.6.0
Flash Exposure Bracket Value: ±0 EV
Exposure Bracket Value: ±0 EV
Hi-Speed Crop: Off (4992x3280 cropped to 4992x3280 at pixel 0, 0)
??? (001C): 1.6
Serial Number: 3311866
Color Space: sRGB
VR Info Version: 1.0.0
Vibration Reduction: Off
??? (001F): 2 (Off?)
Active D-Lighting: Off
Picture Control Version: 1.0.0
Picture Control Name: STANDARD
Picture Control Base: STANDARD
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Brightness: ±0
Saturation: ±0
Hue Adjustment: ±0
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Auto Distortion Control: Off
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Flash Mode: Did Not Fire
Shooting Mode: Single-Frame
Auto Bracket Release: Auto Release
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Noise Reduction: Off
Color Balance Version: 2.1.6
Lens Data Version: 2.0.4
Used Lens: AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-105mm F3.5-5.6G ED
Exit Pupil Position: 107.8 mm
AF Aperture: F5.7
??? (0098): 5
??? (0098): 0
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??? (0098): 64
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#17. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 11

PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009
Sun 23-Sep-12 09:39 PM


>The first thing I see is the dynamic range of the scene does

On my (calibrated) monitor the saturation appears too high on this adjusted image. I point this out in case the OP has monitor calibration issues. Peter

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#18. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 16

Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Mon 24-Sep-12 10:23 AM

Did you get all that information off that picture? If so, how? Can you do that with pictures you see on the internet that you want to know what settings they used?

Thought that might be another good way of learning the effect that you want to get. Thanks for your input.

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#19. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 18

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Mon 24-Sep-12 03:10 PM

>Did you get all that information off that picture? If so,
>how?

it's called EXIF, or metadata. All digital cameras record this information. EXIF viewers can be downloaded for free off the internet, or you can use View NX that came with your camera.

>Can you do that with pictures you see on the internet
>that you want to know what settings they used?

Not all. Some people strip the data before they post images, other sites strip it automatically.

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#20. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 18

J_Harris Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Awarded for his contribution to the Nikonians Articles section Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011
Mon 24-Sep-12 06:57 PM | edited Tue 25-Sep-12 10:21 AM by J_Harris


Hi Caroleen,

Ken (four eighty sparky) mentioned EXIF readers that can be downloaded from the Internet.

Probably the two most popular that have been mentioned/used by members is Opanda and PhotoME. It looks like Peter (PAStime) in post #16 is using PhotoME.

I have both installed, Panda looks pretty and is simple to read and understand, however I have settled on PhotoME. It has more information but is in a spreedsheet format and a little more complicated to use, until you get used to it. Unfortunately it has been a while since either program has been updated, but they still work fine using Windows and they are free.

You can use the links below to download either one.

http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

http://www.photome.de/

Jerry

Edited: Changed Ken to Peter as using PhotoME in post #16 (Sorry, Peter) .

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#21. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 20

PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009
Mon 24-Sep-12 11:48 PM | edited Mon 24-Sep-12 11:49 PM by PAStime

Yup, I am using PhotoMe. Great program. Price is the best! I can right-click on an image in my Firefox web browser and bring up all of that information you see in my post #16. It also shows the focus points that the camera used. I also added an export option to Lightroom that fires up PhotoMe and shows me the EXIF of the image in question.

Apologies to all too about post #16. It is very lengthy but I thought that seeing the data would help with our diagnosis.

Peter

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Caroleen Registered since 10th Dec 2007
Tue 25-Sep-12 12:26 AM

Thank you Peter for your input. I so appreciate it. I was looking on line at that program and it didn't mention that it would work with Windows #7. Do you know if it will?

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#23. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 22

elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Tue 25-Sep-12 12:30 AM

Yes, I use it on a PC running Win7 64-bit.

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#24. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 22

mudman2 Silver Member Nikonian since 14th May 2009
Tue 25-Sep-12 10:58 AM

Don't waste your time, get Adobe Lightroom or Nikon NX2.

So much better for just about everything you want to do, especially NX2

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#25. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 24

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Tue 25-Sep-12 10:59 AM

>Don't waste your time, get Adobe Lightroom or Nikon NX2.
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>So much better for just about everything you want to do,
>especially NX2


Capture or View?

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#26. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 24

J_Harris Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Awarded for his contribution to the Nikonians Articles section Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011
Tue 25-Sep-12 12:16 PM


Capture/View NX2 and a stand-alone EXIF reader have entirely different purposes.

Most people will use an EXIF reader to simply look at a photo either on the web or their hard drive for analysis/diagnostics or just curiosity - not post processing like you would use Capture/View NX2 for.

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#27. "RE: Disappointed with the D7000" | In response to Reply # 24

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Tue 25-Sep-12 12:28 PM

We're straying off-topic here, gentlemen.

Thanks!

Brian
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