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Adobe support for D7100

Pugzilla

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Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 02:43 AM

Just noted on an Adobe blog - a "staff" member stated in response to the (to us, anyway) obvious question that the wait for Adobe RAW support for the 7100 will not be long (it was also noted by another blogger that DPReview may actually have a copy of this support that they are currently using for testing).


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wlwakefield

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#1. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 0

wlwakefield Registered since 21st Jan 2007
Thu 28-Mar-13 02:23 AM

Yes, I believe they also confirmed it on their facebook page a few days ago.

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Ginsbury

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#2. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 0

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 01:14 PM

It never occurred to me that Adobe might not be more on the ball. This morning, I photographed a (family) event, came home expecting to get the shots processed, sorted and out the door by tonight and, what do I find? Neither LR4 nor CS6 will read the files!!!

What does "not be long" actually mean in terms of days/weeks?

Is there a work-around that will enable me to read my files and not let people down?

As far as I can discern, no beta with support for a D7100 is available either.

URGENT!

Nathan

MasterDabber

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#3. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 2

MasterDabber Registered since 10th Dec 2005
Thu 28-Mar-13 01:38 PM

Convert to DNG?
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Ginsbury

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#4. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 2

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 01:43 PM

Further to my post a short while ago, I applied a dose of RTFM to the problem and found that it is possible to convert NEF files to JPG in camera with the D7100.

LR4 does condescend to read such files so my immediate problem - to keep my promise to our granddaughter - can be kept although a considerable amount of extra work will have to be done.

I wonder if the NEF > JPG in camera conversion can be done in bulk?

Meanwhile, if anyone's listening there at Adobe: Hey, please get your/our act together ASAP!

Nathan

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#5. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 3

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 01:49 PM

Interesting idea, Derek, but, since no Adobe products seem to recognize D7100 NEF files, I would not be sure how to do that. AFAICT, there is no in-camera option for this conversion. To JPG - yes; DNG - no. But I can be - and invariably am - mistaken on this.

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#6. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 4

MasterDabber Registered since 10th Dec 2005
Thu 28-Mar-13 02:02 PM

It looks like there is a hack to make the 7100 NEFs look like 5200Nefs.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51099174

I haven't read the whole thread but worth a look I guess.
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Ginsbury

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#7. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 6

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 02:59 PM

Thanks - have looked at it but it appears to be beyond me from a technological point of view.

Meanwhile, am getting on with the in-camera conversions to JPG (something that I can understand).

Nathan

Pugzilla

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#8. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 7

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 03:56 PM

I'm working around it by 1/shooting in both NEF and jpeg large/fine/optimal quality and keeping the NEF files for later, but also...2/ Sending those NEF files to NX2 and converting them to 16 bit TIFFs, transferring them back to PS6 and working on them in that state also.

I agree that the "Hack" is a little dangerous for me to attempt, being the computer wizard that I am .


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Toby01

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#9. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 4

Toby01 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Nov 2012
Thu 28-Mar-13 04:00 PM

Have you looked at the View/NX shipped with your D7100? I don't use it, preferring Capture/NX2, but I believe it can convert your NEFs in bulk to either jpegs or TIFFs.

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Ginsbury

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#10. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 9

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 04:51 PM

Thanks to both.

No, actually, I did not think of View NX, but since I have almost completed the in-camera conversions to JPG (132 files - not so terrible, could have been much worse) I'll finish that process.

I have already set the camera for RAW + JPG until further notice. My next "assignment" is a four-day affair.

Nathan

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#11. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 10

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 05:25 PM

Nathan,

My guess is that it will be soon be added to "RAW release candidate 7.4" which is available for download now, but not yet with support for the D7100, or final testing, for that matter. If not, I assume that RAW 7.5 will be here quickly, FWIW.


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Ginsbury

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#12. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 11

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 06:14 PM

Dare I ask, Walter, for your guess stats?

Meanwhile, I have completed the in-camera conversion process and imported the JPGs into LR4.

I am most surprised at the good quality, fine color and great detail - all much better than I had expected.

Until Adobe gets its act together, I will make NEFs and JPGs in-camera from the outset.

This, I think, ends this thread as far as I am concerned.

I much appreciated all those who chipped in - at least I (and others) now know where we stand.

BR
Nathan

Pugzilla

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#13. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 12

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 28-Mar-13 06:42 PM

Nathan,

I believe it will be 4/15 at 9:35AM EDT. I also await with bated breath (or is that baited breadth?)

'Bye now.

Walter

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#14. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 12

aolander Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2006
Thu 28-Mar-13 07:31 PM

"Meanwhile, if anyone's listening there at Adobe: Hey, please get your/our act together ASAP!"

Good grief, relax a little. The camera has just barely been available to the public. There has always been some delay between release of a camera and Adobe updates, and I'm sure there always will be.

Alan

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#15. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 13

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Fri 29-Mar-13 04:20 AM

Don't dismiss the free included ViewNX because it will render NEF RAW files better than any initial release of ACR from Adobe. As times goes by, Adobe refines their definition of the file format but it is still a guess since Nikon does not release details of their file format.
If you have images you want to print large, convert in ViewNX or Capture NX2 after making the adjustments of basic parameters, such as WB, exposure, contrast, etc. and save a copy of the adjusted image to TIFF, DNG or if no other choice, JPG. JPG limits the range of adjustment before the image deteriorates. If editing is needed in JPG, do it only on another copy of a rendered RAW file and not on a file that has already been compressed by JPG. Saving a edited JPG, each time, loses data and quality.
You will find that many people use more than one program. In my case, general photos are processed in LR but those to be printed large or are of importance I open the original NEF file in Nikon software and save a copy with edits appropriate for each output media(print large, print small, screen or mobile) in TIFF 16 bit and do any pixel level editing on that file in Photoshop CS6. The Adobe print routines and color management is very good for printing.
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Ginsbury

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#16. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 15

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Fri 29-Mar-13 07:31 AM

Stan - I, for one, really appreciate your explanation. I used to use Capture NX2 but then moved to Lightroom instead. Obviously, there are instances when one needs more than one program, as you say.

Have a great weekend.

Nathan

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#17. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 14

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Fri 29-Mar-13 07:39 AM

Am - now - totally relaxed. In my great naivete, I had assumed that Adobe cooperated with camera manufacturers just as Microsoft does with computer manufacturers. By the time new versions of Windows become available, there are machines out there which can run it.

My first reaction, when I realized that LR could not read my D7100 generated RAW files, was total panic. All is now well, the album promised for this evening is ready for presentation and I have found the D7100 files to be amazing in their color and detail.

Am so glad I made the purchase!

Nathan

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#18. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 17

luckyphoto Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010
Fri 29-Mar-13 10:27 AM

It actually has more to do with Nikon cooperating with software manufacturers than Adobe working with camera manufacturers. Nikon doesn't share their NEF file formats, so Adobe and others have to reverse-engineer the solution. Nikon also feels they have a competing product (Capture NX2) so why help the competition?

Adobe, Apple and Microsoft most likely buy a D7100 along with everyone else and start from scratch. That also accounts for the variance in how the NEF files are interpreted by the various software applications.

Whenever I get a new Nikon such as the D7000 or D600, I use ViewNX2 and change to a TIFF file until the NEF file format is supported. I resist JPEG until the last conversion due to the lossy compression.

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#19. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 18

BrianNK Registered since 25th Feb 2013
Fri 29-Mar-13 01:10 PM | edited Fri 29-Mar-13 01:14 PM by BrianNK

I broke down and wrote a small utility that changes the EXIF info in the RAW files from D7100 to D5200. You can then open the RAW files directly in Lightroom 4...

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It's easier (and faster) then using the 'exiftools' method.

If anybody wants it just shoot me a PM and i'll give you the download link.

Ginsbury

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#20. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 19

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Mon 01-Apr-13 05:19 PM

Hi Brian,

Been away for a few days. Just back and have seen your post. I'm afraid I don't know what a "PM" is or what "shoot me a PM" could mean, but yes, please, I would absolutely love to have your utility. Should solve all my problems here.

MTIAs

Nathan
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#22. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 21

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Tue 02-Apr-13 05:31 AM

Many thanks, Dave. I see it now and will follow through accordingly.

Nathan

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#23. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 0

markel253 Registered since 03rd Apr 2013
Wed 03-Apr-13 10:35 AM

Congratulations to Adobe - one day after I received my D7100 I get a notification of a new ACR update and I now have RAW support in Photoshop CS6!

Thank you Adobe!



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#24. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 23

Ginsbury Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Wed 03-Apr-13 01:11 PM

Thanks, Mark, for the heads up.

I now have LR4.4 with RAW support for the D7100.

Nathan

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#25. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 24

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 04-Apr-13 01:39 PM

Hi,

You know, they actually did get this update out pretty quickly, and it seems to be working appropriately. And I predicted 4/15....oh, well, wrong again .

Walter

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#26. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 25

markel253 Registered since 03rd Apr 2013
Thu 04-Apr-13 02:56 PM

>You know, they actually did get this update out pretty
>quickly, and it seems to be working appropriately. And I
>predicted 4/15....oh, well, wrong again .


And I'll bet you are happy to be wrong in this case.


Mark

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#27. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 26

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Thu 04-Apr-13 04:04 PM

How true, Mark, how true.

Walter

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gfinlayson

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#28. "RE: Adobe support for D7100" | In response to Reply # 27

gfinlayson Registered since 24th Jan 2011
Sat 06-Apr-13 05:55 PM

I downloaded all of the Adobe updates yesterday, and then ordered my D7100! I held off pulling the trigger until the support for the RAW files was available in Lightroom and Photoshop.

G