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bill unger

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bill unger Registered since 25th Oct 2011
Mon 28-Jan-13 04:30 PM

I am having trouble keeping the histogram away from the sides. Even though I set to matrix and have the light meter in the middle most of the histograms are jammed up to one side or the other.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks

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aolander

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#1. "RE: Histogram" | In response to Reply # 0

aolander Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2006
Mon 28-Jan-13 03:37 PM

There really isn't a "normal" histogram. What it looks like would depend upon the scene. If there are mostly dark tones, it may be more towards the left, the opposite if there are mostly light tones even with matrix metering. If you shoot RAW, keeping the histogram to the right without clipping is often recommended no matter what the scene looks like.

Are the histograms clipped or just near the sides? Show us some examples and how you metered.

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agitater Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 18th Jan 2007
Mon 28-Jan-13 06:32 PM

Post a couple of sample shots Bill. Can't tell what you're doing without some samples.

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bill unger

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#3. "RE: Histogram" | In response to Reply # 2

bill unger Registered since 25th Oct 2011
Mon 28-Jan-13 11:24 PM | edited Tue 29-Jan-13 12:02 AM by dm1dave

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bill unger

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#4. "RE: Histogram" | In response to Reply # 2

bill unger Registered since 25th Oct 2011
Mon 28-Jan-13 11:26 PM

I posted two images. I may not have done it correctly. I am not sure how to send the histogram. Let me know if you got it.
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Bill

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dm1dave

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#5. "RE: Histogram" | In response to Reply # 4

dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006
Tue 29-Jan-13 12:01 AM

Hi Bill,

I updated your post above to add the histograms for the two images.

In this case I would not worry about the histogram being pushed to the left. These are indoor shots using flash so the backgrounds are going to be dark. Your subjects are properly exposed and nothing important is lost in the shadows.

In fact lookin at the on the right side, if you had exposed brighter you may have lost some highlights. The dynamic rage of the light is greater than the camera can record. In this case it is better to sacrifice the shadows.

The right side of the histogram is usually more important than the left side. If you overexpose, histogram bumped up against the right side, there is little room for recovering those lost highlights. The shadow detail is more easily recovered, especially at low ISO.

When you have a scene like this, that has a dark background, you can use active D-Lighting to help bring up the brightness without overexposing the highlights.

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four eighty sparky

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#6. "RE: Histogram" | In response to Reply # 4

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Tue 29-Jan-13 12:05 AM

Even if you're shooting raw, there isn't much you can do about how the histogram looks in post. It's best to use the histo in the camera first to judge exposure. If it doesn't look good there, then adjust the exposure.

Use the + button on the camera to zoom into the more important areas of the image and check the histogram. If it looks good at that point, don't worry about the rest. It appears the left side of the histograms you posted are for the background.

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Tue 29-Jan-13 12:28 AM

Darrell has a pretty good tutorial about histograms
http://darrellyoung.blogspot.com/2010/02/understanding-your-nikons-histogram.html

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