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Bearsmom2

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Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Sun 11-Nov-12 06:05 PM

New D700 came with a dangerous virus. It took several months of struggling with my manual lenses and poor eyesight but I broke down and bought an autofocus lens. Thats when the virus got me. NAS.

The lens is only a 24-120 and its the older VR model but wow talk about killer autofocus. I have to check to see if it actually focused its that fast. Now I want more and more.

Still have to stick to less expensive because I havent the income grade for the top of the line but my success with this used lens from KEH has me pouring over websites constanly in a search for other goodies.

One thing I cant figure out is I've never really used wide angle and certainly not wider than 24 but for some reason the siren song of the 17-35 just wont leave me alone. I'm not sure how I'd use it except to take goofy pictures of my long horns and the llamas big eyes, but its all I can think about. I cant even think about the after market brands, that NIkon lens pokes at me constantly.

Is this the way NAS works?

Karen

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Blondul

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#1. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

Blondul Registered since 27th Dec 2011
Sun 11-Nov-12 06:06 PM | edited Sun 11-Nov-12 06:20 PM by Blondul

... NAS was spreaded through all of us!

DinoCardelli

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#2. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

DinoCardelli Registered since 19th Oct 2010
Sun 11-Nov-12 06:27 PM

I caught the Trilogy Virus last year... 14-24 2.8, 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8...

I was feeling better than a case of the 24mm F1.4 hit me

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GiantTristan

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#3. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

GiantTristan Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006
Sun 11-Nov-12 07:17 PM

Interesting comment. Though I have the best Nikon AF zoom lenses, I increasingly use MF lenses which work great on the D700 with LiveView. By the way - I have been free of the NAS virus for over four years, but I now suffer from ZAS, which is even more expensive to cure.

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jgould2

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#4. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

jgould2 Gold Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 13th Oct 2007
Sun 11-Nov-12 10:26 PM

Hi Karen.

I know I am not being helpful but I really love my 17-35. If I didn't have one and was buying new I think I would opt for the new 16-35 f/4 since it has VR. I have been seeing used 17-35s for around $1000 for about seven years.

I think you have to feed a virus and starve a cold.

JIM

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Mon 12-Nov-12 06:49 AM

My 17-35 has become one of my most used lens on my D700.

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dclarhorn Moderator In depth knowledge and high level skills in a variety of areas including landscape Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning a Nikonians Annual Photo Contest Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 31st Mar 2002
Mon 12-Nov-12 01:59 PM

Karen, that's how it works. It's perhaps controllable to a point, but not curable.

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avm247

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avm247 Moderator Awarded for high skills in documentary architecture and aviation photography Donor Ribbon. Awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Charter Member
Mon 12-Nov-12 02:48 PM

Is this the way NAS works?

Yeah, pretty much. Welcome to NAS.


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avm247

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#8. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 6

avm247 Moderator Awarded for high skills in documentary architecture and aviation photography Donor Ribbon. Awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Charter Member
Mon 12-Nov-12 02:49 PM

It just goes dormant for a while, but never really cured.

Anthony

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avm247

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#9. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 6

avm247 Moderator Awarded for high skills in documentary architecture and aviation photography Donor Ribbon. Awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Charter Member
Mon 12-Nov-12 02:49 PM

It just goes dormant for a while, but never really cured.

Anthony

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Bearsmom2

Florence, US
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#10. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 3

Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 03:50 PM

>Interesting comment. Though I have the best Nikon AF zoom
>lenses, I increasingly use MF lenses which work great on the
>D700 with LiveView. By the way - I have been free of the NAS
>virus for over four years, but I now suffer from ZAS, which is
>even more expensive to cure.
Okay I'll bite ZAS?

Unfortunately my lifestyle doesnt include much time for tripods and live view Im always shooting on the spur of the moment. I have three big wants then maybe it will leave me alone. Doc says theres no shot for this virus LOL.

Karen

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Bearsmom2

Florence, US
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#11. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 4

Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 03:54 PM

Actually Jim you are being helpful. Im glad to know you love the lens. $1200+ is the best price Ive seen used. I struggled with the tradeoff of VR or 2.8. The 2.8 won, that and the flare resistance Ive read about. I dont know I just find '7's lucky.
Thanks for the input.

Karen

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Bearsmom2

Florence, US
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#12. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 5

Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 03:55 PM

Good to know Bob, I cant wait to see what I can do with it.

Karen

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Bearsmom2

Florence, US
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#13. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 6

Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 03:57 PM

Well maybe once I get the 17-35, 70-300, and the 85 or105 micro maybe it will leave me alone.

Karen

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Bearsmom2

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#14. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 8

Bearsmom2 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Jul 2012
Mon 12-Nov-12 04:08 PM

You warned of this before Anthony but I thought I could resist, be austere and all that with my manual lenses, but the only one I had any luck with was the 55micro.

I spent so much time trying to get focus I couldnt concentrate on composition or exposure. My eyes arent what they used to be and dear as the D700 is I do wish it had that focus screen in my old FM.

I broke down and picked up a 24-120 3.5 VR for $250 and instead of helping it broke my resistance to the bug. So far Ive had great results with the lens and as I said the auto focus is so fast I have to keep checking to see if it actually worked.

This camera is beyond incredible.

Thanks all



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GiantTristan

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#15. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 10

GiantTristan Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006
Mon 12-Nov-12 04:14 PM


>Okay I'll bite ZAS?
Karen - the "Z" in "ZAS" stands for Zeiss.

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MEMcD

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#16. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Mon 12-Nov-12 09:00 PM

Hi Karen,

Welcome to the club!
If you think AF lenses are addicting, wait until you get used to shooting with "Fast Glass".
NAS will kick into overdrive.
The 17-35mm is an outstanding lens.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

jdroach

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Mon 12-Nov-12 10:04 PM

NAS is wonderful!

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KenLPhotos

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#18. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

KenLPhotos Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Jul 2009
Tue 13-Nov-12 10:42 AM

>The lens is only a 24-120 and its the older VR model

Wait until you try one with nano-coating. You may start selling your children. Just looking at an image on my monitor screen, I can say 'that one was taken with my 24-70!'.

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piniongear

Houston Texas, US
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#19. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 10

piniongear Registered since 29th Jul 2006
Wed 21-Nov-12 11:57 PM

I would not get too antsy about buying a 17-35 if I were you.
I own a pile of Nikon gear (check my long list of equipment) and have owned the 17-35 for quite a few years now.

I find that I seldom use this lens now because if I want to go wide angle I will take along my small 16mm Fisheye instead of the heavy 17-35.
Wider coverage with a shorter and much lighter lens.

I shoot everything in NEF and then run it through Capture NX.
The fisheye effect is corrected (should I chose to) with a single click of the mouse.

The 17-35 is a fairly expensive lens but is still an F2.8 lens.

So what do I use in place of the 17-35?

Option 1 is take the 16mm and my 24-70.

Second option is to take the 16mm, a 20mm and a 35mm.

With this option one lens is on the camera and the other two fit into a single Tamrac zippered belt bag.

These 3 lens probably are lighter together than the 17-35 lens and certainly a lot shorter.

Option 3 is to take all of the above options plus add the 70-200 VRII.
This equipment list served me well on a trip to the Galapagos Islands earlier this year.
Perry

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JonK

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JonK Moderator Awarded for his high level skills and in-depth knowledge in various areas, such as Wildlife, Landscape and Stage Photography Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 03rd Jul 2004
Thu 22-Nov-12 12:22 AM

Ah, the NAS virus. Almost never curable. You might try lottery tickets.

But the accessories you can buy for your camera are way cool: wide angle lenses, flash, portrait lenses, various supports, telephoto lenses, filters, exotic lenses, new software…

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NASattack

Dartford, UK
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#21. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 20

NASattack Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Feb 2008
Thu 22-Nov-12 04:40 PM

Nas is a problem.





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JohnGeerts

Tilburg, NL
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#22. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 5

JohnGeerts Registered since 19th Apr 2013
Fri 26-Apr-13 07:08 PM

>My 17-35 has become one of my most used lens on my D700.


The results are amazing, just have the d700 and used the 17-35 on the d80 and d100, and now I know, they couldn't handle the lens. The d700 can.

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professorune

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#23. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

professorune Registered since 08th Jun 2013
Sun 16-Jun-13 12:40 PM

The 17-35 comes highly commended. I love mine. Having said this, once you see the wide angle capability from this lens, you may want even more & wider; leading to the 14-24.

And so it continues. NAS gets all of us ...

phlash46

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#24. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 14

phlash46 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Feb 2008
Mon 17-Jun-13 08:49 AM

The D700 is probably the best DSLR I've ever used. My eyes also aren't what they used to be; consider a Katz-Eye focusing screen for it...just like the old FM screens. Here's the link:
http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/

They're very nice people. I'm waiting for the screen for my D7100 to come out.

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franco1

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#25. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 0

franco1 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Mar 2009
Mon 17-Jun-13 10:00 PM | edited Mon 17-Jun-13 10:01 PM by franco1

NAS kicked into overdrive for me last year. I bought my D700 early in the year and then the obsession to own the Holy Trinity kicked in. Was checking eBay and other websites almost on a daily basis to get the best price or to find the "As New" second hand lens. But the craving doesn't end, accessories abound for the D700 and there's always that extra gadget or necessary item I must have to complement my kit-hence my latest purchase the Closeup Flash Kit the Nikon R1!

Good luck with your decision on the the 17-35mm. I'm sure you won't regret it and it will help you achieve great results. Just to give you the heads up, it won't end with that lens There's no cure for NAS!

Cheers
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phlash46

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phlash46 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Feb 2008
Tue 18-Jun-13 01:48 PM

I've tried rehab, hypnotism, burying credit cards, selling my computer, hiding in the closet...nothing worked.

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robsb

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#27. "RE: Nobody warned me" | In response to Reply # 12

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Tue 18-Jun-13 11:49 PM

Karen my D700 was my 2nd Nikon DSLR, and I had a D200 before that (still do). I had moved from a Nikon F3HP and had never owned an AF lens. ALL of my lenses were old MF, and the MF lenses worked great with the D200 but it was hard to focus. the D700 without any changes was much better. I mostly use AF lenses now the 70-200 VR being my first purchase to replace an excellent 70-200 f/4 MF. I then bought a used 35-70 and for a long time IT was my most used lens. But I travel a lot so I bought a 16 mm f/2.8 and the 17-35 f/2.8 and then I bought an 85 mm f/1.4 and a 300 f/4 AFS to replace my old MF 300 mm f/4.5. I also bought a 200 mm f/4 Micro Nikkor to complement my 55 mm f/2.8 MF Micro Nikkor. I have stopped buying lenses. My NAS is dormant! The lenses I would love to own now are just too much money to spend on a hobby. I love the way my remaining MF and all my AF lenses work with my D700 which is now over 4 years old. It is as comfortable as an old shoe, and my travel kit now consists of the 17-35 and my 85mm with a 1.4 TC and once in awhile I take either the a 16mm or maybe my 70-200 instead depending on the trip and weight limits.

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