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AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting

nimike

Prague, CZ
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nimike Registered since 05th Jul 2008
Wed 09-Jul-08 09:44 PM | edited Thu 10-Jul-08 08:27 AM by nimike

As you can see on the pictures at http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond700/page4.asp, D700's AF points covers only middle area of the image frame. I believe that it is fine for sport and reportage photographers but what about landscape photography? I often use AF points placed near frame border now for focusing on objects at hyperfocal distance and I'm afraid that it could be problem with D700, especially in use with the tripod. What is your experience?

nimike

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#1. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

nimike Registered since 05th Jul 2008
Wed 09-Jul-08 07:46 PM

PS: please remove the comma from the link, it could be http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond700/page4.asp

mwhals

Winfield, US
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#2. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

mwhals Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2004
Wed 09-Jul-08 09:57 PM

With my cameras, I always focused, locked it and then recomposed. I don't see a problem. Photographers got by when cameras didn't have outer frame AF sensors without any problems. In landscape photography, there is time to do the necessary steps.

Shoot nature with respect and don't trample it or startle its inhabitants. :)

walkerr

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#3. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

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Thu 10-Jul-08 09:27 AM | edited Thu 10-Jul-08 09:28 AM by walkerr

I usually use manual focus when doing hyperfocal focusing. It's a lot easier than switching around AF sensors and potentially recomposing.

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RWCooper

Winnipeg, CA
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#4. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 3

RWCooper Silver Member Nikonian since 04th Jul 2004
Thu 10-Jul-08 10:50 AM

Hi,

I always focus manually in this situation as well. I can't imagine fiddling around with autofocus sensors and recomposing for landscape photography. When I get my D700 I plan on using my manual focus 17mm and 24mm lenses as I did for film. These lenses have the f-stop and distance markings that are missing from the newer AF primes that make it easy to set the lens to the hyperfocal distance.

Enjoy!

Randy

adjuh

NL
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#5. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 4

adjuh Registered since 19th May 2006
Mon 13-Oct-08 07:12 AM

I agree mostly with the OP. For landscapes I prefer MF, but for portrait, candid and concert photogrphy I always use the outer AF points. You simply don't have time to focus and recompose.
The D700 is an attractive camera, but this could be the reason for NOT getting one.

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Tongariro

London, UK
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#6. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

Tongariro Registered since 14th Jul 2007
Mon 13-Oct-08 08:59 AM

This won't help with auto-focus, but it could be that live view in tripod mode could help to check the quality of manual focus. I recently posted a thread about this ( https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=set_threaded_mode&forum=226&topic_id=4501&prev_page=show_topic&gid=0#4501 ) and know no more than the response given by Narc. I don't have a D700 (yet), so I haven't had a chance to try it myself.

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Len Shepherd

Yorkshire, UK
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#7. "RE: Sometimes dpreview are at least part wrong" | In response to Reply # 0

Len Shepherd Gold Member Nikonian since 09th Mar 2003
Mon 13-Oct-08 02:22 PM

Often there are considerable advantages in using Live View tripod mode for landscapes.
One advantage is in Live View Tripod mode AF can be positioned anywhere in the picture frame, not just in the central AF area
Perhaps dpreview do not test extensively or check out camera instructions before publication.

Photography is a bit like archery. A technically better camera, lens or arrow may not hit the target as often as it could if the photographer or archer does not practice enough.

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Kevin C

Dorset, UK
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#8. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

Kevin C Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Apr 2004
Mon 13-Oct-08 04:10 PM

Linky no worky

Personally I'd either focus manually, or use the centre af point and recompose. For a landscape you will probably be using a fairly small aperture so any minute error in recomposing will be extremely minimal.

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narc

UK
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#9. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting?" | In response to Reply # 0

narc Registered since 07th Aug 2008
Mon 13-Oct-08 05:12 PM | edited Mon 13-Oct-08 05:14 PM by narc

Why would you ever want to use AF for landscape photography anyway?

HarryBinNC

Marshall, US
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#10. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 5

HarryBinNC Registered since 21st Nov 2006
Thu 16-Oct-08 06:26 PM

In Response to Reply #5:

As a photographer who shoots with available light 99% of the time, with much of it people and things in dimly lit rooms, my experience with the D700 is that the focusing system is very, very good in practically any light this side of total darkness, and is absolutely a reason FOR getting one.

I have been getting good pictures in bad light with mostly manual focus lenses for about 40 years - now my eyes are bad, and the D700's wonderful focusing system has enabled me to continue shooting the way I have always done. That was absolutely not the case with the D70 and D200 that came before it.

I can't use the viewfinder/focusing screen effectively anymore, so I rely on the focus indicators at the lower left corner of the viewfinder screen - just point the camera, get the green dot, and shoot. It works fabulously well for me with both auto and manual focus lenses. No exaggeration - before I bought the D700, I was ready to give up photography altogether and was in a very deep funk due to my inability to focus a camera.

Just my 2 cents

Harry

KnightPhoto

Alberta, CA
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#11. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Thu 16-Oct-08 10:19 PM

HEY, has anyone tried out custom setting a8 AF point selection set to 11?

I never noticed this setting until configuring my D700 last night, but I am thinking that it might increase my speed in thumb-wheeling the AF point selector (multi selector) around when using continuous focus.

It's a little weird because I have A3 Dynamic AF area set to 51-point per my normal habit, but A8 allows me to move around more quickly when making the initial selection of the starting focus point!!

Also not sure if these 11 AF points correspond to the cross-AF-sensors or not...

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hades

Porto Alegre, BR
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#12. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 11

hades Registered since 14th Oct 2007
Sat 18-Oct-08 12:39 PM

No, the cross sensors are the ones in the middle. The 11-point mode uses only 3 of these sensors.

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KnightPhoto

Alberta, CA
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#13. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 12

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Sun 19-Oct-08 02:13 PM

Thanks for the clarification,

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gwelland

Vancouver, US
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#14. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 0

gwelland Silver Member Nikonian since 23rd Apr 2003
Mon 20-Oct-08 03:59 AM

I actually agree with the OP on this. For the vast majority of cases the central AF area is fine for landscape or action. However, I also sometimes find that I've composed the shot using an AF lens on the tripod and then want to select a foreground item that is outside of the AF zones. Often this is only very slightly outside the AF zone but it might as well be way off since the solution still requires moving the camera, focussing and then recomposing. This isn't unique to the D700 - it also applies to the D3.

My preference for landscape these days is Zeiss manual focus primes. However, there are often times where I'll have the 14-24 or 24-70 with me and these are pretty lame in MF mode IMHO (at least compared to real MF lenses).

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hades

Porto Alegre, BR
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#15. "RE: AF points frame coverage for landscape shooting" | In response to Reply # 14

hades Registered since 14th Oct 2007
Mon 20-Oct-08 10:16 AM

I agree with you, Graham. AF lenses have very loose focusing mechanics to make it easier for the camera to spin it using the internal motors. Accidents may (and do) happen and sometimes you shoot with the wrong focus point. On dedicated lenses (Zeiss, Leica) these focus rings are waaaay better and the hyperfocal marks are a lot easier to use with precision.

Luis

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