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D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G

anabasis

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anabasis Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2003
Mon 28-Jul-08 07:06 PM

I received my D700 today and after throwing in my EN-EL4 pack from my F6, was off to the races setting it up.

I haven't gone shooting with it yet (I am waiting until closer to dusk), but have tested my 70-200 VR lens on it. As I was expecting, the corners darken quite a bit wide open. You can actually see the effect as you zoom from 70 to 200mm in the viewfinder. I shot RAW + jpg and turned the in-camera vignetting control off to see how bad it is. It is rather bad I have to say. It is too bad as this is one of my favorite lenses.

I plugged the NEF's into Capture NX 2 and used the vignette control in the software to see what I could do at both 70 and 200 mm. The correction worked better on the long end, which is good since this is where I use the lens most.

While the software fix works at least reasonably well, I think I will be using this lens mostly on my D2x instead of the D700.

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mwhals

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#1. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 0

mwhals Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2004
Mon 28-Jul-08 05:09 PM

Makes me glad I kept my 80-200/2.8 AFS lens as I have heard it doesn't have the problem.

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nikolaj1972

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#2. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 0

nikolaj1972 Registered since 13th Sep 2007
Mon 28-Jul-08 05:34 PM

thanks for mention that. really useful info
Nikolaj Freiesleben

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#3. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 0

Prowicz Registered since 11th May 2008
Mon 28-Jul-08 05:38 PM | edited Mon 28-Jul-08 05:39 PM by Prowicz

I cant seem to understand this, I use a D3 with a 70-200 on a dialy basis, and I experience no problems whatsoever. Have a look at the shot below.

The first shot is with a 70-200 at 200mm

The second shot to compare with is with a 300mm 2.8 nikkor

Both out of the camera with no PP.



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Mark (Prowicz)

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simpo two

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#4. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 3

simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004
Mon 28-Jul-08 06:49 PM

Ths may seem facile but do you have a UV filter on your 70-200?

John
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anabasis

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#5. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 4

anabasis Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2003
Mon 28-Jul-08 07:09 PM

Mark,

Nice MX shots! I first used this lens doing that same work, but with a D100. Question is, what aperture are you using? I used to shoot between f4 and f5.6 when shooting MX. My issues are wide open at f2.8. I will attach an unedited jpg or two to show you what I mean.

John,

I usually keep a skylight 1B filter on there. The vignetting is very noticable throughout the zoom range with the filter on; but I see it with or without the filter on the long end.

Attached are 2 jpgs at 70 and 200mm wide open.

JCA

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LMMiller9

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#6. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 3

LMMiller9 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2005
Mon 28-Jul-08 07:18 PM

I don't get this either.

Here are two shots of the same scene taken with the 70-200 at 200m, one with the d300 and one with the d700. Do you see anything?

http://www.pbase.com/lmmiller9/image/100739027
http://www.pbase.com/lmmiller9/image/100739031

I see no vignetting at all, but maybe I just don't understand it. This will remain one of my favorite lenses with the D700.

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hades

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#7. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 6

hades Registered since 14th Oct 2007
Mon 28-Jul-08 07:53 PM

Larry,

try shooting wide open at f/2.8. Vignetting should appear on a D700/D3 with that setting.

Luis Balbinot
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simpo two

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#8. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 7

simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004
Mon 28-Jul-08 08:12 PM

Larry's example has trees round the edge - I think that would tend to cover up any vignetting, whereas plain sky is much more testing.

It just shows that FX isn't all a bed of roses - it's much more demanding on lenses.

Anyway, my D700 arrives tomorrow so I too shall soon be fretting over vignettting and insufficient range :wibble:

John
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Prowicz

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#9. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 5

Prowicz Registered since 11th May 2008
Tue 29-Jul-08 08:04 AM

In all fairness, in both of the shots seen above, the lenses were stopped down to f/5.6. The 70-200 may not be the perfect lens for FX body cameras. But I see no real problems in using it, even wide-open in the future. If I have to do a little PP in Lightroom, so be it.

Mark.

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johno

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#10. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 8

johno Silver Member Nikonian since 23rd May 2006
Tue 29-Jul-08 01:15 PM

I am curious to see how the viginetting control works in the D700 menu. It's clear Nikon was expecting this to be an issue, and knowledgable photographers seem to be not surprised by this.

What I have not seen is any post examining how the in-camera menu controls deal with this situation.

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#11. "....my 80-200 AFS..." | In response to Reply # 10

blackfeather Registered since 16th Apr 2006
Wed 30-Jul-08 10:27 AM

...is clean from edge to edge....

anabasis

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#12. "RE: D700 & VR 70-200 f2.8G" | In response to Reply # 10

anabasis Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2003
Wed 30-Jul-08 02:28 PM

The shots I posted above are with the 70-200 wide open at f2.8 with the Vignetting control in camera at "normal" It does help quite a bit, but not perfect as I tried these same shots with the setting on "off" and it is much worse. Perhaps with a higher setting with this lens it will be better. You can add to the in-camera setting in Capture NX 2 as well.

Stopping down any lens will help with this issue, which is why the MX shots look a lot cleaner.

If you care to check out the 70-200 on an FX camera, you can see the effects as you zoom in the viewfinder on the ground glass.

This issue is probably driving a re-design on this lens at Nikon.

You can certainly clean most of it up in PP, but that adds time to the workflow, which is disappointing in a $1,600 optic.

I will be playing with the in camera settings a bit more with this combination when I get a chance.

JCA

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