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zeex3

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zeex3 Basic Member
Tue 25-Nov-08 04:35 PM

Is the LCD screen on the camera back tempered glass as it is on the D3?

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chrislam

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#1. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 0

chrislam Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Dec 2005
Wed 26-Nov-08 05:39 PM

Hello,

I read here and there that both cameras had the same tempered glass. But in this case, the reason why they protected it on the D700 and not on the D3 is unknown...

I removed the cover on my D700 and replaced it with a second glass "GGS" which gives a much better view on the LCD and seems to be more resistant that the original plastic cover.

EYES WIDE SHUTter...
Christian
Belgium (EU)

Pugzilla

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#2. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 0

Pugzilla Registered since 05th Aug 2008
Wed 26-Nov-08 09:54 PM

Yes, it is. The plastic BM-9 protector, will, after use, cloud up, so I keep one or 2 spares in the bag.

Walter

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exfebee

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#3. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 1

exfebee Basic Member
Wed 26-Nov-08 11:17 PM

Evening Christian,
Where would i find the appropriate D700 GGS type glass ?
Thanks
Carl..

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chrislam

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#4. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 3

chrislam Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Dec 2005
Thu 27-Nov-08 07:28 PM | edited Thu 27-Nov-08 07:29 PM by chrislam

Good evening Carl,

I bought mine on Ebay
Here's a link :
http://cgi.ebay.com/GGS-pro-LCD-Screen-Protector-for-Nikon-D700_W0QQitemZ110310789924QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081111?IMSfp=TL081111111002r34370

Best regards,

EYES WIDE SHUTter...
Christian
Belgium (EU)

jcopeland

Cordova, US
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#5. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 4

jcopeland Registered since 22nd Nov 2008
Fri 28-Nov-08 05:52 AM

Here's another link for the GGS protector screens:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/MCarbParts.htm


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chevysales

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#6. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 5

chevysales Registered since 08th Nov 2008
Fri 28-Nov-08 10:56 AM | edited Fri 28-Nov-08 10:56 AM by chevysales

>Here's another link for the GGS protector screens:
>
>http://www.fulton-armory.com/MCarbParts.htm
>
>

funny as fulton armory was always at camp perry for the national matches i used to buy many parts from them...one of the first to offer a doubled lugged m14 reciever... or to the public that would be an m1a reciever.

nice guy he was in maryland and was buying all the components he could during dcm 's heyday in early to mid eighties.

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Ed911

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#7. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 2

Ed911 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Apr 2007
Tue 27-Jul-10 09:21 PM

I just saw a glass LCD protector on my friends D700...very nice...and better for viewing the LCD than the plastic LCD screen protector that comes with the camera. I think he paid $11 for his. And, it seems like he got his on eBay.

Hope this helps.

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Lance B

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#8. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 7

Lance B Registered since 11th Jul 2010
Wed 28-Jul-10 01:18 AM

I just fitted my Giotto rear LCD screen protector and it works great! The original plastic cover became a little scratched and difficult to see through and so I wanted a better screen protector and the Giotto seemed to fit the bill.

Some of the benefits:

* Schott glass

* "12layer AR coating technology of LEYBOLD Germany to improve the transparency and withstands UV, protecting LCD, improving colour quality and prolong the working life of the LCD",

* .5mm thick.Light transmission above 98%.

* Finger print and water proof repellent coating

It is applied to the rear screen with a double sided tape which is already on the glass screen.

For those who are contemplating getting one, my tip for aligning the screen is once you have cleaned the rear LCD in preparation of applying the Giotto screen, remove the plastic proective sheeting from the Giotto screen and then use a suction cap on the outer surface of the Giotto screen as a hold point in order to make alignment easy. Use one of those suction cap darts from a kids toy gun would be a good thing to use and the dart part could be the hold point. I used a suction cap from a fish tank thermometer which has a hold point where the thermometer would normally be attached. Worked like a dream for very easy alignment and now the screen is perfectly in place.

Even out in the sun, the Giotto screen is much better than the plastic cover supplied by Nikon, not that that would be difficult. I am very happy with the results! Easy to keep clean and adds that bit of extra protection.

For those interested, go to:
http://www.giottos.com/

and then click on the "Cleaning Kits / Filters / Protectors:" under the very last option of "SP".

For the D700, you will require part number 8307 version.
For D3/D3X, you will require the 8304 version.

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TiggerGTO

Apex, US
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#9. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 8

TiggerGTO Gold Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006
Wed 28-Jul-10 09:12 AM

Thanks for the idea for how to hold and position a glass screen. I bought one of the GGS screen protectors a long time ago but never installed it because I know if I put it on crooked it will annoy the heck out of me. I think I'll try putting it on now with this suggestion.

Danny
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Lance B

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#10. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 9

Lance B Registered since 11th Jul 2010
Thu 29-Jul-10 01:26 AM

>Thanks for the idea for how to hold and position a glass
>screen. I bought one of the GGS screen protectors a long time
>ago but never installed it because I know if I put it on
>crooked it will annoy the heck out of me. I think I'll try
>putting it on now with this suggestion.
>

I am glad that I could help at least somebody!

Let us know how you get on.

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ctadin

St Louis, US
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#11. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 8

ctadin Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2008
Thu 29-Jul-10 02:41 PM

I just ordered 2 of them for my D700's. Thanks for the link and for the helpful tip on how to apply them.

Cheryl

ajdooley

Waterloo, US
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#12. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 8

ajdooley Gold Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Sat 31-Jul-10 05:50 PM

The Giottos SP 8307 12-layer coating LCD protector sounds like good insurance - but while I can find technical info at the Giottos site, I have not been able to turn up anywhere to buy one. B&H has a zillion Giottos screen protectors -- but apparently NOT the SP 8307 for our D700s. Help?

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ctadin

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#13. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 12

ctadin Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2008
Sun 01-Aug-10 12:56 AM

This is what I ordered from B&H. The description says it is for a D700.

Item #SP8302, AEGIS Professional Glass Optic Screen Protector - 12.

I should be receiving in near the end of next week. I'll let you know how it fits.

Cheryl

Robp

Gainesville, US
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#14. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 13

Robp Gold Member Nikonian since 23rd Oct 2009
Sun 01-Aug-10 01:56 AM

Cheryl,

Hope that works out. B&H says the SP 8302 is for the D300 and the D700 but Giottos says it's for the D300 and an SP 8307 is for the D700. Giottos says they are different dimensions.

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ctadin

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#15. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 14

ctadin Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2008
Fri 13-Aug-10 11:54 AM

Rob,
B&H says the SP 8302 is for the D300
>and the D700 but Giottos says it's for the D300 and an SP 8307
>is for the D700. Giottos says they are different dimensions.

I received from B&H Giottos SP 8302L. The package states for a Nikon D300. I contacted B&H customer support and was told it would work on the D700. Giottos includes a pull out LCD template which I placed over my D700 LCD's screen to make sure it was the right dimensions. It may be a hair off on the length. I applied it as per Lance's extremely helpful suggestion. Although, I did not have his tools of choice. A friend suggested I use suction cups with hooks which I found in my local Home Depot. The brand name: OOK, Medium Clear Suction Cups with Hooks, 4 to a package.

Cheryl

voyageurfred

Montreal, CA
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#16. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 8

voyageurfred Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Jun 2007
Mon 23-Aug-10 10:19 PM | edited Mon 23-Aug-10 10:20 PM by voyageurfred

Many thanks Lance for the extremely useful tip.

I cracked my scuffed plastic BM-9 screen protector when trying to remove it from my D700 for a better view of the LCD.

I bought two replacements in July from B&H while visiting New York. I have not used either yet, so I will call them tomorrow and see if I can do a swap and pay the difference.

Those Nikon plastic covers are not the best...

Cheers,
Frederic in Montréal

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Jersey Doug

Cinnaminson, US
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#17. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 16

Jersey Doug Gold Member Nikonian since 07th Jun 2007
Fri 27-Aug-10 03:32 PM

>
>
>Those Nikon plastic covers are not the best...
>
>Cheers,
>Frederic in Montréal

True. That is why I never used them. I also don't feel the need for any additional protection above and beyond tempered glass of the LCD screen. But, that is me.

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voyageurfred

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#18. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 17

voyageurfred Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Jun 2007
Fri 27-Aug-10 04:04 PM | edited Fri 27-Aug-10 04:06 PM by voyageurfred

I also don't feel the need for any additional protection above and beyond tempered glass of the LCD screen.

This comes from my Dad, since retired, who was an engineer and project manager at Spar Aerospace, the makers of the Canadarm used on the space shuttle:

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

I value my cam and LCD. By chance, a single grain of sand got in behind the plastic cover and caused a tiny pit in the tempered glass of the LCD screen. I use my D700 daily, it pays the bills, and I need to keep it in top shape. My existing plastic cover has done the job of protecting that LCD screen, but now I seek something better.

I just hope you never scratch, scuff, or even worse... break your LCD screen. The day it happens, you may regret your decision.

Out of curiosity, do you have a protective filter on the front of your Nikkor lenses?

Cheers,
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Jersey Doug

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#19. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 18

Jersey Doug Gold Member Nikonian since 07th Jun 2007
Fri 27-Aug-10 05:36 PM

>I also don't feel the need for any additional protection
>above and beyond tempered glass of the LCD screen.

>
>This comes from my Dad, since retired, who was an engineer and
>project manager at Spar Aerospace, the makers of the Canadarm
>used on the space shuttle:
>
>"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
>
>I value my cam and LCD. By chance, a single grain of sand got
>in behind the plastic cover and caused a tiny pit in the
>tempered glass of the LCD screen. I use my D700 daily, it pays
>the bills, and I need to keep it in top shape. My existing
>plastic cover has done the job of protecting that LCD screen,
>but now I seek something better.
>
>I just hope you never scratch, scuff, or even worse... break
>your LCD screen. The day it happens, you may regret your
>decision.
>
>Out of curiosity, do you have a protective filter on the front
>of your Nikkor lenses?
>
>Cheers,
>Frederic in Montréal
>
>Nothing ventured... nothing gained!
>http://www.RemarkableImages.ca


Lens filters? No, don't use them any more. If I am going to be at the beach or in blowing sand, then I would use one. I gave them up after thoughtfully considering the opinion of your countryman, Ted Grant. Also, I have seen used and abused lenses that the Philadelphia Inquirer was getting rid of. The lenses were beat to H%$L, but the glass was fine. Normal wear like cleaning marks. Also, I rented a lens one time that had a small chip in the front element. Didn't adversely affect my photos as I recall.

Regarding your experience with the sand grain. I would argue the plastic protector caused the problem by trapping the grain against the screen. I would also argue, but could be wrong, that the glass protectors used are no more scratch resistant than the tempered glass of the LCD screen itself. What happens if you scratch the protector? It isn't going to be easy to replace without damaging the screen.

I do not mean to try and tell anyone what to do. It is your equipment and livelihood. Not mine. Just expressing my opinion.

Regards,
Doug

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voyageurfred

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#20. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 19

voyageurfred Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Jun 2007
Sat 28-Aug-10 01:17 PM | edited Sat 28-Aug-10 02:20 PM by voyageurfred

"I do not mean to try and tell anyone what to do. It is your equipment and livelihood. Not mine. Just expressing my opinion."

No offense meant. I was just curious about your approach and philosophy about lens filters.

To be honest, I frequently remove mine, especially if the sun is in the frame, to reduce induced reflections.

That said, if the front element on the lens has scratches or faults, when closed down at f/22 and enlarged on my 23 inch screen, I'm able to see the imperections, be it out of focus. When pointed against a blue sky, dust on the sensor and dust within the lens elements becomes more evident too.

Dust will also create little bright spots, though not nearly as bad as hot pixels.

"I gave them up after thoughtfully considering the opinion of your countryman, Ted Grant."

Don't know the chap. Is he anothr Nikonian?

Cheers,
Frederic in Montréal

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Jersey Doug

Cinnaminson, US
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#21. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 20

Jersey Doug Gold Member Nikonian since 07th Jun 2007
Sat 28-Aug-10 01:51 PM

Ted grant is the photog who captured the famous photo of PM Trudeau ( I believe) sliding down a banister. Ted is a leicaphile, if anything. I used to follow him on the Leica Users Group when I owned Leicas. Very nice gentleman. He was one of Canada's top photojournalists before he retired.

I think Ted resides on Vancouver Island or near that area, though I never got the opportunity to meet him.

Here you go -- http://tedgrantphoto.com/Bio.htm

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voyageurfred

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#22. "RE: D700 LCD Screen" | In response to Reply # 21

voyageurfred Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Jun 2007
Sat 28-Aug-10 02:23 PM | edited Sat 28-Aug-10 02:23 PM by voyageurfred

"Ted grant is the photog who captured the famous photo of PM Trudeau (I believe) sliding down a banister."

I remember that photo... it still appears in the press here in Canada from time to time. There was also a retrospective on the Trudeau years on CBC Television a few years ago, where the image appeared too.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers,
F

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