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nhorvat2

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nhorvat2 Gold Member Nikonian since 05th Nov 2006
Sat 26-May-12 02:37 PM

Hello everyone,

A of yesterday I am a new owner of a D700. Since 2006 I bought and then sold D80 -> D200 -> D300 (twice) and now I was finally able to get the Dream.

My story and question: I bought a refurbished D700 from a very reputable store for $1,979. I choose to go with a refurbished vs new ($2,200) based on the past experience I had with refurbished products (lenses only).

The camera has 29,000 shutter actuation, which I think is a little bit too much for a refurbished, and for the price? Other than that the camera looks like new, you won't see any difference.

Ok, it's supposed to be a short post, so here we go: do I keep the camera or return it?

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n7vy

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n7vy Silver Member Nikonian since 11th Apr 2009
Sat 26-May-12 02:42 PM

I would return it. That is a used camera! A couple of hundred
activations would be alright but not that many.

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espeto68

Oeiras, PT
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espeto68 Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Aug 2010
Sat 26-May-12 05:15 PM

+1

I would return it as well.

I bought mine used, here in Portugal, with 8K clicks.

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ctadin

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ctadin Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2008
Sun 27-May-12 10:39 AM | edited Sun 27-May-12 10:39 AM by ctadin

What is the warranty for a refurbished vs new?
I agree with Jose, I would return it. I find it hard to believe a refurbished camera would have 29,000 actuations.

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nhorvat2

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nhorvat2 Gold Member Nikonian since 05th Nov 2006
Sun 27-May-12 12:04 PM

The warranty for a refurbished is 90 days. I think the new one has 1 year. But this is not a game changer for me. I know a 29k it's not a lot for a D700, but the price I paid I think is a little bit too much. If I knew the shutter actuation is 29k I would never buy it, period. The resale value will also be lower, in case I want to sale it later.

I'll wait until Tuesday when they re-open and try to speak with a manager, maybe I'll either get a good discount or just return it.
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GiantTristan

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GiantTristan Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006
Sun 27-May-12 02:10 PM | edited Sun 27-May-12 02:11 PM by GiantTristan

Price and mileage are far too high. I suggest you get a new specimen which is only slightly more expensive.

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espeto68

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espeto68 Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Aug 2010
Sun 27-May-12 03:05 PM

Here in Portugal, photographic equipmentt is extremly expensive.
When i was looking for an used D700, i wanted with less than 10k clicks, and i found one, used, with 8k, that cost me 1500€ (1877$ USD). The new ones cost 2400€ (3000$ USD). So i was lucky to find one LNIB for that price.
I know that 29k clicks that's not to much for a D700 (rated for 150k), but it does look to much to that range of price you payed.

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infamily

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infamily Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 10th Sep 2009
Sun 27-May-12 03:09 PM

if you decide to return and look for a used one, I have a d700 with less than 15000 clicks that I will be selling since i just got my d800. the camera will come with all original packing,extra battery and Markin L plate. I bought it new from local Nikon dealer. Let me know if you are interested.
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MattNord

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MattNord Registered since 03rd Mar 2012
Sun 27-May-12 06:11 PM

I'd return it too. I just got a used one from Samy's here in Santa Barbara for $1600. 4000 clicks, looks brand new in box with all paperwork. I wouldn't pay much more than that.

rubo

NL
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rubo Registered since 09th Mar 2011
Mon 28-May-12 07:23 AM

29k isn't much for this camera, but the price you payed is to high. Return it and buy a new one.

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TonyJ

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TonyJ Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Sep 2004
Mon 28-May-12 12:33 PM

If it works well, I'd ask for a price adjustment. 29K is barely broken in... It does seem deceptive to call it a refurb.

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MEMcD

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Tue 29-May-12 05:56 AM

I Ioan,

If you divide the price of a new D700 by the 150,000 cycle shutter life expectancy you get the cost per frame ($.01466) then multiply by 29,000 clicks the depreciation is $425.14 making the value of the camera $1773.86 which is a little more than $200.00 less than you paid not to mention the significantly reduced warranty period.

($2199.00 / 150,000 cycles = $0.01466 x 29000 = $425.14)
2199.00 - 425.14 = $1773.86
Given the numbers, I would return it and pay the $220.00 for a new one.
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Ed911

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Ed911 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Apr 2007
Tue 29-May-12 10:39 PM

I agree.

I wouldn't even consider a used, or referbished body over a new one for such a little difference.

Longer warranty

New, unused, unabused...zero acutations.

Sometimes, the ghosts never leave...after a camera is dropped, or has a mechanical issue...etc.

Just my thoughts.

I'd return it and buy a new one...period.


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nhorvat2

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nhorvat2 Gold Member Nikonian since 05th Nov 2006
Wed 30-May-12 12:13 PM

Thank you all for your help.

I did call the store and asked for a discount due to a high 'mileage'. This unit was directly from Nikon and unfortunately Nikon does not allow authorized dealers to reduce the price. I do believe them, Nikon outlet sells the refurbished D700 for the exact same price.

It will go back and I will look to get a new one. I am in contact with a different store and hopefully by noon I'll have my order placed.
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