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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Mon 19-Nov-12 03:53 AM

Some recent fly shots. All focus stacked.

Cheers
Leigh


1. Doli (long legged fly)

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2. Cranefly
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3. Hoverfly
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VR8

Ottawa, CA
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#1. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 0

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Thu 22-Nov-12 08:21 AM | edited Thu 22-Nov-12 08:22 AM by VR8

Incredible, I will have to explore focus stacking, although I imagine its a challenge in the field.

Victor

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EnEs63

Udon Thani, TH
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#2. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 1

EnEs63 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Nov 2012
Thu 22-Nov-12 02:38 PM

Awesome images Leigh, I must try harder!

May I ask; one assumes that in order to stack your shots the fly was dead or stunned?
If so, do you find your subjects laying around or buy them from specialists online?

The reason I ask is that one of my main problems is finding subjects that are good enough, (I.E. clean enough), to use...

R's
EnEs63

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#3. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 2

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Thu 22-Nov-12 07:09 PM

No all my subjects are alive and kicking, no killing or stunning necessary. Often I only get 2-3 frames in a sequence that I can stack but that pretty well doubles my DoF which is only about 0.5mm at f16 & 2.3x lifesize. I also shoot in bursts so I can get 3-4 frames per second which minimises subject movement between frames.

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Leigh

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EnEs63

Udon Thani, TH
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#4. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 3

EnEs63 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Nov 2012
Thu 22-Nov-12 07:56 PM

So let me get this right...

These shots are in the 'field' so to speak... and you are capturing the images by manually changing the focus within a burst of a few frames...?

... and there's me trying to get a good image using rails indoors!

Oh boy! lol...

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#5. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 4

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Thu 22-Nov-12 09:51 PM

Yes I shoot handheld and just move the camera back & forth while firing away

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Leigh

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VR8

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#6. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 5

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sat 24-Nov-12 10:26 AM | edited Sat 24-Nov-12 06:20 PM by VR8

Are there any lighting considerations with stacking?

I am using an SD-9 for higher recycling time, but only on single shot so far - I will need to try out the fast frame rate modes.


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EnEs63

Udon Thani, TH
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#7. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 5

EnEs63 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Nov 2012
Sat 24-Nov-12 06:10 PM

Fantastic....

Ok, I am off for a try!

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#8. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 6

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Sat 24-Nov-12 07:18 PM

I use the SB800 (with the extra battery) in manual mode and typically shoot at 1/32-1/16 power. I know once I get near 1/4 power recycle times start to slow significantly and shooting even 2 fps is practical at this power setting. Obviously with live subjects you want to try and capture images as quickly as you can to minimise subject movement so that's when recycle times become critical.

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Leigh

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#9. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 8

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sat 24-Nov-12 07:27 PM

Amazing! Handheld! Its below zero no so no bugs for a few months, but I can practice on other things. Your stuff is just amazing! Thanks.

Victor

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AartPapaya

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#10. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 7

AartPapaya Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Oct 2011
Sun 25-Nov-12 06:34 AM | edited Sun 25-Nov-12 06:36 AM by AartPapaya

And I thought I was the only one that is not stacking. It must take a lot of practicing to hand-hold the camera, shoot, refocus and make sure that you did not change the focus too much or too little. Finally, what is a good stack-program?
If I can take shots like this I will be over the moon.

Aart

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EnEs63

Udon Thani, TH
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#11. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 10

EnEs63 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Nov 2012
Sun 25-Nov-12 09:46 AM

Hi AartPapaya,

Leigh's work is truly superb.
I guess this hand-held approach is practice practice and more practice until it becomes a natural process so that he can respond and succeed with every opportunity?
He does mention he justs moves back and forth to effectively 'stack' his shots rather than change the focus via the lens...

As for a good stacking program I have just started using Photoshop CS6. I believe it can be done with previous versions?
It was a simple'ish process and I had success first time... It was easy to learn.

Quote; "If I can take shots like this I will be over the moon"...
Yes, same here. It is that level of achievement that inspires me to take it on as a challenge...

BTW, your username - AartPapaya... Has it got anything to do with Papaya from Thailand?

R's EnEs63

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#12. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 10

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Sun 25-Nov-12 07:28 PM

Hi Aart,
Plenty of macro shooters never use stacking and in fact some think it is cheating and refuse to use it because it violates the 'spirit' of photography (a bit like the attitude of many landscape shooters to the use of HDR). Most of my macros are just single frames and I only use stacking when I have opportunity (I don't purposely look to stack every subject I shoot). If I was just shooting at 1:1 I would not use stacking very often at all, however because I shoot above 2:1 most of the time, the extra depth of field afforded by stacking can be helpful, especially with large subjects.

When I shoot a stack handheld it is pretty well all done on muscle memory and for some of my refraction shoots I can shoot up to 50 frames in sequence without any gaps in the focus between frames. For live subjects I usually only use 2-3 frames and sometimes up to 6 if I can get that many without the subject moving too much.

There are a few stacking programs available. I use a free one called CombineZP which works quite well for me. Zerene seems to be the preferred program used by most 'stackers', however it does cost $100+ from memory. Helicon focus is another popular one but also costs around the $100 mark. I am pretty sure you can try these programs before you buy to see which one suits you best.

Cheers
Leigh

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VR8

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#13. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 12

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Sun 25-Nov-12 07:42 PM

Thanks for all this helpful information. One more question. In the message above you refer to "refraction shots" - not sure what that means.

Thanks.

Victor

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#14. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 13

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Mon 26-Nov-12 05:54 AM

>Thanks for all this helpful information. One more question.
>In the message above you refer to "refraction shots"
>- not sure what that means.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Victor
>
>My website: www.rakmilphotography.com

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VR8

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#15. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 14

VR8 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th May 2008
Mon 26-Nov-12 07:11 AM

Thanks those are spectacular.

Victor

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AartPapaya

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#16. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 14

AartPapaya Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Oct 2011
Tue 27-Nov-12 01:34 PM | edited Tue 27-Nov-12 01:41 PM by AartPapaya

Thank you for the information but even more for the inspiration. I will not even ask you about the reflection shot. I want to figure this out for myself.
The lighting in your controlled shots are also very special.

Aart

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#17. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 11

AartPapaya Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Oct 2011
Tue 27-Nov-12 01:39 PM

Hi R'sEn Es63,
The answer is a very simple, yes. I am a geneticist, breeding papaya in South Africa. I think however your name would be a much more interesting story.

Aart

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EnEs63

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#18. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 17

EnEs63 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Nov 2012
Tue 27-Nov-12 02:56 PM

AartPapaya...

Fascinating.... Papaya is my wife's favourite food ! A little too spicy for me though, when she prepares it Thai style...

You think my name is interesting... My username or my real name?

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Reilly M

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#19. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 0

Reilly M Registered since 25th Jul 2008
Fri 30-Nov-12 06:58 PM

His hiatus is over, HE'S BACK!

Man, are you able to stop your heart when you shoot these handheld?

SWEETNESS!

yours,
Reilly

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#20. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 19

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Sat 01-Dec-12 06:59 PM

Thanks Reilly

Was a bit slack this year with the refractions and never got round to doing any unfortunately.

Cheers
Leigh

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Yardley, US
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#21. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 0

af4nc Registered since 07th Jul 2007
Mon 03-Dec-12 09:18 PM

Nice job, well done

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phoridae

Monrovia, US
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#22. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 21

phoridae Registered since 26th Feb 2003
Sun 23-Dec-12 12:53 AM

Leigh,

Beautiful. Number 2 is a chironomid midge, not a crane fly, though.

Brian

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TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
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#23. "RE: A few flies" | In response to Reply # 22

TEITZY Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Registered since 14th Mar 2007
Wed 26-Dec-12 05:37 AM

Thanks Brian for the clarification on #2

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Leigh

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