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D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2

Gerard Pas

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Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Tue 05-Jun-12 07:54 PM | edited Wed 06-Jun-12 11:16 PM by Gerard Pas

Why not a few more Northern Oriole images as they are such delightfully beautiful birds.


Baltimore Oriole / Northern Oriole (Icterus galbula) male
During the spring migration at Rondeau Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada.



http://www.gerardpas.com/photo/birds/_DSC-0715_780.jpg


Nikon D800, AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f/2.8G IF-ED VR, TC-17E II
1/500s @ f/5.6, ISO 100, EV -0.7, aperture priority
Nikon SB 910, TTL EV -1.7, Flash extender
tripod, PS CS6 post processing



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Nikon D800, AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f/2.8G IF-ED VR, TC-17E II
1/400s @ f/5.6, ISO 100, EV -0.7, aperture priority
Nikon SB 910, TTL EV -1.7, Flash extender
tripod, PS CS6 post processing


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Dubes

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#1. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

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Tue 05-Jun-12 05:57 PM

Well done - outstanding Gerard, they look wonderful.

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#2. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 1

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Tue 05-Jun-12 06:06 PM | edited Tue 05-Jun-12 06:08 PM by Gerard Pas

Aah shucks, I'd kiss you if didn't have a beard Richard; hahaha

Don't hold your punches on me, even if I seem to be a bit touchy as I work through these issues with the D800.
It's back in the saddle or lay on the ground moaning; I'd rather moan while going somewhere instead of lying there not doing much more.
To quote the great American bard or is that beard "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." - Will Rogers

EDIT *** I've had to change my work flow entirely with this new rig and am still learning. ***

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#3. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 2

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Tue 05-Jun-12 10:52 PM

Cut it out Gerard - my wife is going to get jealous!
Whatever method you've developed, it's working.

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#4. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 3

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Wed 06-Jun-12 09:14 PM

Thanks Richard,

I learned the large D800 NEF (7,360px X 4,912px) 45MB has too much data to shrink to a very small JPEG at 1/10th of its size or 780px X 520px. I now resize a copy of the original NEF first before any conversion to JPEG.
I also learned that with all this data in the RAW file that very little if any sharpening can cause problems of compression, JPEG Artefacts, "rim lighting", so there is very little sharpening at all, at most maybe 12% in the original full size NEF and then another 2% when reduced to JPEG. The rest of my workflow remains the same as before.
It’s going to take me a bit more work in PP before I’m totally happy for posting to the web but it’s a start.

I did not buy the D800 with the web in mind but rather to print large size images and with all that data it works very well the other way in enlargement for print.

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#5. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 4

Robert OToole Registered since 14th Mar 2012
Thu 07-Jun-12 10:30 PM

Interesting comp in the top image. Good sharpness on both, good looking bird(s), enjoyed them.

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#6. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Thu 07-Jun-12 11:54 PM

Both shots are very nice Gerard. Love those silver legs and the bleached perch in #2! As an artist you handle negative space well, but you need a 500 with this camera.

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#7. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 6

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Fri 08-Jun-12 12:49 AM

Jim,
I'm waiting for you to get a 600mm or Gary Irwin to get a 800mm Canonoodle (as he says he plans to change his rig for wildlife shooting(?)
One way or another your right, I do need a 500mm! The loss of crop factor from DX to FX is hard on me, the birds aren't letting me get closer "Oh look he's shooting in FX and wearing a St. Francis of Assisi T-shirt, let him get 5 metres closer.": if only life were so simple.
In the meantime I'll make lemonade with the 300mm TC1.7 combo. Maybe I should be using my TC2.0 more?

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#8. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Baltimore Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 5

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Fri 08-Jun-12 12:51 AM

Thanks Robert, yes they are good looking birds.

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#9. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 7

Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Fri 08-Jun-12 01:16 AM

I haven't "talked" with Gary lately, but we're on the same wavelength. If I'm forced to FX I want an 800 f5.6, and I think Nikon's must be close. The Canon weighs only 9.9 pounds, but with their autofocus it's manual with a converter. Heck, if you could live with that (and a 7 meter MFD) you could pick up a Sigma 800 f5.6 for $6500. With Nikon's new autofocus we'd get full functionality with a TC-14E!

By the way, even with an 800 f5.6 I'd shoot the D800 in 1.2x crop mode much of the time.

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#10. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009
Fri 08-Jun-12 04:37 AM

Very beautiful birds, well captured and processed.

What kind of flash extender are you using? Do you mean a cable that lets you place the flash closer to the subject or an optical fresnel lens?

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#11. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

hawkie Registered since 22nd Mar 2008
Fri 08-Jun-12 08:18 AM

Great use of flash on these Gerard!

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Fri 08-Jun-12 10:21 AM

Lovely shots Gerard second one I love the perch and the pose. TFS

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#13. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 08-Jun-12 01:39 PM

Very nice, Gerard. In fact, the second one is truly stunning. Great work!

I got a great look at one early this morning--just 15 feet away--a clear look and pose at the top of a small tree. I was out jogging and didn't have my camera!@#$@#

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#14. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

Gert van der Kolk Silver Member Charter Member
Fri 08-Jun-12 04:54 PM

Very nice indeed Gerard. Love #1, because of the bird's POV and the background.

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#15. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 08-Jun-12 07:26 PM

Love #2
Im jealou, we all need hugs & kisses
Are thou still happy with the 800



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#16. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 10

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:44 AM

Thank you Antero,

I use the typical "better beamer" fresnel lens flash extender.

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#17. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 11

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:49 AM

Thanks Joey,

I use the flash a lot just to take out contrast even in full sunlight. With my D300 I used it even more to keep the ISO down as I hate grain / noise because I print many of these images large.

It not a hard concept to learn just make sure it doesn't look like it is flashed should be the mantra.

My friend Jim Pearce (above) really helped me learn the use of flash deep in the forest with Warblers; were you really have to have one.

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#18. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 12

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:50 AM

As always your very generous Pakku, thank you.

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#19. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 13

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:53 AM

Thanks Dan,

The idea of going for a run carrying all this gear is rather frightening. Some images are for the mind and others for the sensor. That said I've had my share of @#$@# moments so I'm with you.

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#20. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 14

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:55 AM

Bedankt Gert,
die zijn zeker prachtige vogels.

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#21. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 15

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Sat 09-Jun-12 11:58 AM

Preston,

If I'm ever down your way you'll get your share of XOXOX particularly if I get my lens on some of those splendid birds you come up with everyday.

D800 = don't know yet as I have had it just a little more than a month - I know I need a longer lens, bigger faster computer and a helluva a lot of disk space.

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Thank you my friend



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#23. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

CK Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2004
Sun 10-Jun-12 08:12 AM

Another couple great shots, Gerard. MY preference is for the first, but that may be because I'm partial to animals-in-their-habitat type of shots (maybe because the 300 f/4 is the longest lens I own). Still, the composition and combination of colours in #1 really "speaks" to me. Thanks for sharing.
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#24. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

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Wonderful images of such a beautiful bird. Thanks for sharing these taken with your new camera.

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#25. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

PRW Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Apr 2002
Sun 10-Jun-12 08:11 PM

Gorgeous shots Gerard! Your use of flash is perfect, as neither has the look of "Flash". A pleasure to view. Thanks for posting.

I'm glad to hear you found a way around the rim lighting issue.

Do you ever use the latest 2X telconverter with the 300mm on the D800? I have read mixed reviews, and some feel it is still softer than the 1.7X, although a lot better than the previous model, but I'm not sure I agree. I now use it with my 300/f2.8 nearly all the time. (The 1.7X now lives in a drawer somewhere.)

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#26. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 23

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Tue 12-Jun-12 12:36 AM

Thanks CK the 300mm f2.8 is my longest lens.

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#27. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 24

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Tue 12-Jun-12 12:37 AM

Thanks John it's always a pleasure.

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#28. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 25

Gerard Pas Registered since 10th Mar 2008
Tue 12-Jun-12 12:41 AM

Thanks Paul, that's the trick with a flash being very constrained to only get a little more detail from the dark areas.
I'm planning on trying my TC2 in the days to come and I'll let you know how it goes.

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#29. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 28

PRW Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Apr 2002
Tue 12-Jun-12 06:20 AM

Gerard, I hope the 300+TC2 combination works well for you

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#30. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

jot2nik Silver Member Nikonian since 11th Jul 2007
Sat 17-Nov-12 11:50 AM

Gerard, great images of a beautiful bird. Your use of the flash extender inspires me. I am trying to learn the use of flash extender.
Thanks for sharing.

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Sat 17-Nov-12 10:05 PM

Great series Gerard! Good seeing you again.

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Sun 18-Nov-12 12:25 PM

You keep giving all that love /kisses to the northerners - how about the rest of us!!!!!

Great shots as always.....



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#33. "RE: D800 – 300mm f2.8 VR - TC17E – Northern Orioles #2" | In response to Reply # 0

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Mon 19-Nov-12 02:19 AM

Gerard, new camera, same trusty lens combo, wealth of talent and excellent images. Many thanks for showing the class.
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Hi Paul - just Purchased the F4 300mm with 1.4 TC. Are u interested in selling the 1.7 if it works with my new combo?



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massulo Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning a Nikonians Annual Photo Contest Nikonian since 07th May 2002
Mon 19-Nov-12 07:26 PM

How strong are u to carry all that equiptment and live to tell about it.

No wonder the birds don't let u get close enough-- I would be scared too.. hahahahah



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C'est magnifique, Gerard!

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Very inspiring and challenging shots. Lots of valuable info, thanks!

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landism Registered since 22nd Oct 2011
Thu 22-Nov-12 09:23 AM

great captures!

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massulo Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning a Nikonians Annual Photo Contest Nikonian since 07th May 2002
Thu 22-Nov-12 01:54 PM

You really won't need the big guns in my community. They just walk up to you and sign a models release form. Lol
There are not many little guys here except cardinal



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etillona Registered since 26th Jul 2011
Fri 23-Nov-12 06:47 PM

I enjoyed your two images very much. I am curious on the use of the flash. How far was the bird from the flash? What do you mean about flash extender tripod? Does this mean that the flash itself was closer to the subject than the Camera position.

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