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FizzBang

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FizzBang Registered since 08th Jul 2012
Sun 29-Jul-12 06:55 PM

Hello to all Nikonians...

I have been looking into getting Pocket Wizards for off camera flash work.
The new pro III's get such a good review but I have two issues...

1/ I can see no means of fixing one to a tripod/hotshoe so do they end up dangling on the sync cable connected to the flash... Surely that can't be right?
2/ They do not support FP sync?

For the 'so-called' best on the market they dont offer these basic functions which the much cheaper ones do...?

Have I got this right?

Can anyone suggest a model that does a good job including the two points above?

gkaiseril

Chicago, US
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#1. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 0

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Sun 29-Jul-12 07:46 PM

1/ you can purchase a tripod hot/cold shoe mount of you can use some bungee cord loop with lock balls to lash the PW III to a tripod or light support.
2/ FP sync is part of the CLS system and would require the MiniTTL1 or the FlexTT5 device.

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FizzBang

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#2. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 1

FizzBang Registered since 08th Jul 2012
Mon 30-Jul-12 03:26 PM

Thank you George...

I will look into that.

gkaiseril

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#3. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 2

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Mon 30-Jul-12 07:52 PM

You could also hang the PW III by the lanyard, but that is not my first choice.

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wkilburg

Yorkville, US
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#4. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 3

wkilburg Registered since 03rd Apr 2011
Tue 31-Jul-12 03:13 PM

Flash zebra sells a cradle that is bungee corded to the stand and hold the pw3. I have used the provided lanyard with no problem and also rigged a mount using the 1/4-20 screw mount on the back side of the pw3. Lots of options. Truly how it hangs or mounts was never even one of those things that crossed my mind. There are so many ways of solving that issue.

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FizzBang

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#5. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 4

FizzBang Registered since 08th Jul 2012
Sun 05-Aug-12 03:06 PM

Thank you for all your input...

Yes, the mounting is not the most important issue with the Pocket Wizard Pro III...
As you say wkilburg, there are many solutions.

FP sync is more of a dissapointment...
The Pro III's are such a well designed, compact unit which would suit me well but FP sync is something I do use frequently...
I apprecaite other units from Pocket Wizard cover this feature but it becomes an added expense and item of kit when I wanted something small and simple.

The Phottix Oddyn system, which has the mount method and FP sync, looks pretty awesome...? Still waiting for the Nikon version to appear in UK yet though.
Have any of you tried this product in US?

wkilburg

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#6. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 5

wkilburg Registered since 03rd Apr 2011
Mon 06-Aug-12 10:41 AM

I have not personally tried the Odin set up from Phottix. I do like the company though and I gave it serious consideration. To me, the price of an Odin system that mirrors my PW Flex system (3 TT5's and a TT1) was not that much cheaper, especially when you factor in the recent rebate they offered. The ability to use the PW III's and use it with some packs with built in PW support sealed it. The Flex system works pretty well for me. I have used the Nikon FP Sync with it up to 1/2000 but have not tried PW's Hypersync yet. I recent picked up a Fuji X100 and with its leaf shutter I can sync manually at any speed with the right aperture. I will use it for most real high speed stuff. It's just easier.

I would not hesitate to go with the Odin if you can't use or will never need PW compatibility. Odin has been around for Canon for a while and it got super reviews, so far what I have read for the Nikon version has been good too. About the only drawback I could possibly see was the size of the on camera commander type unit but then the PW III isn't exactly tiny either. Good luck! Let us know how it works if you get it.

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shaynec

US
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#7. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 0

shaynec Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Jun 2009
Sun 12-Aug-12 02:31 PM

AS a neophyte I am hesitant to jump in here,but, I have the pw system on my d700 and pw recommends using the 1/250 auto FP setting. I use the ac3 controller and love it. I don't have to know anything about cls I just adjust the speedlights until they look right with the controller at your finger tips. Shayne

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Mreid64

Lake Jackson, US
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#8. "Pocket Wizards Triggering Manual Flash" | In response to Reply # 1

Mreid64 Registered since 29th Mar 2012
Sat 25-Aug-12 11:24 AM

I have a D800 and want to set up six manual strobes (Lumopro 160)to trigger wirelessly when I press the trigger on the camera (Hummingbird) photography. I think I put the transmitter in the shoe on the camera but I'm still not clear on is if I have to purchase a receiver for each of the six strobes.

gkaiseril

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#9. "RE: Pocket Wizards Triggering Manual Flash" | In response to Reply # 8

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Sat 25-Aug-12 03:19 PM | edited Sat 25-Aug-12 05:26 PM by gkaiseril

The Plus III uses transmits a coded RF signal, so unless your flash would need to have a builtin receiver module that can receive the the signal and decode it.

The Lumopro 160 does not appear to have such a module, so you will need a receiver for each unit.

Are you sure you can not use the buiitin flash on the D800 to trigger the LumoPro units?

Edited to add:
It is possible in an outdoor setting that the photoelectric sensors on the remote units could be blinded by sunlight so your built-in or camera mounted flash's trigger flash would not be detected.

You might also consider some cheap RF triggers systems. The PW system is expensive and offers more options than you need.

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scopeland

Rochester, US
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#10. "RE: Pocket Wizards Triggering Manual Flash" | In response to Reply # 8

scopeland Registered since 17th Apr 2009
Sat 25-Aug-12 05:09 PM

>I have a D800 and want to set up six manual strobes (Lumopro
>160)to trigger wirelessly when I press the trigger on the
>camera (Hummingbird) photography. I think I put the
>transmitter in the shoe on the camera but I'm still not clear
>on is if I have to purchase a receiver for each of the six
>strobes.

The LP160's have an optical slave trigger built in, so as long as you are able to fire one of the flashes, the others will react to the light and fire as well. I've got two LP160's that I use along side an SB900 (and sometimes SB600). I have PW TT5's on the camera and the SB900. The power of the LP160's have to be set manually, but I've had great luck having them fire when needed.

The two ways that I use them are as background or kicker lights in a small studio setup (where I have a pretty good feel for the power I need, and therefore don't have to fiddle with them too much) and then in a tri-flash bracket where again I will set them at a consistent power and then adjust the SB900 remotely to bring the overall light level up/down as needed.

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Mreid64

Lake Jackson, US
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#11. "RE: Pocket Wizards Triggering Manual Flash" | In response to Reply # 10

Mreid64 Registered since 29th Mar 2012
Sat 25-Aug-12 06:34 PM

Thank you for your help.

DinoCardelli

Plantation, US
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#12. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 7

DinoCardelli Registered since 19th Oct 2010
Sat 25-Aug-12 11:27 PM | edited Sat 25-Aug-12 11:42 PM by DinoCardelli

I recently made the move to PW...hook line and sinker..

I got this thing for demo videos I guess

I bought the TT1, and 4 TT5's...along with the AC3 controller...combined together, it' works like "budder"..

I own two 910's, one 900 and one 600 along with two SD-9 battery packs...

You literally have fulll control of everything...no worry about light flashes from the CLS system..it jus works as demo'd...

now is it expensive......as Jack Nicholson said in a "Few Good Men"..

Da&^m Right it is....

But, for me, and what i want to do...e.g. plug it in and it works...the system does a great job..

Go to PW website and watch a few videos...it's just like they said...

Now, I'm going to Alien Bees' and with the AC9 controller and my TT5's, I can use the AB's under full control...

Another benefit....this will allow me to combine a strobe system with a full studio light operation....

Personally, I think you get what you pay for....

BTW, as a final note, called PW about some items on how to set this up( AB's) and their customer service was great..the tech spent 20 minutes going over all the details...

Yeah, he was from the US and spoka-da-good english

Here's a shot with PW and Nikon Strobes..

Storbist:

SB 900 on Hair light on boom top left of model
SB 910 in a 30x30 lastolite soft box
SB 901 in a Firefly octabox as a catch light
used the AC3 controll with the TT1 and TT5's on the strobes..

Was able to adjust power on the fly...



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gkaiseril

Chicago, US
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#13. "RE: Pocket Wizards..." | In response to Reply # 5

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Sun 26-Aug-12 03:18 PM

PW is a company that makes manual flash and camera triggers and units for Nikon's iTTL and Canon's eTTL systems. The MiniTT1 and FlexTT5 fit in the camera's hot shoe.

There are also links to the instructions and videos.

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