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Topic subjectTeleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
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9743, Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
Posted by briantilley, Tue 06-Feb-07 12:29 PM
, we want to gather as much practical information as possible about what works and what doesn't, to help in preparing version 2 of the chart.

So, please make a post in this thread if you have one or more TC's, and give as much detail about how it works with different lenses (and cameras).

It would help if you made one post for each TC that you try, and put the brand and model of TC in the title. Then tell us:

The brand and full model name each lens you have tried it with;
The type (and firmware level, if a DSLR) of each Nikon camera you have tried it with.

For each combination you try, it would be good to know:

How many contacts (front and rear) the TC has;
Whether the TC has the "screwdriver" AF connection;
Whether it physically mounts to the lens (BE CAREFUL in case the lens elements collide);
Whether AF works, tries to work and fails, or does not even try to work;
Whether VR works (with a VR lens);
Whether the EXIF data (and camera display) shows the actual focal length and max. aperture of the lens, or the "adjusted" figures.

There is no need to comment on image quality and so forth.

Thanks very much in advance, everyone - over to you... :)
9744, Kenko 3x Teleplus Pro 300
#1, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by jdbower, Tue 06-Feb-07 01:40 PM
I guess I'll get the party started!

Model: Kenko 3x Teleplus Pro 300
Front contacts: 10
Rear contacts: 8
Screwdriver connection: yes
Camera: Nikon D200
Firmware: 2.0



12-24mm Nikkor50mm F1.4 Nikkor105mm VR Micro-Nikkor18-200mm VR Nikkor80-400mm VR Nikkor10.5mm Fisheye-Nikkor58mm Noct-Nikkor
Lens MountsYes(1)YesYesYes(1)YesYesWhat am I, crazy? :)(1)
AFFail(2)YesFail(2)Fail(2)Attempt(3)YesN/A
EXIF Focal LengthUnmodifiedUnmodifiedUnmodifiedUnmodifiedUnmodifiedUnmodifiedN/A
VR(4)N/AN/AYesYesN/AYesN/A


1. Rear element warning - when zoomed to the minimum focal length the rear element *MAY* collide with the TC element, assemble at your own risk!
2. My AF-S lenses would attempt to focus, but quickly fail and shutdown the camera with a battery alarm. The battery alarm didn't when the body was in MF mode.
3. The lens would not AF on a high-contrast subject inside, but will focus for solar and lunar photography. This is academic as MF is *much* easier.
4. VR produces an audible click and is noticeable in viewfinder - not an indication of VR performance.

I am rather amused that you can use the 10.5mm fisheye with a TC. Of course, most of these lenses don't make much sense to use with a TC, the only lens worth it's salt with a TC is the 80-400mm and then only if you can use MF (and chimp to verify focus - the viewfinder is *DARK*). Let me know if I can provide anything else.

Jeff Bower
I wish my D200 body was a significant portion of my NAS-related expenses...
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9745, SIGMA APO 1.4X EXDG
#5, in response to Reply # 1
Posted by Telecorder, Wed 07-Feb-07 09:54 AM
Model: SIGMA APO 1.4X EX DG
Front contacts: 10
Rear contacts: 10
Screwdriver connection: NO
Camera: Nikon D50
Firmware: 1.0


35mm f/2D Nikkor18-70mm F3.5-4.5 DX
Nikkor
70-300 f/4-5.6 LD Macro Tamron50-500mm-Sigma APO EX 'Bigma' non-DG
Lens
Mounts
NONONOYes(1)
AF---------NO
EXIF Focal Length---------Reports Modified


1. Rear element warning - Must have zoom locked above 100mm for mounting

Telecorder
'Love my D50+Bigma'
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9746, 1.4X TELEPLUS PRO 300 KENKO N-AFd DG
#2, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by jsa, Tue 06-Feb-07 06:12 PM
Model: 1.4X TELEPLUS PRO 300 KENKO N-AFd DG
Camera side (rear): 8 contacts
Lens side (front): 10 contacts
Screwdriver connection: yes
Camera: Nikon D200
Firmware: 2.0.0
Trial Conditions : Indoor, Targeted at black writing on white business card against black background at 3m distance. Matrix metering reports 1/4sec, F5.6 at ISO 400 for lens only. 1/2sec, F5.6 ISO 400 with TC fitted.


28mm F1.4 AFD Nikkor50mm F1.8 AFD Nikkor18-200 VR Nikkor70-300mm VR Nikkor
Lens MountsJust (1)YesYes (2)Yes
Focus (3)Yes AFDYes AFDYes AFS Yes AFS
EXIF Focal Length AperatureUnmodifiedUnmodifiedUnmodified (4)Unmodified (4)
VRN/AN/AYes (5)Yes (5)


1. REAR ELEMENT WARNING - when focused to infinity the rear element may collide with the TC element. My sample of the lens and TC have barely 0.3mm clearence at infinity using the MANUAL focus ring.

Risk far outweighs the non existent benefit.

Production tolerances unknown.
Auto focus unknown.

Proceed at your own risk!

2. REAR ELEMENT WARNING - when zoomed to 18mm Focal length. My sample of the lens and TC have 0.7mm clearence between elements at 18mm.

Production tolerances are unknown, yours may not clear, proceed at your own risk!

3. With TC fitted and camera AF Mode S,
focus is aquired under the above conditions with a small amount of additional hunting for F5.6 lenses. With an additional 6 stops of light AF performed very similar with or without the TC. The faster F1.8 lens did not hunt with TC fitted under the above conditions.

With TC fitted and camera AF mode C,
focus is aquired with a lot of hunting under the above conditions for F5.6 lenses. An additional 6 stop of light decrease the hunting to a level slightly greater than without TC. The faster F1.8 lens did not hunt with TC fitted under the above conditions.

I only tried the F1.4 AF once from minimum focus setting at a distance of 1m to the target while ready to disengage AF-D drive. It focused without hunting, I have taken two asprin and am going to bed !! I have no wish to find out if motor drive moves the rear element closer to the TC than manual use of the focus ring. _DON'T DO IT_

4) All 4 lense reported actual lens focal length and aperature, unadjusted for the TC.

The literature included with the TC states the reported focal length is adjusted for the TC, for built-in motor lenses. The 2 AFS lenses did not work that way, they were unadjusted as per AFD.

5) Audibly working for both 18-200VR and 70-300VR with TC fitted.

Visually my perception through the viewfinder,

* for the 18-200VR, VR is slightly less effective with the T/C but certainly still damping vibrations. I suspect the instability vs panning threshold is being reached sooner so understandably less is being damped.

* for the 70-300VR I wasn't picking up any obvoius difference. VR appeared unaffected to my eyes.




I only expext to use the TC on my 70-300VR and think it is worth its salt with this lens too.

Veiwfinder brightness is OK for me with only 1 stop loss for this 1.4X.

My only gripe is unadjusted EXIF data for my 2 AFS lenses, contrary to manufacturer claim, which is apparently not confined to my sample of lenses and TC.

No battery issues of other errors.

Cheers

John
9747, Nikon AF-S TELECONVERTER TC-14EII
#18, in response to Reply # 2
Posted by jsa, Tue 24-Apr-07 03:36 AM
Model: Nikon AF-S TELECONVERTER TC-14EII
Camera side (rear): 10 contacts
Lens side (front): 10 contacts
Screwdriver connection: no
Camera: Nikon D200
Firmware: 2.0.0

Trial Conditions : Indoor, Targeted at A1 size white sheet with black converging lines and writing

Matrix metering reports 1/125sec @ F5.6 to 1/30 @ F11 using ISO 400. (unadjusted aperatures)

Lens Tested : AF-S Nikkor 70-300mm VR ED F/4.5-5.6

Lens Mounts : Only if selective mount tag is removed from the TC-14E

Focus : AF-S only. Focus hunts a little bit before settling for focus mode S

VR : Audibly working, visually through the viewfinder I wasn't picking up any obvoius difference. VR appeared unaffected to my eyes.

EXIF : Unmodified for aperature and focal length

Compared to the Kenko in post 2 above, on my 70-300mm VR, the TC-14EII is slightly sharper everywhere and gives slightly less CA.

Cheers

John
9748, RE: 1.4X TELEPLUS PRO 300 KENKO N-AFd DG
#19, in response to Reply # 2
Posted by raymondox, Tue 08-May-07 02:34 PM
Just thought I'd add that I use the Kenko 1.4 as described here with the 70-300VR with no problems. It does tend to take a short time for AF to kick in properly at 300mm but still works adequately.
9749, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#3, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by Len Shepherd, Wed 07-Feb-07 09:38 AM
Using a D200 body
the Nikon "e" converters AF (VR where appropriate) and report the adjusted aperture with 500 f4 AF-s, 300 f2.8 VR, 300 f4 AF-s, 200 f2 VR, 105 VR, 200-400 VR and (at your own risk as elements collide at some zoom settings) the 17-35 AF-s and 28-70 AF-s.
The Kenko Pro 1.4 (mine is pre DG) works identical on the above lenses.
The Kenko Pro 1.4 supports AF and reports the adjusted aperture on the 24-120 VR, 12-24 AF-s and 17-55.
The Kenko Pro 1.4 supports AF and VR on the 18-200 VR, and 70-300 VR but does not report the adjusted aperture.
F100, F5 and F6 seem the same as D200 except I have not checked DX lenses on them.
Note the 105 VR reports a modified aperture (using command dial for setting aperture) when focused closer than infinity.
I do not have a TC14e with the tab machined off but it looks to me there is enough space on the 70-300 VR for a modified TC 14e to fit.
9750, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#4, in response to Reply # 3
Posted by briantilley, Wed 07-Feb-07 09:47 AM

>The Kenko Pro 1.4 supports AF and reports the adjusted
>aperture on the 24-120 VR, 12-24 AF-s and 17-55.
>The Kenko Pro 1.4 supports AF and VR on the 18-200 VR, and
>70-300 VR but does not report the adjusted aperture.

That's very interesting, though it blows one of my earlier theories ;) Thanks, Len!
9751, RE: Brian needs more feedback please
#6, in response to Reply # 4
Posted by Len Shepherd, Wed 14-Feb-07 02:56 PM
- I do not have the 18-70, 18-135 or 18-55. If anyone has them and a Kenko what does the readout report about the aperture?
If no-one gives feedback Brian cannot produce a comprehensive update :(
Also - has anybody tried a modified TC14e on the 70-300 VR? My guess is it should fit and work - but guesses are not good enough for a Nikonians update.

9752, RE: Brian needs more feedback please
#7, in response to Reply # 6
Posted by benveniste, Wed 14-Feb-07 03:38 PM
On ad D200, Kenko 1.4x and 18-70mm reports adjusted aperture, ranging from f/5 to f/6.3.


9753, RE: Brian needs more feedback please
#11, in response to Reply # 6
Posted by JGVilla, Fri 02-Mar-07 03:44 PM
Also - has anybody tried a modified TC14e on the 70-300 VR?
My guess is it should fit and work - but guesses are not good enough for a Nikonians update.


Sorry I missed this thread. To busy otherwise. I have a Kenko 1.4 Pro and a modified Nikon TC-17Eii.

I have not yet found time to extensively test the modified TC-17Eii (tab removed).
It now works on the new 70-300AFS f/4.5-5.6 although the exif data is not "updated".
So a modifed TC-14Eii should work exactly the same (I guess).

The modified TC-17Eii also fits on my old AI lenses (only tested the 105 AI micro so far)
but you have to be careful regarding collision of the protruding part of the TC-17Eii and the rear glass in the lens.

If I find the time I'll report further.

Regards

-Jan-

9754, RE: Brian needs more feedback please
#12, in response to Reply # 11
Posted by JGVilla, Sat 03-Mar-07 01:14 PM
As promised some additional data regarding the use of teleconverters on my lenses. Camera used Nikon D2X.

First of all my old AI- Nikkors:

AI'd 24mm f/2.8 - AIS 28mm f/2.8 - AI 35mm f/2.0 - AI 50mm f/1.8
AIS 55mm f/2.8 micro - AI 105mm f/4.0 micro - AI 135mm f/2.8

Kenko TC1.4 Pro:
All AI-lenses fit on Kenko TC1.4 Pro except the 24mm f/2.4 (is blocked) and the 50mm f/1.8 (rear glas will collide).
Others all OK. EXIF as set by "menu" on D2X. No update for use of TC.
This info just for the record. Only lens of use with Kenko TC1.4 is the AI 105mm f/4.0 micro.

Nikon TC-17Eii (modified):
Non of the above lenses fit (lens entrance too small or glass collision) except again for the AI 105mm f/4 micro.
Unrestricted use of this lens. EXIF not updated for use of teleconvertor (is standard behavior for non-CPU lenses).

Next the AF-S lenses tested:

Kenko TC1.4 Pro:
AFS 12-24mm f/4 - very close fit (< 0.8mm). Not tested.
AFS 17-55mm f/2.8 - OK. EXIF is updated for use of teleconvertor and focal length. Autofocus slow but OK.
AFS 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 - very close fit (< 0.8mm) Not tested.
AFS 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 - OK, but no update for EXIF. Autofocus slow but OK.
AFS 105VR micro f/2.8 - OK, EXIF is updated for use of teleconvertor and focal length. Autofocus slow but OK.

Nikon TC-17Eii (modified):
AFS 12-24mm f/4 - no fit, collision of glass
AFS 17-55mm f/2.8 - no fit, collision of glass
AFS 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 - no fit, collision of glass
AFS 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 - OK, but no update for EXIF. Autofocus practicallly unusable.
AFS 105VR micro f/2.8 - OK, EXIF is updated for use of teleconvertor and focal length. Autofocus practicallly unusable.

Hope you can use these data (especially the modified TC-17Eii for which I removed the restrictor tab).

Best regards

-Jan-

some editorial changes
9755, RE: Brian needs more feedback please
#13, in response to Reply # 12
Posted by JGVilla, Sun 04-Mar-07 04:26 AM
More information

Teleconverters can not only be used as "focal length increasers".
They are in fact "multiplyers", so with lens set at infinity they multiply focal length.
But with lens set at closests focusing range they multiply magnification.

The Kenko TC1.4 Pro can be used on all extension tubes both from Kenko as well as from Nikon (pre-AI tubes not tested).
Lens focal length and minimum aperture can be set in the D2X and combination works as any non-CPU lens.
This also is true for the Nikon Bellows (I tested the PB-4).
Only addtional point: NO reports from lens via bellows to D2X so you have to set actual aperture under CPU data in the D2X.

The MODIFIED Nikon TC-17Eii works the same!.

Of course in such a set up you can only use non-CPU or D-type lenses. Use of g-type lenses is possible with both TC's but you can only use Kenko tubes.
The Kenko TC14 can be mounted on the camera side as well as the lens side,
whereas the Nikon TC17-Eii can ONLY be mounted on the rear of the lens (not into the rear of the Kenko tubes - entrance of Kenko tubes too small).

For the (quick) tests I used:
D2X + PN11 + TC14 or TC17 + AI-lens;
D2X + Kenko Tubes + TC14 or TC17 + PB4 + AI-lens.
Of course a zillion other combinations are possible.
Actually modifying the TC-17Eii is most useful for macro work.

Hope this helps.

-Jan-

9756, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#8, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by cricketer 1, Wed 14-Feb-07 03:57 PM

Kenko x1.4 Teleplus Pro 300 (N-AFs)

Lenses. AF Nikkor 180mm f2.8 ED lens and AF Nikkor 300mm f4 ED lens. (not AF-S)
Camera. Nikon D200 with Vs 2.0

Camera displays all shooting info as usual.
EXIF data was displayed in review mode as was aperture selection as if it was just the prime lens mounted.
(Above lenses also worked the same on my previous Nikon D70)
Contacts. 8 contacts on camera side and 10 on lens side.
Mechanical tolerances (camera to Kenko to each lens) nice and tight.
AF worked as quickly usual in single and continuous focus modes on both lenses
at 100 & 400ASA indoors and outdoors in relatively poor light. If there was a difference in focus speed with and w/o Kenko mounted, It was not noticeable.

Note. Nikon did not/does not offer a compatible teleconverter with AF and aperture features for it's Nikkor AF lenses, so I purchased the Kenko for use with my now defunct D70. I also tried the Sigma x1.4 teleconverter in the store with the D70, metering worked, but AF did not.
9757, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#33, in response to Reply # 8
Posted by Christopher Ahle, Fri 21-Sep-07 11:47 AM
More on the Kenko x1.4 Teleplus Pro 300 ...
On my D80 (Firmware 1.01) it works with both the AF 300 1:4 ED and the AF 180 1:2.8 ED as described by cricketer 1 in message 10.
On my D40x (Firmware 1.00) it doesn't work, the camera displaying "lock aperture ring" (which was locked).
I switched several time between both cameras to see if the results were consistant, what they were.
9758, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#9, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by newbird, Tue 20-Feb-07 05:31 PM
I have the Sigma 1.4X and 2X DG EX teleconverters. Obviously, they work very well with my Sigma 120-300 F/2.8. However, what I want to present here is the fact that they also work extremely well with my astronomy telescope Televue 85 (600 APO f/7). Obviously, this is fixed aperture and manual focus, but the result is very high quality and no physical problem to use the TCs together with this telescope.

Regards,

Yvan
9759, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#10, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by yndigegn, Sun 25-Feb-07 05:43 AM
:

F75 and D70 ( any firmware) and D200 ( any firmware ) :

Autofocus works.
Focal length is corrected on camera and in file. Not F75 of course.
Aperture is corrected on camera and in file.

Sigma 2X EX APO ( not DG ) used with Sigma 80-400 f4.5-5.6 APO OS ( not DG ) :

F75 and D70 ( any firmware) and D200 ( firmware 2.0.0 ) :

Autofocus does not work.
Focal length is corrected on camera and in file. Not F75 of course.
Aperture is corrected on camera and in file.
VR works.

D200 ( firmware 1.0.1 ) :

Autofocus does work. Reliable at short end. Requires good light at long end to avoid activating a low speed creep mode.
Focal length is corrrected on camera and in file.
Aperture is corrected on camera and in file.
VR works.

Regards
Yndigegn

9760, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#14, in response to Reply # 10
Posted by bill500, Thu 22-Mar-07 05:43 PM
Kenko-Tokina 1.4X Teleplus Pro 300 N-AFs Color: light gray

Lenses I've tried it on: 35-70 3.3-4.5 AF, 135 2.8AI, 300 f/4 EDIF AF, 60 micro, 18-70 3.3-4.5 G DX AF-S, Sigma 70-200 2.8HSM, Sigma 150 2.8HSM Macro

Number of contacts lens side 10 camera side 8

Screwdrive AF: yes, but slower than without TC

AF-S: Yes, but AF malfunctions severly with both Sigmas. On Nikon 18-70 3.5-4.5 G AF-S DX, it works great.

Adjusted aperture displayed: only with Nikon 18-70

Vignetting with 300 f4 at f/4 on 35mm-should not be a problem with DX

The only lens where image quality suffered is the 35-70. The loss of resolution was almost negligible on the others.

Image quality is it's strong point. And AF-S with Sigmas were a no go.
9761, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#16, in response to Reply # 14
Posted by s1m0n, Wed 11-Apr-07 04:46 AM
Ditto what Bill500 wrote above.

I also use it with the Nikkor 80-200/2.8 AF-D two touch, non-AFS lens - works fine, but slower AF and 'unadjusted' aperture and focal length given. Also works great, but same caveats, with the Nikkor 85/1.8 AFD and Tamron 90/2.8 AF.

2x Kenko Pro300 - AF-d, black colour - this is the older none AFS compatible 2x version of above:
Works as above with 85/1.8, 90/2.8 and 80-200/2.8 AF-D, although makes AF basically unusable. Have not tried it with my AFS 18-70, but know that it certainly won't AF.

Simon
9762, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#15, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by brianlr, Sun 25-Mar-07 07:53 AM
The following probably confirms much of what others have found with a few additions

Models:
Kenko 2x Teleplus MC7 DG
Kenko 2x Teleplus Pro 300
Kenko 1.4x Teleplus Pro 300

Front contacts: 10
Rear contacts: 8
Screwdriver connection: yes
Camera: Nikon D70
Firmware: 2.0

Lenses:
18-70mm F3.5-4.5G Nikkor

100mm F3.5 Digital Macro Vivitar

70-300mm F4-5.6G Nikkor

70-300mm F4.5 – 5.6 VR Nikkor

80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-XD Tokina

AF works with all combinations except for 70-300VR which only works with 1.4 x

EXIF data unmodified for all lenses except for 18-70mm Nikkor









9763, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#17, in response to Reply # 15
Posted by Len Shepherd, Wed 11-Apr-07 01:51 PM
>Kenko 2x Teleplus MC7 DG
snipped
>Front contacts: 10 Rear contacts: 8
If this is right it is interesting.
I have not seen a recent MC7 but part of the reason for it's low price was it did not support AF with AF-s lenses and did not have the extra contacts.
If the MC7 now has 10 and 8 contacts it should AF with AF-s lens, the difference between the "300" being lower grade optics with fewer elements.


9764, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#20, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by Walker66, Sun 20-May-07 05:30 AM
Hi,

My observation so far for these two lenses/TC:s.
My other lenses are not sutable for TC:s nor dare i try due to protruding lens elements!


1.
Sigma APO TC 2x EX
10 front contacts, 10 rear contacts
NO screwdriver

Sigma 150mm F/2.8 APO Macro DG HSM D
- shows actual focal length on camera
- shows actual aperture on camera
- no AF
- mounts ok

Nikkor AF-D 80-200mm F/2.8 ED
- do not show actual focal length on camera
- do not show actual aperture on camera
- no AF
- mount ok


2.
Kenko 1.4x TELEPLUS PRO 300 DG - N-AFD
10 front contacts, 8 rear contacts
HAVE screwdriver

Nikkor AF-D 80-200mm F/2.8 ED
- do not show actual focal length on camera
- do not show actual aperture on camera
- AF works ok
- mount ok

Sigma 150mm F/2.8 APO Macro DG HSM D
- do not show actual focal length on camera
- do not show actual aperture on camera
- AF work ok
- mounts ok


Tom
9765, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#21, in response to Reply # 20
Posted by briantilley, Sun 20-May-07 05:37 AM

>Sigma APO TC 2x EX
>10 front contacts, 10 rear contacts
>NO screwdriver

Thanks, Tom.

Can I ask a follow-up...? The Sigma APO 1.4x EX that I owned did have the screwdriver connection, but I know that some do not. Is your Sigma TC a "DG" version, and do you know how old it is?

Thanks!
9766, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#22, in response to Reply # 21
Posted by Walker66, Sun 20-May-07 10:04 PM
Hi Brian,

This TC is not designated DG but it is however a newer version without the srewdriver bought new in spring 2005.
It transfers all significant information as actual focal length and aperture when coupled to my Sigma 150mm macro lens which is great but do not AF.
I expect that the newer ones designated DG are the same TC possibly with different coating for digital?!

Hope this helps you.

Br.
Tom
9767, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#23, in response to Reply # 22
Posted by briantilley, Mon 21-May-07 01:18 AM
Thanks, Tom. Your experience confirms what we thought was the case - Sigma altered their TC's by removing the screwdriver connection before they released the DG version.
9768, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#24, in response to Reply # 23
Posted by Dijkie, Mon 21-May-07 02:48 PM
Hi Brian,

Just to confirm what you already know.....
I have 2 Sigma Apo 2x EX tc's, 1 with and 1 without the srewdriver. I came across this thread trying to find out the differences between these two (the non-srewdriver came with a Nikon 300mm f/4 AF which I just bought). The exterior is identical (but the srewdriver version has a serial number), de rear is (almost) identical but the frontelement of the non-srewdriver version has a large ring around it (like the DG).

I've tested them on a D100 with the Nikon 300mm f/4...
The only difference: NO AF with the non-screwdriver one!

If you want more info (or pictures), please let me know.
I thought de non-screwdriver one was only MF, but I now begin to think that AF works on some newer lenses... Can you confirm that? Thanx, Mark.
9769, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#25, in response to Reply # 24
Posted by briantilley, Tue 22-May-07 12:08 AM
Welcome to Nikonians, Mark!

>I thought de non-screwdriver one was only MF, but I now
>begin to think that AF works on some newer lenses... Can you
>confirm that?

Yes, the non-screwdriver version gives AF with lenses that have their own focus motor, like AF-S Nikkors and HSM Sigmas, as long as the combined aperture is wider than f/5.6.
9770, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#26, in response to Reply # 25
Posted by Dijkie, Tue 22-May-07 04:49 PM
Hi Brian,

Thank you for your answer! Mark


9771, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#27, in response to Reply # 26
Posted by scheimpluger, Sun 27-May-07 08:57 PM
Model: Tamron SP AF 300F-FNs 2X
Camera side (rear): 8 contacts
Lens side (front): 10 contacts
Screwdriver connection: no
Camera: Nikon D80
Firmware:

Lens Used: AF-S Nikkor ED 80-200mm 1:2.8
Displays corrected aperture on camera
Works in MF Mode.
AF sometimes, and slightly slower AF. I assume the contacts are not lined up precisely so you may have to rock the lens for AF to work. Lens makes very slight but continuous clicking sound.

WARNING: May not be fully compatible and may damage the lens or camera electronics. Not recommended!

Lens Used: Tamron 70-300mm
Works in Manual mode only. No Aperture info sent to camera.


9772, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#28, in response to Reply # 27
Posted by scheimpluger, Sun 27-May-07 09:11 PM
Model: Tamron-F AF N-AF BBAR MC7
Camera side (rear): 7 contacts
Lens side (front): 7 contacts
Screwdriver connection: yes
Camera: Nikon D80
Firmware:

Lens Used: Tamron 70-300mm LD DI Macro f/4-5.6
Lens Inf not sent to Camera or only flashes sometimes. Camera fails with ERR message.

WARNING: Do not use this combination on Digital SLR Cameras as it may damage camera electronics.

Lens Used: Tokina ATX Pro 80-200mm 2.8
VERY Very Very SLOW AF. AF Works if light bright. Significant hunting as contrast affected by loss of light.

Warning: May be a waste of money.
12911, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#37, in response to Reply # 20
Posted by Pamela, Mon 28-Jan-08 01:16 PM
Greetings All ~

Please excuse me, I am new to this site. I have what I believe to be a simple question regarding teleconverters. I had a Nikon N50 but am currently using a Nikon D80. My question is this: are there any teleconverters that will work on my lenses. I have a 18-135 DX 18-135 1.35 5.6 GED AF-S as well as a 70 - 300 AF 1:4 - 5.6D. Would someone be kind enough to let me know what if any of the teleconverters would work?

Thank you for your time ~

Pamela
9773, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#29, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by jazmo, Fri 06-Jul-07 05:59 PM
I have a Nikkor 300 f2.8 AF-S Mk 1 lens that has interesting behavior with the TC-17EII I have seen reported before, but only once or twice.

In combination, the camera (both a D200 (firmware A2.00, B2.00) and D70 (firmware A2.00, B2.00)) reports the photo to be shot with a 700mm focal length lens. The EXIF data reports 700mm, as well.

When used with another "compatible" lens, a 70-200 f2.8 AF-S VR, the combination reports the proper focal length.

When used with another TC (TC-200EII), the lens / camera combinations report FL correctly.

In all cases, the camera reports the proper aperture, and the exposures are perfect.

When I called Nikon support about it, they said they had never heard of it. So I don't know if it is true about all 300/2.8 AF-S Mk1 + TC17EII or just a few.

Jonathan
9774, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - TC-16A
#30, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by em_user, Thu 26-Jul-07 09:38 AM
I quickly scanned the PDF and this thread and didn't notice the TC-16A listed. I have this teleconverter and use it with a N2020 body. The inner lenses move inside the TC-16A to provide pseudo AF to manual focus lenses. I've personally used it with all series E lenses except the 36-72mm and the 135mm (the only two I've never owned. I've also tried it on a Nikon EM and it mounts and magnifies fine but of course the elements do not autofocus. Perhaps others can chime in with more detail about this one.

Further information can be found here: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/teleconverter/tc16a/index.htm
9775, Sigma 1.4X
#31, in response to Reply # 30
Posted by torags, Wed 08-Aug-07 06:56 PM
Sigma 1.4X DG APO AF

Does not mount on a Tamron 200-500


9776, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#32, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by Delta5, Sun 19-Aug-07 01:21 PM
TC Model: Sigma APO 1.4X EX DG
Front contacts: 10
Rear contacts: 10
Screwdriver conn: No

Camera: Nikon D80 (Firmware: 1.01)

Lens: Nikkor 70-300mm VR f4.5-5.6 AFS G
TC mounts: Yes (1)
AFS: Yes (2)
VR: Yes
EXIF Foc. length: shows unmodified

(1) TC / lens mounting should be done carefully to ensure that the TC seats properly inside the rubber dust seal on the lens.
(2) In good light and on ideal targets AFS works well, but in dimmer light and with less contrasty subjects it tends to hunt more than without the TC.

Dave
My Nikonians Gallery
15267, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#49, in response to Reply # 32
Posted by SUN RA KAT, Tue 20-Jan-09 06:37 AM
TC Model: Nikon TC-14E modified (tab removed)
Front contacts: 10
Rear contacts: 10
Screwdriver conn: No

Camera: Nikon D70, D300, D700
Lens: Nikkor 70-300mm VR f4.5-5.6 AFS G
TC mounts: Yes
AFS: Yes
VR: Yes
EXIF Foc. length: shows unmodified

IQ even stopped down is very close to cropping photo - hard to tell which is better. Focus does slow down especially at 300mm, so using 70-300mm VR lens and cropping is best choice.
9777, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - Quantaray 2X DG
#34, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by Lehocki, Mon 19-Nov-07 07:36 AM
I have a D80
Lenses: 1. AF-S Nikkor 55-200mm f4-5.6G ED VR
2. Tamron SP AF Aspherical XR Di Ld (IF) 28-75mm f2.8 Macro @67
3. AF-S Nikkor 18-55mm f3.5-5.6G II ED

Teleconverter Quantaray 2X DG contacts front: 10 , rear: 8
EXIF data and camera display does not show actual focal lenght and aperature of the lens.
VR works just fine.
AF works on my Tamron lens fine no problems, on my 2 Nikkor lenses AF works but it doesnt focus corectly and also when using AF to focus it seems as if the picture jumps. In manual mode works fine the elements of the TC and Lenses do not touch at any time.
The actual focal lenght is 1.75X(aprox.) and not 2X. I figured out that by compareing pictures I took at 75mm on my Tamron and my Nikkor 55-200mm. When TC atached to Tamron at 75mm should equal to 150mm on my Nikkor 55-200mm but it is much closer to 130mm .

For the price of $80.00 it does what they say in ppwk. Picture quality ? I didnt notice any difference (nothing that can be seen by a beginers eye)
9778, RE: Tokina 1.4x and Sigma 18-200 bad combination
#35, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by keyless, Sat 01-Dec-07 08:00 AM
A Tokina 1.4x teleplus pro 300 with Sigma DC 18-200 3,5-6,3 DC OS HSM makes my D80 think that the batteries are empty and the camera refuses to release shutter. No cooperation even on M.

This converter individual worked like charm on about 20 different AF Nikkors in the camera shop!

Regards, J
9779, Sigma 2x Teleconverter and Sigma 70-200mm for Nikon
#36, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by janrohde, Wed 02-Jan-08 06:30 PM
I just bought the Sigma 2x EX DG APO Autofocus Teleconverter for Nikon AF. I have used this on the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8

Details

Contacts: 10 contacts (front and rear)
Mounts on lens: Yes
AF works: Yes
VR works: N/A
EXIF data adjusted: Yes

Cheers
~Jan
13089, RE: WARNING ABOUT THE NEW 24-70
#38, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by Len Shepherd, Fri 22-Feb-08 02:16 AM
The very large rear protruding rear element prevents even a Kenko Pro 300 1.4 being fitted. This is the first Nikon lens I have encountered where the Kenko cannot be safely fitted.
My advice is not to try it.
13098, RE: WARNING ABOUT THE NEW 24-70
#39, in response to Reply # 38
Posted by mdholland, Sun 24-Feb-08 05:16 PM
I have a D40 and am trying to find a teleconverter for my 70-300 mm VR Nikkor. Am I correct in assuming that the Sigma APO 1.4X EX DG and the 1.4X Teleplus Pro 300 Kenko N-AFd DG will work, including autofocusing? How many stops do you lose? Are there any other teleconverters that work?
13790, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#40, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by shoreroad, Sun 18-May-08 08:54 AM
I have a TC-14E 1.4x Teleconverter f/D-AF-I (on the label it also says NITC14E / 1995 (USA) . It is not clear to me what lens I can use. I have the D2x, and the 2.8 70-200 VR along with the AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/4D IF-ED lens. I don't see much written about this tele? Can it be used with either lens? paul
13793, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#41, in response to Reply # 40
Posted by benveniste, Sun 18-May-08 11:44 AM
The TC-14e can be used with both of your lenses.

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13797, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#42, in response to Reply # 41
Posted by shoreroad, Sun 18-May-08 03:03 PM
Thanks for responding. Are referring to the TC-14e I or II. I don't know the difference (if any between the two?) Do you happen to know? Thanks paul
13831, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#43, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by napa1, Wed 21-May-08 07:52 AM
I bought a Opteka HD X2 . It is the worst lens that I have bought. I have a 8800 Nikon and it will not work, even though it was suppose to!! I would like to know what brand will work with my camera. My 8800 has a fixed lens 35 to 350 MM F 2.8 type ED. I am going invest in a 250D canon macro lens which will work with this camera as I do a lot of macro work with insects and flowers.

Bill
firstnapa@gmail.com
14823, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#44, in response to Reply # 43
Posted by Kipsta, Fri 14-Nov-08 11:28 PM
G'day all - hope this is the right place for this question - if not I apologise totally.

I have a AF Nikkor 80-200 f/2.8 ED push/pull lens for my D300 (1988-1992 vintage) and have been trying to get to 400mm for wifey's athletics shots. I have been eyeing off the Tokina 80 -400 or even the Nikkor VR 80 -400 but maybe a TC201 teleconverter would do the trick (alot cheaper too).

Or even the Kenko Pro 300 2x one (whatever works better - hopefully with AF). I usually try to shoot around f/8.

Your advice would be gratefully received
Cheers
Kip.

15153, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#45, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by mdholland, Mon 05-Jan-09 02:29 PM
Does anyone have experience with a TC-14E II with a D300 and the Nikon 24-70mm and 17-55mm? Does it autofocus and supply exif data? If it does not, do any of the other TC's do it? I have does an extensive search on this forum and cannot find anything on this. Thank you.
15158, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#46, in response to Reply # 45
Posted by benveniste, Mon 05-Jan-09 06:36 PM
I don't believe you can mount either of those lenses on an unmodified TC-14e. While the Kenko TC's might work if there's enough clearance for the rear element, Kenko does not recommend using teleconverters with lenses under 100mm, and I think that's good advice.

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15160, RE: Now 24-70 and 17-55
#47, in response to Reply # 45
Posted by Len Shepherd, Tue 06-Jan-09 02:56 PM
>Does anyone have experience with a TC-14E II with a D300 and the Nikon 24-70mm and 17-55mm?
The 24-70 (and probably the 14-24) have rear elements that protrude more than other Nikon lenses so even the Kenko 1.4x cannot be safely attached.
The Kenko 1.4 is "OK" with the 17-55.
By "OK" TC's are not particularly good optically with shorter focal length lenses so you are likely to get distinctly better optical quality with a lens setting longer than 100mm than with a converter on a shorter focal length.
The Nikon's with their forward protruding front elements cannot be attached to either lens.
15180, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#48, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by bazherman, Sat 10-Jan-09 10:39 AM
Hi, on an associated issue , I have just ordered a PC-E Nikkor 24mm 3.D ED, will I be able to use it with AF-S teleconverter TC-17E II?
Just bought a D3X, I have many Nikon's F4, F5, Nikonos IV, 2x Kodak pro slr/n , bucket loads of acc's and lenses this is my first day as a Nikonian, Thanks
15289, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#50, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by blastoff, Fri 23-Jan-09 01:19 PM
>, we want to gather as much practical information as possible
>about what works and what doesn't, to help in preparing
>version 2 of the chart.
>
>So, please make a post in this thread if you have one or more
>TC's, and give as much detail about how it works with
>different lenses (and cameras).
>
>It would help if you made one post for each TC that you try,
>and put the brand and model of TC in the title. Then tell
>us:
>
>The brand and full model name each lens you have tried it
>with;
>The type (and firmware level, if a DSLR) of each Nikon camera
>you have tried it with.
>
>For each combination you try, it would be good to know:
>
>How many contacts (front and rear) the TC has;
>Whether the TC has the "screwdriver" AF connection;
>Whether it physically mounts to the lens (BE CAREFUL in case
>the lens elements collide);
>Whether AF works, tries to work and fails, or does not even
>try to work;
>Whether VR works (with a VR lens);
>Whether the EXIF data (and camera display) shows the actual
>focal length and max. aperture of the lens, or the
>"adjusted" figures.
>
>There is no need to comment on image quality and so forth.
>
>Thanks very much in advance, everyone - over to you... :)
>
15297, TC-16a
#53, in response to Reply # 50
Posted by PaulBennett, Fri 23-Jan-09 10:22 PM
TC-16A (unmodified*)
Contacts camera side: 5
Contacts lens side: 0
Screwdriver: YES (focuses uses TC lens as IF)

Usage info -
Camera: N8008
Lens 105mm f/2.5 (Manual Lens)
AF works: YES (very well)

Note: requires lens to be prefocused within range first
*modification availble extends use to AF DSLR's
15290, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#51, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by blastoff, Fri 23-Jan-09 01:24 PM
I am new to this site.

I have a D300 with a 18-200mm VR lens. Is it possible to use a tele converter and if so, which one.

Same question for a 80-400 mm VR lens

Thanks for your help.
>
15296, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#52, in response to Reply # 51
Posted by benveniste, Fri 23-Jan-09 07:29 PM
I have a D300 with a 18-200mm VR lens. Is it possible to use a tele converter and if so, which one.

Same question for a 80-400 mm VR lens


Welcome to Nikonians!

None of the current Nikon teleconverters will work with either of these lenses. The Kenko Teleplus Pro 300 series of teleconverters will work with the 80-400mm VR. The situation with the 18-200mm is a bit iffy -- at 18mm the clearances are quite close, so the teleconverters should be used with caution if at all. Kenko specifically states that it does not recommend using their TC's for lenses that have a zoom range that starts at under 50 mm.

In good light, the 1.4x Kenko converter will allow autofocus operation with the 80-400mm, but the AF action will be slow.

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15448, RE: 80-400mm Vr lens teleconverter
#54, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by blastoff, Sat 14-Feb-09 01:02 PM
I was recommended to use the Kenko Pro 300 with this lens.

Some of these converters are advertised as DG and some are not. What is the difference?
16527, RE: Nikon TC 1.4EII
#56, in response to Reply # 54
Posted by clsgman, Sun 26-Jul-09 05:04 PM
Does anyone have experience with a Nikkor 50mm 1.8D and the TC 1.4EII?

Thought the combo would make a good portrait lens or short telephoto.
16531, RE: Nikon TC 1.4EII
#57, in response to Reply # 56
Posted by blw, Mon 27-Jul-09 04:52 AM
> Does anyone have experience with a Nikkor 50mm 1.8D and the TC 1.4EII?

Highly unlikely that anyone has experience with them. They won't mount together, nor will they AF.
16533, RE: Nikon TC 1.4EII
#58, in response to Reply # 57
Posted by clsgman, Mon 27-Jul-09 05:32 AM
Thanks Brian. I suspected as much.
15498, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#55, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by ken lutes, Fri 20-Feb-09 07:42 PM
Does anyone have any experience with any teleconverters on a nikon 70/210 constant f4 lenses with a D80 Thanks
16650, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#59, in response to Reply # 55
Posted by Mark V, Tue 18-Aug-09 06:30 PM
From my experience:

A modified Nikon 14E will not fit a Nikon 200mm F4 AF Macro. The 14E front element won't fit into the lens. (The 14E tab has been ground down.)

A modified 14E will work with a Nikon 75-300, but the image degrades too much to suit me.

The Kenko 300 Pro 1.4 and the Nikon 17E degrade image quality about the same on a Nikon 300 F4 AFS. The 14E barely degrades it at all.

The Nikon 14E does not degrade image quality on a Nikon 80-200 F2.8 AFS....it may slightly improve it.

I'm looking for a TC to use with the Nikon 200mm F4 AF Macro?? (I no longer own the Kenko to give it a try.)
16998, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#60, in response to Reply # 59
Posted by N80, Wed 25-Nov-09 08:26 AM
I have the latest Sigma APO Teleconverter 1.4x EX DG. I can only say a few things for certain about it:

1) It will not mount with an AF Micro Nikkor 105 1:2.8 (non D). The rear element of the lens and the front element of the TC will make contact. The same is true for the AF Nikkor 50mm 1:1.8 (non D) and the AF-S Nikkor 18-70 3.5-4.5 D. Will not mount at all.

2) The TC has no screw drive extension.

3) It works properly (and very well) with all functions intact with the Sigma 50-150 1:2.8 EX DG HSM.
17043, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#61, in response to Reply # 60
Posted by JohnA_BatonRouge, Tue 08-Dec-09 07:21 AM
Are there any Nikonians who own a Nikkor 135mm f/2.0 DC and have used it with a Kenko 1.4 PRO teleconverter? (This would provide an approximate focal length of 190mm at f/2.8.) Any problems? Results vs sharpness? I would be particularly interested in responses from Nikonians using the D700 with this converter.
Regards,
JohnA
17044, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#62, in response to Reply # 61
Posted by benveniste, Tue 08-Dec-09 12:54 PM
I own both and have taken a few experimental shots with film, but since I also own a 180mm f/2.8 I've had no reason to shoot the combination "in anger."

If you want to photograph a man spinning, give some thought to why he spins. Understanding for a photographer is as important as the equipment he uses. - Margaret Bourke-White
18341, RE: Teleconverter Compatibility - we want your input
#63, in response to Reply # 0
Posted by kenta, Mon 04-Oct-10 08:25 AM
Hi Brian. I always seem to be behind the times. Every time I buy something there is a new model coming out. Anyway right now I have a new Nikon TC-17E11. There are only 2 lenses I want it to work on and that's the new Nikkor AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR 11.
I put it on and the autofocus and the connection worked great. The other lens is the 105mm 1:2.8G ED. This fit, but there was no autofocus as it said so the focusing would be like the old days with manual.
As far as the 80-400mm 4.5-5.6D I will have to wait. I read that there is a new version of the TC-2 etc, but there is a waiting list?
Am I correct that the 2 lenses above will continue to work on a D3, D300 or D700?
Thanks Kent