GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras.
Brian Padraig O'Connor
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#1. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 0
Mon 29-Mar-21 08:02 AMYes and no.
The easiest way to link GPS data is by connecting the camera via Snapbridge. It will automatically tag the GPS coordinates into the EXIF data so it can be used downstream as needed. Better still - it's free.Eric Bowles
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#2. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 1
Mon 29-Mar-21 10:20 AMAnd getting SnapBridge to work, and work consistently, is not always easy.
Nikon has not built GPS into their mirrorless cameras or DSLR's, except for the D5300.
It's seem like something that would be relatively easy to do, but Nikon does not see any value to doing it.Mick
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#3. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 2
Mon 29-Mar-21 10:30 AMTransfers can be more challenging, but just connecting the two works pretty well. That's all you need for GPS.Eric Bowles
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#4. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 3
Mon 29-Mar-21 10:39 AMI don't think so. Just look through the forums here and there are many reports of connection problems. In my own use, I have found SnapBridge to be a pain.
And frankly, it is also an extra step and piece of hardware that should not be necessary.Mick
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#7. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 3
Wed 31-Mar-21 10:14 PMI've found that using SnapBridge as a way to automatically geotag my photos to be unreliable, at best. The location data that is recorded into the raw files is not updated as often as I would like (even with SnapBridge set to the highest level of accuracy), and often times the location data is just wildly inaccurate.
However, I'm not convinced this is SnapBridge's fault. After all, SnapBridge is merely recording the data that is fed to it by my Samsung Galaxy S10 smartphone. I've always carried a Garmin handheld gps unit when shooting in the field, and then syncing the Garmin's tracklog with the raw files using dedicated software designed specifically for that purpose. This method writes the location data directly into the header of the raw file, something Lightroom won't do, and has always proven to be highly accurate and reliable, but it does involve an extra step in post workflow. I was hoping the SnapBridge solution would eliminate the need for the Garmin and the syncing of files, but it just hasn't panned out that way. I suspect that the Garmin is just a much more sensitive and accurate gps receiver than the phone, especially when there is no cell service to corroborate the gps location data, but I'm not really sure. Maybe the problem is carrying the smartphone in my left front pants pocket, limiting its ability to receive data from enough satellites. All I know is that after testing, I can't rely on it for consistent and accurate results.
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#8. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 7
Thu 01-Apr-21 06:07 AMI can't speak to the GPS performance of that particular phone model, but with my iPhone running both Snapbridge and an app that records a GPS track, I've found instances where the track data gave a correct geolocation while the Snapbridge-provided camera data seemed to have gotten "frozen" at a previous position. So while the Snapbridge method is probably better than nothing, I still prefer to use a separate GPS device, be it a phone or a dedicated GPS receiver.
Using a dedicated GPS receiver also reduces the load on the batteries in the phone and camera, which likely improves battery life though I don't know how much because I haven't measured it.-- Jon
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#5. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 1
I can see where folks say it is a little confusing to accomplish the initial pairing. The instructions could be more clear with a few words added in places. IMO, like all Nikon supplied free SW, it will work, but seems to lack end user experience and feedback into the final release(s). It makes me think that Nikon tests all SW internally by staff that is familiar with the software being tested rather the have open public beta tests. Since Nikon SW is free, Nikon is not protecting market share or competitive advantage for SW, so why not offer public beta testing.
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#6. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 5
Wed 31-Mar-21 05:15 AMWell said indeed.
I occasionally give Snapbridge a go and always come out frustrated. Yet there are quite a few wireless tethering apps that work easily and consistently. So I'm with you on that.
The Snapbridge 360 was a total disaster which probably contributed to that system's downfall. That & the cost of the gear itself...
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#9. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 0
I've used GPS tracking from di-GPS www.di-gps.com on several Nikon cameras over the years, starting with the D7100, and subsequently my D500 and now my Z6. They work great, especially the model for the D500, which not only gives your GPS coordinates but the direction you are pointing your camera. I like GPS tagging to track my location(s) when my wife and I are biking Europe and doing our hiking / backpacking in Colorado. I found Snapbridge a bit clunky on my D500 but it works great with my Z6. As a result I never use my di-GPS devices anymore. They are great tools but they do drain the camera battery a little. I am now looking for another GPS solution to support a 14 day river float through the Grand Canyon in June. I don't want to deal with my iPhone so Snapbridge is not an option, and the di-GPS is probably not viable because of the battery issue. I am thinking about using a Garmin, similar to how Russ describes in the above message.
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#10. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 0
I settled, for now anyway, on the Foolography Unleashed. This also connects to your phone for gps data and the results seem reasonably accurate (but not as good as my GP1). The problem is that the Unleashed has a lot of trouble connecting to Android phones, so much so that I would only recommend this solution to iPhone users. The company is in Germany which raises challenges, but they clearly mean well and the device provides other extremely useful remote control capabilities. The techs and owner are pretty responsive to correspondence. They also have an online forum but it isn’t very user friendly, at least for me.
I had a conversation going about GPS alternatives last year in this forum. I received lots of great suggestions. You might look back for my name and “GPS” and review it if you like.
Brett
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#11. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 10
Mon 05-Apr-21 08:28 AMhttps://www.nikonians.org/forum/topic/477-6886-6886/gps-geotagging-with-z6 is the older relevant thread. I hope you find it helpful.Brett
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#12. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 11
Mon 05-Apr-21 10:05 AMExcellent. I will take a look at these options and see what will work best for my trip. Thanks Brett!Visit my Nikonians gallery.
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#16. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 12
Wed 07-Apr-21 04:45 PMThanks again for your direction Brett. I looked at the options explored in your post. I also considered using MyTracks, which is a great GPS tracking tool that integrates with your iPhone and computer. All in all that does not solve my battery life issue though. I'll probably just take a lot of batteries for my Z6 and use my Dawn device sparingly. I'll also have a couple of charging bricks. A Garmin Fenix 6 watch, which tracks GPS and I believe can support a two week battery life if used properly is also a possibility but this is added $$$. Thanks again for your help.
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#13. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 0
Both have 10-pin connection/cable configurations however only the Solmeta GMAX has a Z camera connection cable. Solmeta's GMAX for Nikon has its own internal battery that lasts more than a long day (on DSLRs, my Z7ii and my Z6ii) in the "on" mode and then switches to the camera battery when it is depleted. The di-gps runs off the camera battery. No extra synchronization is necessary with either device once you pay for the basic device and no software is required.
I have been using both devices for years and added an additional Solmeta GMAX for Z7ii and Z6ii. The Z connection cable tucks in nicely within the L bracket (does not protrude) giving it great protection from bumps or disconnection. Value is a personal choice.
Cheers.
Jim
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#14. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 13
Wed 07-Apr-21 04:28 PMI agree, Jim. I have used the GMAX on DSLR and now on Z cameras, and they work great. I use Photo Mechanic to ingest and tag photos. The GMAX works seamlessly with PM.Mick
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#17. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 14
Wed 07-Apr-21 05:43 PMDecades long user of PhotoMechanic too for a lot of reasons not to mention speed!
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#15. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 13
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#18. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 15
Wed 07-Apr-21 06:03 PMWith a Z6 or Z7 (ii versions or not) the camera has user settings for how quickly it resorts to power saving after each capture. Any attached GPS without internal batteries may still call on camera battery rather than go into the sleep mode of the camera ... I have not checked this. I will attach the di-gps to Z6ii and observe what happens with the Z6ii as it goes to sleep mode relative to activity of the di-gps. BTW to use a 10-pin di-gps or the Solmeta GMAX from a 10-pin connector, you can obtain a GPS splitter from Solmeta that takes the initial connection into the splitter which opens up two ports ... so from Z camera use the Z connector to the splitter's 1st of 2 ports an then directly connect the di-gps to the second port of the splitter while the initial cord of the splitter connect to the Solmeta GMAX device head. And if you need a wireless remote shutter release from your DSLR kit, attach it to the through port of the di-gps device. I have successfully been using both gps devices even though the di-gps is only 10-pin port at this time in the above way. For the Solmeta device, just to change the connector cord for the camera body to the device connection, ie one cord no splitter needed. Connector cords are ~$25 USD each and the splitter is ~$45 USD each. BTW I use the splitter on the Z's for the wireless remote shutter.
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#19. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 0
Mick
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#20. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 19
Wed 07-Apr-21 08:29 PMHave you used it? Wait level of delay with actual shuuter lag? I picked up one that was just delivered.Visit my Nikonians gallery.
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#21. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 20
Wed 07-Apr-21 08:38 PMI haven’t used it much. Seems to be OKMick
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#22. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 21
Thu 08-Apr-21 11:05 AMI really like the wireless remote shutter release I use now, but it sits in the hot shoe and uses the 10-pin connector. So if I go for a Solmeta I've two units vying for the same real estate.
The splitter Jim mentions would solve the connector problem but it appears to give me another dangling cable. The remote you mention is about the same price as the splitter. It doesn't have the release mode options, it appears, that my current remote release has, but since I use it primarily for landscape setting that on the camera ahead of time should be sufficient. You said shutter lag was OK. I assume with Bluetooth that range is not an issue either?
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#23. "RE: GPS in Nikon Mirrorless cameras." | In response to Reply # 22
Thu 08-Apr-21 11:55 AMDale, as I said, I haven't used it much yet. I also generally am using a wireless remote as a substitute for a corded one, and am at close range. When I have a chance, I'll do some more rigorous testing the Solmeta wireless remote, but suffice to say, it meets my needs.Mick
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