Z7 : Your opinion
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#1. "RE: Z7 : Your opinion" | In response to Reply # 0
Tue 17-Nov-20 01:38 PM | edited Tue 17-Nov-20 01:41 PM by kmacyI tried to sell my Z7 and could not because of the financial loss. Now I am glad I didn't.
I have two D850's and they are used in my studio. I use the Z7 for landscape. When using the FTZ adapter and my Tamron 150-600G2, I am able to shoot some wildlife but the battery drain is tremendous.
So I take one of my D850's and shoot with it and receive twice the battery life of the Z7. So do I agree?
The ultimate choice is yours, but I am required to give a better answer, then I say no, don't sell. I will bet the D500 does fine for wildlife and use your Z7 to make great landscape images. Split the usage.Visit my Nikonians gallery.
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#3. "RE: Z7 : Your opinion" | In response to Reply # 2
Tue 17-Nov-20 02:02 PMNo, I don't think it's a limitation because I started Nikon digital with the D100 then 200 then 300. After that I went to all FX.
But I shoot images I have to sell that have to be cropped or blown up to large sizes, so an FX with mega-pixels works for that. If shooting wildlife that is not going to be published, cropped or blown up, then DX does a fine job while retaining sharpness.Visit my Nikonians gallery.
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#4. "RE: Z7 : Your opinion" | In response to Reply # 2
Tue 17-Nov-20 06:11 PM | edited Tue 17-Nov-20 06:33 PM by RassieRemember the DX cameras allow a 50% apparent longer reach than an FX camera with the same lens.
So, putting the same lens on the D850 with its larger sensor the animal is smaller in the photo than when shooting the same animal with the D500 with the same lens. You therefore have to crop the D850 image in order to look the same as the D500. When you crop the D850 image to DX dimensions you reduce the pixels from ~46MP to ~20MP, the same as the D500. Cropping degrades the IQ so while the full frame images are cleaner with less noise than a DX image, when you crop FX down to DX size you end up with more or less the same image quality as the DX camera. In other words you lose the advantages of the better IQ of a full frame image when you crop it to DX size. So a cropped FX image in this instance is no better than one shot with DX with the same lens.
The only way to maintain the better IQ of the FX sensor is to use a 50% longer lens on the same animal, and now you're talking big bucks. Alternatively you can fit a 1,4X teleconverter to the lens but then you suffer a loss of light and autofocus in less than stellar light can be problematic.
Further, the D500 is superior in frame rate and autofocus capabilities for wildlife compared to the D850. In my opinion you already have the best wildlife camera body available in the Nikon stable. For anything else the Z7 is more than capable, so I wouldn't change anything if I were in your position. -
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#5. "RE: Z7 : Your opinion" | In response to Reply # 0
Wed 18-Nov-20 03:59 PM
What kind of wildlife are you photographing? Different types of wildlife require different techniques and different gear.
The D850 and Z7 will produce the cleanest backgrounds. For many images it makes sense to use a longer focal length, fill the frame, and have a nice background. There is no situation where the D500 will have more pixels on the subject than the D850 or Z7 - even cropped to DX proportions or beyond.
The D500 will have a more magnified viewfinder than the D850 if you are cropping, and that can be useful. But the Z7 can be used in DX crop mode, and the EVF will be about the same as the D500.
The D500 has an edge in frame rate. The Z6ii matches that frame rate but can't always be used in the fastest mode for action. The D850 has the slowest frame rate of the group - but only by a small amount. Frame rate is probably a minor issue outside of specific use cases.
The D500 and D850 have an optical viewfinder, so there is no limit on your view during a burst. The Z7 does have some hesitation and lag because it's an image you have taken or framed. This makes a difference with erratic movement, but is less of an issue with predictable movement.
The Z7 allows you to zoom through the EVF to 50%/100%/200%. This makes it much better for any kind of manual focus, manual adjustment of AF, or viewing closely for precise timing of head position or action.
Exposures tend to be easier in varied light with a Z camera. The EVF provides a view of the image as well as a histogram.
The Z7 or D850 will be better for architecture, landscapes, most portraits, etc.
Switching between systems can be a challenge. The AF systems are different, and your mode choices are different. Even getting exposures right can be challenging with two cameras. It takes more practice and concentration - not less - if you are mixing a DSLR and mirrorless. You'll do best with the camera you use the most.
Regardless of the technical reasons, you should pick the camera you want. If you have made up your mind, there is no need to debate the issue.
The D850 and Z7 will produce the cleanest backgrounds. For many images it makes sense to use a longer focal length, fill the frame, and have a nice background. There is no situation where the D500 will have more pixels on the subject than the D850 or Z7 - even cropped to DX proportions or beyond.
The D500 will have a more magnified viewfinder than the D850 if you are cropping, and that can be useful. But the Z7 can be used in DX crop mode, and the EVF will be about the same as the D500.
The D500 has an edge in frame rate. The Z6ii matches that frame rate but can't always be used in the fastest mode for action. The D850 has the slowest frame rate of the group - but only by a small amount. Frame rate is probably a minor issue outside of specific use cases.
The D500 and D850 have an optical viewfinder, so there is no limit on your view during a burst. The Z7 does have some hesitation and lag because it's an image you have taken or framed. This makes a difference with erratic movement, but is less of an issue with predictable movement.
The Z7 allows you to zoom through the EVF to 50%/100%/200%. This makes it much better for any kind of manual focus, manual adjustment of AF, or viewing closely for precise timing of head position or action.
Exposures tend to be easier in varied light with a Z camera. The EVF provides a view of the image as well as a histogram.
The Z7 or D850 will be better for architecture, landscapes, most portraits, etc.
Switching between systems can be a challenge. The AF systems are different, and your mode choices are different. Even getting exposures right can be challenging with two cameras. It takes more practice and concentration - not less - if you are mixing a DSLR and mirrorless. You'll do best with the camera you use the most.
Regardless of the technical reasons, you should pick the camera you want. If you have made up your mind, there is no need to debate the issue.
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#8. "RE: Z7 : Your opinion" | In response to Reply # 6
Thu 19-Nov-20 05:11 AMHi, I just watched the pictures you uploaded. The first thing that came into my mind was that the Z7 is pretty good for your photos.
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I have bought the Z7 a year ago. At that time i was shooting mostly landscapes, portraits and building.
Since then i became totally wild life enthusiastic... Something i couldn't perform well with Z7.. so i have bought a D-500 and attached my 500mm PF and there i go..
Lately i was thinking of selling the Z7 - i use the D-500 most of the time - and buy a D-850... This looks like the right chice for wild life photography.
Do you agree?