have some questions -photoshop w/coolscan 4000
robertadeniro
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Thu 11-Apr-02 01:18 PM
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#1. "RE: have some questions -photoshop w/coolscan 4000" | In response to Reply # 0
1 - I'm not sure of this one as I don't use windows...
2 - You can edit pictures in 16 bit mode (which photoshop will "upsample" your 14 bit scans to) but your options are more limited. I have done work on my pictures in this mode, but everything moves slow because they are so huge...
3 - I don't even know what this is, let alone how to emulate it
4 - I'm not that good. I want to shoot IR because it looks so cool to me.
Now, for video. Premier is the editing suite, After Effects provides more functionality and features (compositing, effects etc.). Honestly to edit video your best bet is a mac with either (1) Final Cut Pro or (2) Avid DV Express. Premier is available for the mac but it is so far behind those two products that it's not even funny. You can run after effects with Avid DV or Final Cut Pro as well.
I just went to NAB and spent a lot of time investigating video editing solutions. Avid DV express may be available for the pc, but the mac is really the preferred platform for this sort of thing.
Joel
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#2. "RE: DV editing systems" | In response to Reply # 1
I just received in the mail my copy of DV. They have a head to head between Final Cut Pro and Avid DV Express 3 for the PC (so it IS available for both...). A couple of quotes:
"Either Xpress DV 3.0 or Final Cut 3.0 will edit a basic sequence with a minimum of grief"
"If effects and compositing are a large part of your typical NLE project requirements and you plan to finish the project on the NLE they were created on, I would strongly recommend using Final Cut Pro 3.0 because of its more powerful effects creation tools. Final Cut also shines in situations requiring a portable editor"
"The bottom line is that as an editor, I'd enjoy a date with Final Cut Pro 3.0 anytime, but I'd marry Xpress DV 3.0. No matter which system you choose, be thankful for the other. Competition is good for the customer. In this case, very good."
The gist of the article is that overall he likes Avid DV Xpress better, but recommends FCP if you need lots of effects or compositing (combining multiple streams of video together with effects).
After Effects will (I believe) work with either program, as does BorisFX. The bottom line is that these suites can all be added to.
Premier is really not a very good program. I went to a Premier demo at NAB and near the end leaned over to one of the people who works for me and said "I see why we don't use Premier." (We actually use a product called Media 100 right now, but will likely move in a year or two) I am not an expert personally, but I try to stay up on this stuff so that I can intelligently manage the people who work for me doing this sort of thing. Also, I can make good purchase decisions when I understand the market and products. If you value your time, Premier is really not your best option.
Joel
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#3. "RE: have some questions -photoshop w/coolscan 4000" | In response to Reply # 0
Premier is the editing program, it can be had in a few different bundles of power and price. After Effects lets you do apply effects to video, hence the name. Both support plugins that allow you to extend the feature set. The Pinnacle capture card he's getting looks like a good bundle. I have a lower line Pinnacle 1394 card that does a good job of capture with my Sony DV camcorder, but you do want to have a boatload of gigabytes to capture your raw footage and do your editing.
Here's one Photoshop filter that simulates an IR look: http://www.glickcreative.com/infrared_photoshop_filter.html
Since IR information isn't recorded on standard film, you can only simulate the look, not reproduce it fully. You can probably do a Google search and find some free advice to do the same thing the Glick filter does.
Here's a tutorial on doing a Photoshop cross-processing effect:
http://www.bjphoto.co.uk/cross.shtml
Look around and you'll find a wealth of tips, tricks and plugins for Photoshop...
BJ
Here's one Photoshop filter that simulates an IR look: http://www.glickcreative.com/infrared_photoshop_filter.html
Since IR information isn't recorded on standard film, you can only simulate the look, not reproduce it fully. You can probably do a Google search and find some free advice to do the same thing the Glick filter does.
Here's a tutorial on doing a Photoshop cross-processing effect:
http://www.bjphoto.co.uk/cross.shtml
Look around and you'll find a wealth of tips, tricks and plugins for Photoshop...
BJ
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#4. "RE: have some questions -photoshop w/coolscan 4000" | In response to Reply # 3
robertadeniro Basic MemberMon 15-Apr-02 05:29 AMthanks for the info , you can always count on a Nikonian...
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1-when using nikon scan and i stop the scan or preview- the plugin goes away and i have to go through the file menu from photoshop to get it going again...any way around having it stay unless i press the close box (the "x")
2-photoshop has 8 and 16 bit color mode . so what's the point of scanning in 14 bit mode if it doesn't let me edit unless i convert it to 8 towork on the picture?
3-how can i emulate a cross printing E-6 negatives in C-41 ?
4-any know-how on making a good'ol B&W pic look infrared or is it just old fashioned magic wand and eye adjust?
last question, that is not in the subject of this post but can anyone tell what's the difference between adobe's premire and after effects?
i was asked to get some info for a wedding videographer that wants to go DV and ditch his SVHS. he'll be getting the pinnacle dv500. he gets the premiere with it, but heard so much rave that the after effects is the top of the line. i don't know video, so i that my fellow nikonians would....i hope?
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=18&Langue_ID=7
thanks again nikonians!