Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD
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#1. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 0
Thanks for posting.
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#2. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 1
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#3. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 2
I was surprised by the differences in write performance - both for a 30 second test but also for shorter periods as well as measurements by the second.
The Delkin Power card was able to shoot 90 14 bit NEF images in 15 seconds and dropped to 63 images in the second 15 second period when the buffer was full. The first 15 seconds the camera was able to take 6 images per second every second, then was more volatile after the buffer filled. Changing to 12 bit allowed faster shooting with 101 images in the first 15 seconds and 72 images in the second 15 second period. This card had the most even performance for the first 15 seconds and the predictability would be helpful.
The ProGrade Gold 128 GB card was able to shoot 52 images in the first 15 seconds, and 29 images in the second 15 second period. There was a big drop off in speed after 7 seconds when the buffer filled. The card was very inconsistent - starting and stopping throughout the test. Seven times the camera paused and went a second or more without taking an image. Dropping to 12 bit helped some with 74 images in the first 15 seconds and 37 images in the second 15 seconds.
The Lexar XQD 64 GB card was surprisingly good. Shooting 14 bit NEFs, I was able to shoot 74 images in the first 15 seconds and 61 in the second 15 seconds. The problem was the XQD card seemed less controlled than the Delkin CFE card. It shot 43 images in the first six seconds, and after that was much less controlled with good and bad variation seemingly at random.
The thing that bothers me about variability is that it is so unpredictable. What if I was shooting a wedding. I'm cruising along with "the kiss" and my buffer is nearly filled. Then just as they start walking down the aisle, I'd reduced to 1-4 fps. I have 2 seconds that are critical, and I don't know whether I'll have 6 frames, 8 frames or zero frames. With the upper end Delkin Power card, I know I get 6-7 frames. With other cards, I might get 5-6 frames, but I might only get 0 or 1.
I can't tell how much of this is Nikon vs. the card manufacturer. The XQD card was about 5-6% faster than the Delkin CFExpress card in my Z6, but slower in my Z7II. The ProGrade Cobalt CFExpress was the slowest card, but in my Z6 it shot only 12% fewer images the Delkin CFExpress. The difference was more meaningful in my Z7II where the Delkin card allowed me to shoot 80% more images in 30 seconds.
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#4. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 3
True, predictability is important, but that example is ... aeh ... off.

#6. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 4
I ran more than 6000 test images with two cameras. The intermittent speeding up and slowing down was partially related to the cards.
The cameras track the number of shots remaining as the buffer fills. With the Z6 I was watching the count drop from r20 to r0, and then at times it increased to as much as r9 and dropped again. The Z7II was more predictable and tended to stay around r0 to r1.
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#7. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 6
I'm happy that I'm not doing this professionally (and never did) and especially not now where it seems expectations have changed radically ...
#8. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 3
I seldom have to shoot burst, but when I do (dance, motocross, etc.) it would be good to have predictable camera performance.
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#9. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 8
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#10. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 9
Now, this needs a certain amount of logic to be executed, and it's not the camera doing this, it's the card/SSD, this means that quality of algorithms, performance of on-disk compute, as well as wear status of the disk have a massive performance impact.
You want to test cards that have seen roughly the same amount of use, well within their specified wear. If they are in different states of their life, you'll see vastly different results, even within the same line of cards.
This is something that has to be kept in mind with these cards: they are only specified for a certain amount of "re-writes" (amount of data being written on the card as a multiple of the card's size). Lesser quality cards or SSDs have less re-writes. That's why enterprise SSDs are so much more expensive than consumer SSDs.
#11. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 0
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#12. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 11
At the same time, if the card is limiting speed, performance may be slower, more variable, or maybe has some other impact.
My other post on this topic shows the second by second frame rate for the Z7II and Z6 with some specific cards. I'm interested in what the D6 or D5 looks like with a couple of different cards.
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#13. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 0
https://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/cfexpress/delkin-devices-64gb-128gb-ands-256gb-power-and-prime-cfexpress-type-b-cards-reviewed-great-sustained-speeds-at-low-temps/
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#14. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 13
I do like the Delkin Power 128 GB CFExpress card and reader. The bundle with a reader is a great deal, and Hunt's still has it available.
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#15. "RE: Z cameras tested - CFExpress vs XQD" | In response to Reply # 13
JIM-
Really? ;P
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https://camnostic.com/2021/02/nikon-z-series-gains-30-burst-capacity-with-cfexpress/
Keep in mind that there is a lot of variation depending on card brand, model, and card size. The best performance is with larger sizes of premium cards - ProGrade Cobalt, Delkin Power, Angelbird, and Sony Tough. There are also specific camera settings that impact burst length and speed.