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volvoswede Silver Member Nikonian since 04th Oct 2009Fri 30-Mar-12 12:27 PM
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"Early report of D800 user AF issue"


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Here's the first report I've seen of a D800 AF issue, it bears watching for me in the pre-order stage.

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/03/30/update-on-nikon-d800-focusing-issues/

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mdonovan Gold Member Charter MemberFri 30-Mar-12 12:45 PM
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Very interesting ... And somewhat concerning read. I would love for someone to make a post on how to test for this!! We amateurs rarely get as technical as adjusting focus per lens!
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MotoMannequin Moderator Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Nikonian since 11th Jan 2006Fri 30-Mar-12 04:18 PM
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Fri 30-Mar-12 04:20 PM by MotoMannequin

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One great thing about Live View cameras is that you have 2 completely independent autofocus systems. This offers the possibility to use one as a diagnostic tool for the other.

The conventional (phase detect) AF sits in the top of the prism and focuses from the image reflected off the mirror. It's critical that the light path from the mount, off the mirror, and up into the phase detect sensor is exactly the same distance as the mount to the sensor, otherwise this AF will not operate properly. Most cameras have an offset screw to fine-tune the position of the mirror at rest, and misalignment of this screw, skewing the distance light travels to the AF sensor, is the typical cause of AF problems.

With Live View the camera now offers a contrast detect AF that uses data directly off the sensor. Because this is exactly the same image recorded during exposure, there is a lot less that can go wrong.

Bear in mind that contrast detect AF (LiveView) is optimized for accuracy, while phase detect AF (traditional) is optimized for speed. Contrast detect AF will therefore give more consistent results, and by its nature phase detect, even when working properly, will always be a little bit hit-or-miss. But, if phase detect AF is consistently off and contrast detect AF is always on, that's a good indicator there's no problem with the lens, mount, or sensor. Comparing the two is how you can isolate a problem to exist (or not) in the phase detect AF system.

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rplst8 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2008Fri 30-Mar-12 04:21 PM
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Johnstown, US
          

How is it possible that the AF sensor is causing "a soft left side".

That sounds like a mount yaw alignment problem to me.

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JosephK Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006Sat 31-Mar-12 05:11 AM
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I, too, was wondering that.

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Ferguson Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004Sat 31-Mar-12 12:10 PM
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>How is it possible that the AF sensor is causing "a soft
>left side".

I don't have the problem but I read that as saying "if the AF point is on the left side the focus is soft, if the AF point is not the focus is sharp" meaning that the AF sensor was not in some fashion parallel to the primary sensor plane.

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mwhals Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2004Fri 30-Mar-12 04:49 PM
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Winfield, US
          

Reading down the comments, Nikon found a problem with the AF sensor in the camera and are sending him a new camera.

I am not concerned. It is one problem (that was not a design issue) out of how many cameras? I am sure it was lots of cameras.

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Robman3 Gold Member Nikonian since 12th Apr 2010Sat 31-Mar-12 07:23 AM
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West of Santa Monica, US
          

Haven't read that thread but the answer above about misaligned prism and sensor read, makes the trip to Nikon a 30 minute drive if this happens to the D800 once I pick it up.

Also, the Camera shop is a 15 minute ride.

Thanks for the heads up!

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