I understand there will be additional processsing work necessary for a D800E image but can't find details. I shoot primarily landscape and am not a pro; just an active amateur. Also not a pro at processing. Worried I have taken on too much heavy lifting in processing for not enough value in the final product (should I switch my order to D800?). Apologies if this topic has been covered; I'm new and just figuring out the mechanics of the site. Thanks.

It shouldn't take any extra processing unless you run into moire. If you're a landscape shooter you'll probably never run into moire unless you shoot screen doors or similar detailed patterns.

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Agree - no extra processing needed . I saw on another post someone though the 800e would require a tripod more than the 800 . I think every one needs to relax ... The difference between the 2 is not going to be HUGE .....sloppy technique with yield sloppy images on either. As far as moire the LR4 and Capture ONE anti moire tools should be fine on the rare occasion you see moire in the d800e.......unless you shoot burlap or fabrics all day I think the 800e will be fine : )

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Thanks. Felt like much ado about nothing, but with NASA-like technology you never know.

I was out with the family today with my D7000 and found what looks like Moire' to me....

Whole picture:



100% crop:



This was on my 24-70 F2.8 @ F5.6 1/1250 iso100

For these kind of pictures, I don't think it's a big deal... for wedding's... well different story.... The big thing to note here is that this was on a man made net... In nature, should be rear...

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Atsa Moire! Sorry I couldn't resist.

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>Atsa Moire! Sorry I couldn't resist.
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LOL.....It had to be said.....

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It looks to me that the cloth in question is not a fabric per-se but more of a mesh. For example, it looks as if you can see sky through it rather than the sky / light being a reflection.

If it is a mesh, the moire you are seeing is not caused by your camera but by two layers of mesh overlapping and creating a moire pattern on their own. You may have been able to see this with your eye at the time had you been looking for it.

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I'd expect D800e to require less processing, specifically less or no capture sharpen step. Unless you're trying to correct moiré, that should be the only difference.

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The extra price is the only the only problem for me.
If you do not have it locked in, Nikon is raising it ($500?) for the e.

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>The extra price is the only the only problem for me.
>If you do not have it locked in, Nikon is raising it ($500?)
>for the e.

Can you post a source for that info?

I'm aware Nikon UK announced a price hike. Despite speculation in the USA, I notice that B&H is still allowing pre-orders at the original price, so the option to "lock in" is apparently still open:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/843007-REG/Nikon_25498_D800E_SLR_Digital_Camera.html/BI/4775/KBID/5289/

Given the D800e includes a Capture NX2 license, that offsets some of the additional price, at least if you don't already own NX2. Based on what I've seen around the internet so far, I'm convinced NX2 is the raw converter you want to use with the D800e.

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>>The extra price is the only the only problem for me.
>>If you do not have it locked in, Nikon is raising it
>($500?)
>>for the e.
>
>Can you post a source for that info?
>
>I'm aware Nikon UK announced a price hike. Despite speculation
>in the USA, I notice that B&H is still allowing pre-orders
>at the original price, so the option to "lock in" is
>apparently still open:


This is what my local camera store manager told me while I was picking up my D800.
Perhaps it is the price difference compared to the D800.

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Thanks for all the help. One last question: if I do encounter moire is the solution to run the RAW image through Capture first? I assume Lightroom has a similar capability to reduce this effect?

The way you describe your photography there is no reason to buy the D800E rather than the D800. You will have more detail than you will know what to do with with the D800.

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>I understand there will be additional processsing work
>necessary for a D800E image but can't find details.

I didn't notice anyone mentioning it, but it takes extra processOR time, in the sense that your favorite program may need to work harder. I use lightroom, and rendering 1:1 previews is noticably slower, maybe 3-4 times as slow. To be fair, I had to upgrade to a new version at the same time, so some of the slowness may be it.

But also when I render into Photoshop to edit from Lightroom, it's noticeably slower. Not unacceptably slow, but slower.

And of course for a given speed card, 3-4x the size image takes longer to download to your computer, or to upload to your photo web site.

So when people talk about extra processing time they may be simply talking computer time.

Most of this to me is moot -- I tend to come into the house, pop the CF card in the reader, start lightroom, and go clean up, eat, drink, etc. and when I'm done all the shots are loaded, previews built, etc.



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I ordered an 800E on opening day, and I've had some doubts about whether I made the right decision. I shoot landscape, primarily, and some low-res, intended-for-Facebook events. I've looked at some of the comparison images; some show little difference, others more. I went to a website devoted to Leicas where they're very anal about resolution. Here's the link:

http://lavidaleica.com/content/anti-aliasing-filter-primer

I also saw this photo that was attributed to Nikon that seems to be a dramatic difference between the two cameras. Can't vouch for its authenticity or degree of processing. I also looked at some Canon-oriented sites where they showed images taken with cameras that had their OLPF removed. Pretty dramatic difference. I guess I'll find out whether the moiré makes any difference the hard way.

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This example has already been debunked a long time ago. These were screen captures somebody took from a Nikon video about those models. Obviously, nobody would buy a D800 or any camera for that matter if it delivered like that sample.

There have been a number of good comparisons posted over the last couple weeks on various sites, including full resolution jpegs as well as NEF files for both models that show the difference (or lack thereof) much better.

Here is one of those comparisons. These are 100% crops. See full images at http://www.fotopolis.pl

D800:
]http://www.fotopolis.pl/obrazki/pw-d800-m100.jpg

D800E:
http://www.fotopolis.pl/obrazki/pw-d800e-m100.jpg

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