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b1234s Registered since 05th Dec 2010Sat 16-Apr-11 08:50 PM
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"Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"


Winter Garden, US
          

When using the lens hood that came with the 18-105mm lens there is a half circle shadow at the bottom of each photo. This is cause by the hood. When I take it off it is no longer a problem.

The solution is to not use the lens hood but I am curious as to why using what is provided with the lens would produce a problem such as this. I assume the lens is seeing the bottom part of the hood. I have checked and the hood is on property as far as I can tell.

Ben

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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sat 16-Apr-11 09:30 PM
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#1. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Phoenix, US
          

Howdy, Ben. I'm guessing that the shadow is only present when you are using the built-in flash? This is actually normal on most lenses. You should remove the hood when using the built-in flash as a general rule.

If its not the flash shadow then make sure you have the correct hood. It should be an HB-32. I don't think there's a way you could mount it incorrectly and have a shadow present without the flash firing. But if you had the wrong hood installed that could be the cause of the problem.

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Robman3 Gold Member Nikonian since 12th Apr 2010Sat 16-Apr-11 10:51 PM
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West of Santa Monica, US
          

Hello Ben,

The hood also attends to keeping lens flare (sun glint or refraction on surfaces of the lens elements).

Even with the hood, sometimes a hat or flag is required to shade the lens outdoors and indoors.

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The hood tends to block the built-in flash (vignetting effect), especially at the wider end of the focal length range. Solution is to remove the hood when shooting with flash (you still might get vignetting if the flash is not rated to cover down to the widest focal length the lens is capable of) or use an external Speedlight such as the SB-400 or the SB-700. The Speedlight moves the flash higher off the lens axis and will clear the lens hood even at the widest setting.

Note that even an external Speedlight will vignette because it likely can only cover down to say, 14mm. Most Speedlights have special adapters that snap down to force the flash pattern to cover that length, so if you're using an ultrawide like an 8mm, 11 or 12mm lens, the hood can still block the light.

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four eighty sparky Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Apr 2011Sun 17-Apr-11 01:51 AM
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#4. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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See page 271 of the manual.

  

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PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009Sun 17-Apr-11 02:32 AM
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Kingston, CA
          

If it were the built in flash being shaded, wouldn't Ben be seeing this shadow at the top of the image, and not at the bottom as he is reporting?

Peter

  

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four eighty sparky Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Apr 2011Sun 17-Apr-11 02:34 AM
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#6. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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The flash is above the lens hood (at least in landscape orientation), so the shadow would be cast on the bottom of the image.

  

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#7. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Sun 17-Apr-11 02:38 AM by DeanAZ

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Peter, I've done it myself. The area where the flash can't reach is shaded by the top petal of the hood which casts a shadow that appears on the bottom part of the image. The flash has no trouble illuminating the top part of the scene. If you zoom in with the lens in question the shadow is gone by about 28mm.

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b1234s Registered since 05th Dec 2010Sun 17-Apr-11 02:17 PM
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#8. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Winter Garden, US
          

You guys have solved my problem. I never realized it only happened when I was using the flash. Also as Sparky pointed out it does mention this in the manual (page 271), guess I never got that far.

Thanks for everyones help.


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kajphotos Registered since 02nd Apr 2011Mon 18-Apr-11 03:50 AM
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#9. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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yonkers, US
          

Yes it's a classic mistake ... It will Also happen with studio lights ..if you try to use a shutter reales faster then what the light can sync this also can happen ...the only way around it is use a sb-800 or 900 and set it to FP high sync on the flash .. And set the camera to the high flash setting above 250

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Mon 18-Apr-11 05:41 PM
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#10. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Paignton, GB
          

>It will Also happen with studio lights ..if you try to use a
>shutter reales faster then what the light can sync this also
>can happen

That's an entirely different effect. What we're talking about here is shading caused by the lens/hood.

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kajphotos Registered since 02nd Apr 2011Tue 19-Apr-11 04:57 AM
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#12. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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yonkers, US
          

>>It will Also happen with studio lights ..if you try to
>use a
>>shutter reales faster then what the light can sync this
>also
>>can happen
>
>That's an entirely different effect. What we're talking about
>here is shading caused by the lens/hood.

it still clips the light... one is caused buy the hood and one is caused buy the shutter ..

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Tue 19-Apr-11 08:31 AM
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#13. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Paignton, GB
          

>it still clips the light...

To be accurate, using a too-fast shutter speed does not affect the light from the flash hitting the subject. It just means that the shutter is not fully open when the flash fires.

Please stick to the topic being discussed.

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PAStime Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2009Tue 19-Apr-11 01:39 AM
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#11. "RE: Lens hood causes shadow on 18-105mm"
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Kingston, CA
          

Thanks - I see it now. Indeed the flash would be unable to light the bottom of the image. Got that backwards Peter

  

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