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FutureLook Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Dec 2003Fri 21-Jan-11 09:22 PM
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"In camera image sharpening"


Miami, US
          

I am shooting raw and I recently read on this thread that images were kind of soft using the camera sharpening default settings. I have a couple of questions:

1. Does camera sharpening works shooting in raw or does it only work with Jpeg?
2.- If it works in raw, where can I locate the settings for in camera sharpening?

Your help is greatly appreciate it.

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kuzzy Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Dec 2005Fri 21-Jan-11 09:48 PM
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#1. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Milford, US
          

When shooting RAW all in camera settings are recorded in the RAW image file and the results of those settings are visible on the LCD on the camera and in ViewNX 2 or CaptureNX 2. These settings can be changed using the "Picture Controls" in either View or Capture. If you use either of these programs or the camera to create a jpg from the raw file those settings cannot be changed in the jpg once they are applied.

Camera settings in raw files are only accessible in Nikon software to the best of my knowledge. When you open a RAW file in lightroom or photoshop for example all you get is the RAW image with no in camera settings applied.

I hope this helps.

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akjim907 Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Aug 2004Fri 21-Jan-11 10:17 PM
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#2. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Anchorage, US
          

Modify Picture Controls (In Camera) page 133

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FutureLook Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Dec 2003Sat 22-Jan-11 12:23 AM
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#3. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Miami, US
          

Thanks for your comments and suggestions guys. It is greatly appreciated.

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007Sat 22-Jan-11 02:45 PM
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#4. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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>Thanks for your comments and suggestions guys. It is greatly
>appreciated.

I think you can easily set In-Camera sharpening to 6 without introducing any negative artifacts.

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skibbyshot Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Apr 2006Mon 24-Jan-11 03:52 PM
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#5. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Little Falls, US
          

Per Scott Kelby & Matt Kloslowski on D-Town TV, no in-camera settings are exported when shooting in RAW. The settings (like Kuzzy said) apply only to jpegs. Your camera displays all photos (even RAW) in jpeg mode, so a photo may look great on the back of the camera and look dull on your computer monitor when using Elements, PS CS5 or Lightroom.

  

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gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005Mon 24-Jan-11 04:05 PM
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#6. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Mon 24-Jan-11 07:11 PM by gkaiseril

Chicago, US
          

If you examine the MakerNote in the RAW files, with an EXIF viewer that displays the full EXIF data, you will see the in-camera settings are recorded as part of the RAW image. Nikon software uses these settings to adjust the RAW data when displaying the NEF file and this is the reason that NEF files look better or closer to the embedded Jpeg thumbnail than viewing the NEF in Adobe Elements, PS, CS 5 or LightRoom, all of which discard this information.

Editing the NEF is Nikon Capture NX 2 will also let one save the NEF file as a NEF file with the changes made added to the MakerNote so that one can remove the various settings and return to the originally shot image with camera settings or all the way back to the RAW data. There is one exception is the Long Exposure Noise Reduction does modify the RAW image to remove the noise introduced by a long exposure.

---- File ----
FileName : DSC_0045.NEF
FileSize : 8.5 MB
FileModifyDate : 2007:12:14 22:37:42-06:00
FileType : NEF
MIMEType : image/x-nikon-nef
---- EXIF ----

Make : NIKON CORPORATION
Model : NIKON D200
Software : Ver.2.00
ModifyDate : 2007:12:14 22:37:39
Compression : JPEG (old-style)
Compression : Nikon NEF Compressed
DateTimeOriginal : 2007:12:14 22:37:39
CreateDate : 2007:12:14 22:37:39
ExposureCompensation : -2
MaxApertureValue : 3.6
WhiteBalance : Auto
SceneCaptureType : Standard
GainControl : Low gain up
Contrast : Normal
Saturation : Normal
Sharpness : Normal
DateTimeOriginal : 2007:12:14 22:37:39
---- MakerNotes ----
MakerNoteVersion : 2.10
ISO : 400
ColorMode : Color
Quality : RAW
WhiteBalance : Auto
Sharpness : Auto
FocusMode : AF-C
WhiteBalanceFineTune : 0
WB_RBLevels : 1.30859375 1.94921875 1 1
ExposureDifference : 0
Compression : JPEG (old-style)
ExposureTuning : 0
ColorSpace : sRGB
ToneComp : Auto
ContrastCurve : (Binary data 4160 bytes, use -b option to extract)
ColorHue : Mode1
HueAdjustment : 0
NEFCompression : Lossy (type 1)
LinearizationTable : (Binary data 1412 bytes, use -b option to extract)
WB_RGGBLevels : 335 256 256 499
ImageOptimization : Normal
Saturation : Auto


See Do Camera Settings Affect RAW (NEF) Files? by Darrell Young , Digital Darrel.

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Mon 24-Jan-11 04:45 PM
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#7. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Mon 24-Jan-11 07:58 PM by briantilley

Paignton, GB
          

>Per Scott Kelby & Matt Kloslowski on D-Town TV, no in-camera
>settings are exported when shooting in RAW.

As Marc (correctly) said above, the camera settings are always saved alongside the image data in a NEF file.

Scott and Matt are right that non-Nikon software like Elements and Lightroom ignore this settings data (apart from white balance), but it is there. Nikon's own View NX2 and Capture NX2 read the data and apply the camera settings when converting the NEF.

Brian
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FutureLook Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Dec 2003Mon 24-Jan-11 09:09 PM
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#8. "RE: In camera image sharpening"
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Miami, US
          

Thanks for all the advises. It is much more clear now. Greatly appreciate them.

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