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rlecocq Registered since 14th Jan 2008Thu 20-Jan-11 01:28 PM
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"Shooting RAW"


Winnipeg, CA
          

Hi folks, first post so go easy on me!
Im comming from a D40 and have to be honest im kind of overwhelmed with this beast.
I will be leaving for a great picture taking opportunity with little time to get comfortable with my new gear so im a little nervous. I plan on shooting in RAW mode so it will give me the most flexability in post processing. My question is, if I choose to apply the setting "vivid" would this be applied to the final RAW image exported into LR or is this effect just stripped off?
Same question for adding Sharpness?

Regards,

Rob.

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pdekman Gold Member Winner in The Nikonians 10th Anniversary Photo Contest Awarded as a regular contributor who offers in-depth knowledge to members who are interested in building efficient work flows. Nikonian since 17th Nov 2005Thu 20-Jan-11 01:49 PM
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#1. "RE: Shooting RAW"
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Swisher, US
          

Picture control settings are applied to the jpg only, the raw sensor data is not altered. Recognize that these settings will affect the in-camera preview image and histogram. also, these settings are stored in the NEF file, but LR ignores them and applies user defined presets instead. Capture NX will read and apply them if you desire to use camera settings, but that is a whole other topic...

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rlecocq Registered since 14th Jan 2008Thu 20-Jan-11 02:28 PM
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Winnipeg, CA
          

>Picture control settings are applied to the jpg only, the raw
>sensor data is not altered. Recognize that these settings
>will affect the in-camera preview image and histogram. also,
>these settings are stored in the NEF file, but LR ignores them
>and applies user defined presets instead. Capture NX will
>read and apply them if you desire to use camera settings, but
>that is a whole other topic...
>
Perfect! Many thanks for the response.

Cheers

Rob./

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007Thu 20-Jan-11 07:55 PM
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US
          

Just to add to what's been said. VIEW NX2, that came with your D7000 will also "read" and respect your RAW settings. So if you shoot in VIVID, then ask VIEW NX2 to convert to JPEG, your settings will "stick".

BTW, if I were you, I'd raise the in-camera sharpening setting to 6. Nikon sets this too low in the factory setup (in my opinion).

Also, maybe take a few shots in VIVID to be sure that's what you really want. With RAW you can always change later, but just saying...

You've got a great camera. Enjoy it!

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jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010Thu 20-Jan-11 11:56 PM
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Estoril, PT
          

If you have enough memory cards or daily download availability, I'd strongly advise you to use the function that saves simultaneously a nef to card 1 and a jpg to card 2.

For those pics that are masterpieces and should be properly worked over in post-processing, you can use the nef and discard the jpg.

For those that you will want to keep as souvenirs, but not have to go through the trouble of post-processing each one, keep the jpg and discard the nef.

I find this to be a great solution, and having two slots on the D7000 makes this easy. The double slot will also allow you an instant backup or an overflow reserve, should you choose so.

I usually keep an 8 GB card on slot 1 for nefs and a 4 GB card on slot 2 for jpgs and small videos.

Keep your eyes open and your mind thirsty.

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rlecocq Registered since 14th Jan 2008Fri 21-Jan-11 01:28 AM
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#6. "RE: Shooting RAW"
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Winnipeg, CA
          

>Just to add to what's been said. VIEW NX2, that came with
>your D7000 will also "read" and respect your RAW
>settings. So if you shoot in VIVID, then ask VIEW NX2 to
>convert to JPEG, your settings will "stick".
>
>BTW, if I were you, I'd raise the in-camera sharpening setting
>to 6. Nikon sets this too low in the factory setup (in my
>opinion).
>
>Also, maybe take a few shots in VIVID to be sure that's what
>you really want. With RAW you can always change later, but
>just saying...
>
>You've got a great camera. Enjoy it!

Bill thanks for the tips.
I will set the sharpening to 6 as you suggest, I do find that my d40 for the most part was pretty sharp..perhaps sharper out of the box. However this setting like the vivid only gets "baked" when I shoot JPG not RAW correct?

Rob./

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BillboTex Registered since 23rd Nov 2010Fri 21-Jan-11 01:59 PM
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#7. "RE: Shooting RAW"
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Houston, US
          

>BTW, if I were you, I'd raise the in-camera sharpening setting
>to 6. Nikon sets this too low in the factory setup (in my
>opinion).


Bill, I looked through the manual for my D7k, and could not find the procedure for "in camera sharpening". Could you provide a manual page number, or step-by-step?

TIA

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billD80 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2007Fri 21-Jan-11 02:21 PM
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#8. "RE: Shooting RAW"
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US
          

>Bill, I looked through the manual for my D7k, and could not
>find the procedure for "in camera sharpening".
>Could you provide a manual page number, or step-by-step?
>
>TIA

P.133 in the manual, plus surrounding pages. It's in the Set Picture Controls part of the SHOOTING MENU.

I believe you have to hit OK BEFORE leaving that screen or the new setting won't hold.

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BillboTex Registered since 23rd Nov 2010Fri 21-Jan-11 03:16 PM
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#9. "RE: Shooting RAW"
In response to Reply # 8


Houston, US
          

Thanks Bill, I was able to make the change!

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MY SETUP
Nikon D7000 with zoomNIKKOR AF-S DX 10-24mm f3.5,
Tamron AF 18-270mm Macro f3.5 Di II VC LD
and Tamron AF 180mm f/3.5 Di SP A/M FEC LD (IF) 1:1 Macro
Nikon R1 Wireless Close-Up Speedlight System,
ZacutoEVF Pro
Two SanDisk 32GB EXTREME PRO SDHC-UHS-1 (45MB/S)
viewNX2 captureNX2 NIKCompleteCollection Ultimate
Photo Mechanic 4.6.6 Annotate Pro
Vegas Movio Studio 10 Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 14

  

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JPJ Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2009Fri 21-Jan-11 12:17 AM
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#5. "RE: Shooting RAW"
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Toronto, CA
          

>Hi folks, first post so go easy on me!
>Im comming from a D40 and have to be honest im kind of
>overwhelmed with this beast.
>I will be leaving for a great picture taking opportunity with
>little time to get comfortable with my new gear so im a little
>nervous. I plan on shooting in RAW mode so it will give me the
>most flexability in post processing. My question is, if I
>choose to apply the setting "vivid" would this be
>applied to the final RAW image exported into LR or is this
>effect just stripped off?
>Same question for adding Sharpness?
>
>Regards,
>
>Rob.

As others have said LR will ignore Nikon's picture settings in RAW files BUT you can use the Camera Calibration feature in LR3 to apply a similar setting and you can batch process your images with it. So if you are a vivid shooter, you can use LR3's vivid setting under the Camera Calibration tab and choose all the images you want to apply it to. I know some shooters that do this as a matter of their normal workflow.

Jason

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