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hyphotographer Registered since 19th Mar 2012Wed 04-Sep-13 08:41 PM
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"Handshake problem"


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I have a Tamron 70-300mm Di f4.5-5.6 without image stabilisation. When shooting at 300mm, I have to crank up to high shutter speeds such as 1/2000 which implies my ISO will have to set at 800 or above, with f/8 for improve sharpness and reduced chromatic aberation.

If I shoot at some low shutter speeds, say between 1/400 and 1/800, I hopeless get hand shake effects.

I guess shooting at 300mm requires a tripod.

The lens do not have brilliant sharpness too.

I would not recommend it for anyone.

  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Wed 04-Sep-13 08:58 PM
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#1. "RE: Handshake problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the lens - it's not a top-quality optic but it can produce some decent results in the right conditions.

Why not check out this article on hand-holding technique?

Brian
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hyphotographer Registered since 19th Mar 2012Thu 05-Sep-13 09:39 PM
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GB
          

The article mentioned the choice of shutter speed reciprocal to the focal length, however, what is the formula for APS-C sensor? No wonder some shots are blur at low shutter speeds, for example, I chose 1/320th sec for 300mm.

  

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Leonard62 Gold Member Awarded for excellent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community, especially of Nikkor Lenses Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009Fri 06-Sep-13 02:23 PM
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>The article mentioned the choice of shutter speed reciprocal
>to the focal length, however, what is the formula for APS-C
>sensor? No wonder some shots are blur at low shutter speeds,
>for example, I chose 1/320th sec for 300mm.

The formula normally used to handhold lenses on APS-C bodies is 1/1.5xFL. So for a 300mm lens that's 1/450 sec. 1/600 sec should not be a problem unless you have a very bad technique like stabbing at the shutter button when taking the shot.

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hyphotographer Registered since 19th Mar 2012Sun 08-Sep-13 03:46 PM
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GB
          

Great to know the formula 1/1.5FL. At high ISO, noise dots are present too. Sometimes, it is more important to get great shots rather than no shot!

I don't mind it now because there are not going to Alamy stockphotos.

  

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jdenning Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Jun 2007Sun 08-Sep-13 06:47 PM
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>The article mentioned the choice of shutter speed reciprocal
>to the focal length, however, what is the formula for APS-C
>sensor? No wonder some shots are blur at low shutter speeds,
>for example, I chose 1/320th sec for 300mm.

My thought is the best way to answer the question of "What shutter speed is the best?" is to do some test shots.

Put it in S mode, start at say 1/300th then go up from there. Then compare the shots and you choose what is the optimum shutter speed for that lens and you.

I know I have a tremor in my right hand that comes into play from time to time. I didn't have that when I was young. So now I can't just use what may work for someone else. It's rather frustrating.

Glad I used to shoot with a View Camera. I like tripod

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Wed 04-Sep-13 09:13 PM
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#2. "RE: Handshake problem"
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Atlanta, US
          

Also keep in mind the high resolution of the D7100 and D7000 will reveal any deficiency if you view the image at 100%.

There is no reason why you should not be able to get sharp images at 1/800 sec. without a tripod.

Brians's link to the article on technique is a good starting point. High ISO and low light can are often associated with low contrast situations - an issue of light rather than the camera or lens. With low contrast its tough to have enough detail to see extreme sharpness.

The Tamron 70-300 should be fine, but at 300mm you are at an extreme focal length. Try it at 250mm and f/8 at 1/500 to 1/800 sec.

VR or IS don't tend to do much beyond 1/500 sec. The technology works based on cycles. The cycles are at 1/1000 sec and you need two cycles for VR.

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hyphotographer Registered since 19th Mar 2012Thu 05-Sep-13 09:19 PM
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#3. "RE: Handshake problem"
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GB
          

Yeah, hand holding techniques is really important.
However, my aim to sell photos at stock photo sites has failed.

Not a shot from the lens has been approved...

  

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luckyphoto Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010Fri 06-Sep-13 12:54 PM
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There's one more trick to shooting hand-held. If you're out of other options, move your D7100 in Cl or Ch(Continuous low or Continuous high) rather than single release. Take about a three-shot burst and then examine them in post to see which is the sharpest. It normally turns out that the 2nd or 3rd shot is much sharper than the first. Not always, but generally.

Larry

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golfercat Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2012Sun 08-Sep-13 04:05 PM
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Have you tried using a monopod?

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