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kathiemt Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2012Mon 08-Jul-13 11:28 AM
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"Getting the D7100"


Selby, AU
          

So, I've been reading up here and there and checking comparisons and have come to the decision that I want to buy a D7100. I believe it's recently come out?

I currently have a D90 that I work with and have gone into a shop to check out the size and weight of the 7100. A little bit heavier but not a lot.

I'm thinking I'd like to get the Sigma 50-500mm as well and believe these two would be a good combination for birdlife and wildlife shots?

Do you think I'll need to use a tripod or could get used to doing handheld? Of those of you using this combination do you do handheld?

Birding is a challenge in itself and it took me a good 2-3 weeks to get used to holding my current 70-300mm without shaking too much - even with the VR switched on.

Looking for feedback on what others are doing and how they find it please.

Oh, and I'm in Melbourne, Australia, if you have suggestions for places to get both.

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elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Mon 08-Jul-13 02:47 PM
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I have both lenses also.

If you struggle with the 70-300, then the Sigma might be a bit much hand-held for any length of time being a little over 2.5lbs heavier.

The OS on the Sigma is very effective, but personally I often use a mono-pod with it when birding.

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JerryLoSardo Silver Member Charter MemberMon 08-Jul-13 04:25 PM
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Frederick, US
          

I don't have the Sigma 50-500, but I do have the Sigma 150-500, and based on my experience with that lens, I strongly recommend that you get at least a monopod, preferably a tripod.

You're going to love the D7100. Best of luck,

Jerry LoSardo
Frederick, Maryland

  

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kathiemt Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2012Mon 08-Jul-13 09:06 PM
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Selby, AU
          

>I don't have the Sigma 50-500, but I do have the Sigma
>150-500, and based on my experience with that lens, I strongly
>recommend that you get at least a monopod, preferably a
>tripod.
>
>You're going to love the D7100. Best of luck,
>
>Jerry LoSardo
>Frederick, Maryland


I'm fine with my 70-300mm now. I've had it for about 3 years - it was just in the first few weeks of getting used to the weight of it and learning how to balance it and myself.

I do have both a tripod and monopod but find them very impeding when doing action shots so prefer to work without them. I do take the monopod and use it like a walking stick sometimes - just so I have it with me, just in case.

I am very much looking forward to getting the D7100. It's going to have to wait till about October - have to save for it and hoping that with Christmas not far from there, it might be on special.

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009Tue 09-Jul-13 09:52 AM
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Dyserth, GB
          

I do have the Sigma 50-500mm OS version which is one of my wildlife lenses. Coupled to my D7100 and D800 it is a very capable lens and it comes into its own when used at f8. I sold my 80-400mm "D" lens to help finance it and it was such a step up in fast focussing and the OS system is superior too. My best results however, have been on a tripod where it really comes into its own.

It is quite heavy and after a few hours handheld then muscles like Popeye can develop! However, it is very usable handheld, otherwise I use it with a tripod, monopod or hide clamp (make sure VR/OS is Off for tripod or hide clamp use). I have many examples of this lens on my website if you're interested.

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kathiemt Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2012Tue 09-Jul-13 11:46 AM
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Selby, AU
          

>I do have the Sigma 50-500mm OS version which is one of my
>wildlife lenses. Coupled to my D7100 and D800 it is a very
>capable lens and it comes into its own when used at f8. I sold
>my 80-400mm "D" lens to help finance it and it was
>such a step up in fast focussing and the OS system is superior
>too. My best results however, have been on a tripod where it
>really comes into its own.
>
>It is quite heavy and after a few hours handheld then muscles
>like Popeye can develop! However, it is very usable handheld,
>otherwise I use it with a tripod, monopod or hide clamp (make
>sure VR/OS is Off for tripod or hide clamp use). I have many
>examples of this lens on my website if you're interested.
>
>Richard


Thanks Richard. Yes, I'd heard from others they were doing hand held and as I move around a lot at parks and follow birdlife and some animal life, it can get cumbersome with a tripod in tow. I'm not very tall (only 5'2) so try not to carry too much stuff.

What's a hide clamp?

And yes, I'll visit your site to view too.

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Dyserth, GB
          

A hide clamp is a tube which screws on to the sill in a wildlife hide. Inside it is a tube which you can slide up and down and rotate. You fit it with a tripod head to give maximum flexibility. See this link for a picture. http://www.uttingsoutdoors.co.uk/Product/964/107740/opticron-bc-2-hide-mount-42605/

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hilleyja Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Feb 2008Tue 09-Jul-13 01:01 PM
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I've had my D7000 for about a year now and have a total of 3 lenses. I have the Nikon 35MM 1.8 Prime, an off-brand 500mm Mirror Lens, and the Sigma 18-250 Macro. I very rarely use the 35mm and 500; the 18-250 is really all the lens I need.

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MarkM10431 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Apr 2013Tue 09-Jul-13 04:26 PM
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jacksonville, US
          

Kathi, I just got my 7100, and it was fantastic birding with it at the rookery near here. I am a novice at birding, but in my gallery, I posted several shots I took on the second outing. the shots were with an old Sigma 70-300. I was pleased especially when I realised i had pushed the ISO to 1000. I think you willhave no problems pushing the ISO to get the faster shutter speeds with the longer lens

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kathiemt Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2012Tue 09-Jul-13 09:13 PM
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Selby, AU
          

>Kathi, I just got my 7100, and it was fantastic birding with
>it at the rookery near here. I am a novice at birding, but in
>my gallery, I posted several shots I took on the second
>outing. the shots were with an old Sigma 70-300. I was
>pleased especially when I realised i had pushed the ISO to
>1000. I think you willhave no problems pushing the ISO to get
>the faster shutter speeds with the longer lens


Yep, birding is both my passion and my challenge. Love it!

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One word of caution is in order when moving from low to high pixel density sensors. Camera shake will be much more visible so using the same techniques might produce disappointing results. You will need to be steadier or use higher shutter speeds than you might be used to. Any improvement in technique, however, will bring great rewards. Hand holding a 50-500 will be a challenge but it is doable with practice and optimizing your hold and breathing.
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kathiemt Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2012Wed 10-Jul-13 09:03 PM
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Selby, AU
          

>One word of caution is in order when moving from low to high
>pixel density sensors. Camera shake will be much more visible
>so using the same techniques might produce disappointing
>results. You will need to be steadier or use higher shutter
>speeds than you might be used to. Any improvement in
>technique, however, will bring great rewards. Hand holding a
>50-500 will be a challenge but it is doable with practice and
>optimizing your hold and breathing.
>Stan
>St Petersburg Russia

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>my
>Nikonians gallery>.




Thanks Stan! I'm up to the challenge and have worked out the breathing thing. I am keen to develop my skills further and am looking forward to it.

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Hi Kathy, another 'stan' here. I wish you lots of luck hand-holding the 'Bigma' and I doubt you'll get sharp images HH. Technique other than breathing will come into play; all the other factors of hand position, arm, and yes, legs & feet. Go get 'em.! stan

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009Wed 10-Jul-13 10:10 PM
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<<I wish you lots of luck hand-holding the 'Bigma' and I doubt you'll get sharp images HH>>

Doubt Kathy will not, or sure Kathy will get sharp images? Either way, sharp images are available with the 50-500mm OS, it's just the technique that makes that possible

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Selby, AU
          

Thanks guys! Yes, I know it's about standing position and breathing and other things

I've seen a lot of shots by others using this lens hand held and I'm in awe. I can't wait to join in!

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Sixmileman Registered since 06th Mar 2013Thu 11-Jul-13 12:46 AM
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Kathie:

You might want to consider the 150-500 mm for birding. A bit lighter and less somewhat costly (?) and an equally good performer. Think about buying a carbon fiber tripod and gimbal head. More money but I think you'll need support to get truly sharp shots with the rig you are contemplating using.

  

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Thu 11-Jul-13 10:20 PM by burchan

Sydney, AU
          

Hi Kathie
In regard to prices in Australia I purchased all my lenses from DDP in Sydney. Sigma is priced at $1299. Nikon 300f4 $1099 and TC-14E II is $465. D7100 price is $1198 gray import so better to get local for $1400 with 2 year Australian varanty. I would suggest 300f4 with converter. This is what everyone in bird in flight uses and this gives you equal to 600mm with DX. You get faster focus, faster lens can be used wide open and it is Nikon. Just look at wildlife forum images. All the best ones are with 300f4.

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Selby, AU
          

>Hi Kathie
>In regard to prices in Australia I purchased all my lenses
>from DDP in Sydney. Sigma is priced at $1299. Nikon 300f4
>$1099 and TC-14E II is $465. D7100 price is $1198 gray import
>so better to get local for $1400 with 2 year Australian
>varanty. I would suggest 300f4 with converter. This is what
>everyone in bird in flight uses and this gives you equal to
>600mm with DX. You get faster focus, faster lens can be used
>wide open and it is Nikon. Just look at wildlife forum images.
>All the best ones are with 300f4.


Thanks for the advice Burchan. You know, that's the best thing about putting it out there, well before I'm ready to purchase? I can weigh up all the suggestions, check out all the resources and know that I'm purchasing well informed

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Dyserth, GB
          

<<I would suggest 300f4 with converter.>>

I second that and if cost is an issue may I suggest the Kenko x1.4 DG Pro TC. I have one and the Nikon 14TC and to be honest, I can tell no difference between the two, except that the Kenko is half the price

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Los Alamos, US
          

The question you need to ask yourself before getting superzoom is what is more important to you the zoom range of the sharpness?
- If zoom range is the priority then 150-500 or 50-500 is the lens for you. Note, most of these lenses are very soft at the maximum magnification (where you would want to use them for birding).
- If image sharpness is the priority then I would suggest to consider a good prime lens such as at Nikon 300mm F/4 or similar used with a tripod. You can also get a 1.4 converter to get extra range. The work with primes may be harder (also no Vibration Reduction), but it may lead to more keepers with proper technique. On the contrary some moments you may miss because you didn't have time to set up.

In the end it's about the best pictures, the ones that impress. Choose which lens will help YOU get such pictures (more flexible or sharper one).

  

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