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olvansta Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Jun 2010Fri 26-Nov-10 08:47 AM
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"Do I buy a D7000"


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Hello. I have a D80 and would like to upgrade but I am torn between a D7000 and a D3000s. Having read Ken Rockwells excellent articles on both cameras I am leaning towards the D7000. My everday lens is the Nikkor 18-200 F3.5-5.6 VR. I would appreciate any comment

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elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Fri 26-Nov-10 11:19 AM
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I assume you meant to type D300s and not D3000s for there is no D3000s that I am aware of. Also if you did not mean the D300s then I think a better choice for decision would be the D3100 versus the D7000. But in my opinion comparing a D7000 to a D300s is more comparable then to a D3100, which while a great camera is worlds apart in features.

So assuming you meant D300s, it would be whether to go for a D7000 or D300s. Well I have never used a D300s to be able to give direct advice. But judging from comments of those who use a D300s, it seems to be a tough call. Many are still experimenting with their D7000’s, but the general consensus seems to be that the D7000 has the potential to be the next best bang for the buck that the D90 was when it was introduced.

The D300s is a more pro build with added features, which seemed to have been a deal breaker for some. Lower FPS and the lack of the OK button providing automatic zoom on a review image has been two that have been mentioned. As such they are passing on the D7000 and waiting on the D300/D300s possible replacement (D400??).

I would also recommend going to a local store and handling both cameras. You may find that the extra size and weight of the D300s might be an advantage or disadvantage depending on your needs and preferences. I like you have a D80 and decided to get the D7000. The difference between the two is dramatic and if you decide to go with the D7000 I would imagine you would not be disappointed. The Expeed II image processor is allowing me to create JPEG’s right out of the camera that just seemed not possible with the D80 in my opinion. Actually everything about the D7000 is just such a huge step up from the D80 you will be amazed.

Hope this helps.

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olvansta Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Jun 2010Fri 26-Nov-10 11:32 AM
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#2. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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AU
          

Thanks for your comment Pete. Yes I did mean the D300s. My next move is to find a store with both units and get a feel for them. I'll be watching the forums closely to help with my decision. I have thought about the D700 but it's beyond my price range and I'm not sure about how well my 18-200 VR F3.5-5.6 would work

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JPJ Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2009Fri 26-Nov-10 01:39 PM
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#4. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

> Lower FPS and the
>lack of the OK button providing automatic zoom on a review
>image has been two that have been mentioned. As such they are
>passing on the D7000 and waiting on the D300/D300s possible
>replacement (D400??).
>

It is funny, prior to the d7000 coming out one of the reasons the d300/300s was superior to the d90 was the ability to shoot 14 bit RAW. Now that the d7000 is out the ability of the d300s to shoot 1 FPS more (2 with a grip) in 12 bit RAW or JPEGS is touted as an advantage. The d7000 shoots 6 fps in 14 bit RAW, the D300/300s shoots 2.5 fps. If you shoot 14 bit RAW the d7000 is better.

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km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009Fri 26-Nov-10 11:36 AM
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#3. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

What do you shoot and do you have intentions of increasing the range of subjects and conditions?
The D80 is a competent camera, is there something specific that you want to upgrade from? Other than a few handling differences and weight, I have not heard of any compelling reason to select 3 year old D300 technology in terms of image quality, over the D7000.
The D7000 is better in terms of:
Metering
Resolution
Low light work
studio low ISO work
AWB
speed of full 14 bit uncompressed image processing
Dynamic Range
Tone smoothness
Video
and possibly AF speed and accuracy(jury is still out but as members get more experience with using the D7000 they are reporting its AF is excellent)
price
weight
etc.

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agitater Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Jan 2007Sat 27-Nov-10 02:43 AM
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#5. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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The D7000 is technically an all-around better camera than the D300/D300s. Weather sealing in the D7000 is also quite good.

Lost in the feature-for-feature technical comparisons is the fact that the D300/D300s uses the original EXPEED processor. The D7000 uses the newer, faster, higher instruction capacity EXPEED 2 processor. That's a big difference AFAIC, and tilts every decision point in favor of the D7000. The combination of the EXPEED 2 processor and the new 16mp Nikon-designed/Sony-fabbed APS-C sensor is nothing short of astonishing, and produces the highest linear resolution of any sensor currently offered by Nikon or most other makers. All that EXPEED 2 processing power handling the amazingly responsive new sensor also means that autofocus/focus acquisition is likely better than anything else made by Nikon or Canon. Nikon has once again pushed the envelope here.

The EXPEED 2 contains more hardware instructions, more logic and does a measurably and noticeably better job of JPG processing out of the box. The D7000 saves images faster (JPG and NEF), responds to commands faster and can accept all current and planned SD cards in its extremely fast card slots. The dual SD card slots in the D7000 are a shooter's dream - use slot 2 for backup when the slot 1 card is full, or use it to automatically backup everything shot to slot 1, and so on. The dual SD slot setup and programming is a direct lift of the wonderful D3/D3s/D3x dual CF slot design.

While the D300/D300s was a superb, award winning design, Nikon has really hit the drawing boards hard to come up with the D7000 in the face of Canon's excellent new 7D. I think Nikon has scored a game winner with the D7000. Frankly, despite the fact I've been shooting a D700 for several years - and a D3s more recently - I'm getting ticked off at the superb quality of the D7000 images I'm getting out of such a tight, light, well-heeled package.

APS-C, here I come (again) for travel. That the D7000 is lighter and apparently almost as tough as the D300s is just one more bonus to add to the foregoing and to all the other pluses noted by other Nikonians in this thread.

I'm thoroughly impressed. Nikon knows how to design and build cameras. Now Nikon is also getting the hang of hi-def video too, so the D7000 is notably advanced over the D300s in that area as well.

There must be a downside, right? Well there is - sort of. After having the weight of a D700 to stabilize my shooting when using non-VR lenses (e.g., 24-70 f/2.8, 50mm f/1.4, etc.), using the D7000 and the eerily sharp little Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 DX is reminder of just how sloppy your handholding technique can get when you've come to rely on significantly heavier gear. However, it only took all of a couple of hours of general shooting for better technique to 'click in' after a bit of concentration. Now I'm getting exceedingly satisfying results out of the superb litte 35mm f/1.8 DX.

There's more, but you get the idea.

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poc Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2008Sat 27-Nov-10 06:41 PM
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#6. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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In my opinion, the D7000 is a more direct upgrade to the D80, especially when it comes to size and feel. My D300s is definitely bulkier which, for me, is a minus.

There are a couple of features on the D300s that I really like that my D90 and I understand the D7000 lack: 1. Auto bracketing is limited to three shots 2. Cable release (I know you have the wireless, but I like the cable).

Finally, the D300s, while it has a greater ability to customize, will have a sharper learning curve. You still have scene modes in the D7k if you want to be lazy and let the camera do the thinking for you.

From my perspective, going the D7k route is a direct update to what you have in the D80, while in the D300s you are essentially changing cameras.

If you really love your D80, then go with D7k. If you want to learn a totally new camera and the D300s appeals to you, then go with that. You won't go wrong either way.

Whatever you do, just decide, do it and enjoy it.

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dankeny Gold Member Nikonian since 29th May 2006Sat 27-Nov-10 11:50 PM
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#7. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Are you crazy? 1080/24! If you don't know what I'm talking about then reread Stan's post. The D300s has a tougher body. Buy some rhino bars for your d7k. This isn't even a close call.

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#8. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

. . . with apologies to all Moderators everywhere . . .

>Are you crazy?

YES! Blubalubalubalubalubaluba! Pffft!

>1080/24! If you don't know what I'm talking
>about then reread Stan's post.

36-24-34! I don't know what you're talking about. JUST KIDDING! So what? Oh yeah - video. Stan who? Oh THAT Stan. St. Petersburg Stan. Nice fellow I think. Good photographer. Those shots of the bar babes were, um, containing of much goodliness.

>The D300s has a tougher body.

Um, okay, but it's really not a contest. My enthusiasm for the D7000 seems to have irritated somebody? Or not?

>Buy some rhino bars for your d7k.

I was in a rhino bar once, but they threw me out 'cause they didn't want me taking pictures. I'm feeling much better now.

>This isn't even a close call.

Okay you win, but the last guy stole all the prizes. All we got left is a banana.

I still say the man should buy a D7000. Excellent camera. Newer processor. Me just tinka itsa gooder than duh udder old not gooder camurah.

Really. You win.

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JPJ Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2009Sun 28-Nov-10 12:54 AM
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#9. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

I presume that David was responding to POC's post that seems to suggest that the D7K was more an upgrade to the D80, not the 300s, not to your post espousing the virtues of the D7k (his reference to Stan's post who is of a similar opinion to you seems to support this).

Honestly I can't think of one good reason to recommend to someone to buy the 300s over the D7k. The D7k takes better photos and video and the 300s costs and weighs more (although it won't cost more for much longer, the local price has dropped almost $400 since the D7k came out, and the store in Toronto I go to tells me that d300s sales these days are a tough going).

The 300s is a great camera, as is the D90, but Nikon has upped the game in DX on all fronts. Reports are even consistently finding that the D7k AF system (with less AF points) is superior to the 300s.

Speaking of superior, if Stan had a D7k could he take and upload some HD video of his favourite photo subjects?

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#10. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Sun 28-Nov-10 01:12 AM by dankeny

Roland, US
          

Howard, I was answering the OP. I think he would be crazy to buy the 300s at about the same price as the 7k. The rhino bars (L bracket) was intended as a solution to the less rugged body if that's his issue. Sorry if my post wasn't clear. None of it had anything to do with your post, except we answered the same post. I don't write for a living.

To OP. Buy the 7k! I hope that's clear enough.

BTW: I get a kick out of kickstart.

Edited to add: Stan, Thanks to Howard's post I went to your gallery. I'm sending you my D7000. Do you need any lenses?

David

  

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#11. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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This is the same issue I have been pondering. It seems to me that the D7k is the best bet unless you are trying to make a living with your gear, and then you would be better suited with a d3 anyhow. Initially I didn't care about the video and thought of it as a waste, but after seeing some the the footage people have taken I am pretty excited to be able to use it for both stills and video.

  

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#12. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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I've got two D300's and a new D7000. I can't see any real reason to choose the D300s over the D7000. The D7000 is a great camera. Any deficiencies are minor, and it is superior in a number of areas.

If you have large hands, you might add the grip.


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#13. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Glenview, US
          

Hello Eric,
I will soon follow in your footsteps as owner of both D300s and D7th (on the way).
What techniques are you using with the D7k when you want to bracket more than 3 shots?
What cable release are you using for the D7k? The dedicated cable release on the front of the D300s is one of my favorite features.

BTW, have you been back to GSMNP? Horrible traffic when we last spoke a few weeks ago.

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US
          

>What cable release are you using for the D7k? The dedicated
>cable release on the front of the D300s is one of my favorite
>features.
>

The D7000 will accept signals from the ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control (Infrared). No cable required, and it's very cheap in comparison to what was needed with the D200/D300...

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#15. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Fri 03-Dec-10 07:32 PM by JohnE Nikon

New HArtford, US
          

I just got my D7000 last night. I shot about 50 - 100 images around the house and at some book shelves testing all my lenses and TCE 1.7. I am impressed.
The cons that I see compared to 300s
-no RAW converter yet for Lightroom, that I am aware of if I am wrong please tell me.
-body construction not as rugged/ water resistant as 300s
-hand grip smaller than 300s( this is no problem for me, and I prefer a smaller size camera. It sounds like some pro's who hand hold camera for thousands of images in a day could have hand cramping issues.)
-Some wildlife shooters prefer the autofocus system of 300s some feel the D7000 is comparable. I have not read too many people who think autofocus is better on the D7000
-6 frames per second vs 7 or 8/ sec
-There are a couple more switches for easy access to modes on the 300s

For most I agree the D7000 is better. If you are a pro who holds a camera all day or a wildlife shooter I think it is more of a toss up.

I have also heard people not liking the hair trigger response of the shutter. I kind of like it and think I may have less motion due to shutter pressing with this camera. I think you could get use to it.

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#16. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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US
          

I have one of those 18-200's and its a fair walk-around snapshot
super zoom. However, my old AFD 80-200 F/2.8 (2-ring) is a far better
image maker from 80-200mm and the low price wonder AFS 35mm F/1.8 is better at 35mm.
I would consider some new glass first...

Also Lightroom 3's new noise utility is good for an extra stop..

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#17. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          


>The cons that I see compared to 300s
>-no RAW converter yet for Lightroom, that I am aware of if I
>am wrong please tell me.
>-body construction not as rugged/ water resistant as 300s
>-hand grip smaller than 300s( this is no problem for me, and I
>prefer a smaller size camera. It sounds like some pro's who
>hand hold camera for thousands of images in a day could have
>hand cramping issues.)
>-Some wildlife shooters prefer the autofocus system of 300s
>some feel the D7000 is comparable. I have not read too many
>people who think autofocus is better on the D7000
>-6 frames per second vs 7 or 8/ sec
>-There are a couple more switches for easy access to modes on
>the 300s
>

Lightroom RC 3.3 has been out for several weeks, it will convert d7k raws.

It bears noting that the d7k shoots 6 FPS in 14 bit RAW whereas the 300s only shoots 2.5 fps even with the grip. The 300s will shoot 7/8 fps if your shoot jpegs or 12 bit RAW.

The d7k is not as heavy as the 300s but I think its a little premature to declare it not as rugged or water resistant. How would you test for that without basically torture testing the two together?

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#18. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Fri 03-Dec-10 11:45 PM by JohnE Nikon

New HArtford, US
          

Jason,
Thanks. My LR update did not automatically find RAW converter. I will find it.
The D7000 body is only partly magnesium and partly plastic. It feels rugged to me but is not as heavy as the 300s. I am not certain in reality which is more rugged or waterproof. My bet would be that the 300s is both, due to "pro" specs but I am not sure.
Thanks for clarifying frames/ second.

Keep in mind I had a choice and chose D7000. The cons I mention were what I assumed before going ahead with my purchase.All else were pro's.

I just downloaded and installed the RAW converter. It works like a charm. Thanks again Jason. Now I'm back to shooting RAW.
I love this web site.

Tethered capture does not work with this update for me. Is there another update for tethered capture yet?

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#19. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

>Jason,
>Thanks. My LR update did not automatically find RAW
>converter. I will find it.
>The D7000 body is only partly magnesium and partly plastic.
>It feels rugged to me but is not as heavy as the 300s. I am
>not certain in reality which is more rugged or waterproof. My
>bet would be that the 300s is both, due to "pro"
>specs but I am not sure.
>Thanks for clarifying frames/ second.
>
>Keep in mind I had a choice and chose D7000. The cons I
>mention were what I assumed before going ahead with my
>purchase.All else were pro's.
>
>I just downloaded and installed the RAW converter. It works
>like a charm. Thanks again Jason. Now I'm back to shooting
>RAW.
>I love this web site.
>
>Tethered capture does not work with this update for me. Is
>there another update for tethered capture yet?

Tethered capture has not been added for the d7k by Adobe yet. I suspect it won't take long though.

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#22. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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>>Jason,
>
>Tethered capture has not been added for the d7k by Adobe yet.
>I suspect it won't take long though.
>
>Jason


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#29. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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>>What cable release are you using for the D7k? The
>dedicated
>>cable release on the front of the D300s is one of my
>favorite
>>features.
>>
>
>The D7000 will accept signals from the ML-L3 Wireless Remote
>Control (Infrared). No cable required, and it's very cheap in
>comparison to what was needed with the D200/D300...<

My Phottix GPS came with a plug in cable release.

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srosengard Basic MemberSat 04-Dec-10 04:28 AM
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#20. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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I have the exact same situation, I have decided to go with the D7000. The big reason is $$$. The issue I have is I have not been able to find a store in the Chicago area that has a display model of the D7000. Although I will probably purchase the D7K, I would like to put my hands around one. The other problem I have noticed, is the few stores that have the D7K are selling it as a kit with the Lens, which I do not need.

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Jerryg Registered since 22nd Jun 2006Mon 06-Dec-10 03:04 AM
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#21. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Mon 06-Dec-10 03:07 AM by Jerryg

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Being blessed with a few Nikon bodies, and many Nikkor lenses, I too can vouch for choosing the D7000 over the D300s.

My reason to purchase the D7k was to upgrade my walkabout body from a lightly used D40 to the D7k. Quantum leap forward in technology.

I also use both a D300 & D700, all having features unique, and suitable to the task at hand. I am not giving away my D700, nor will I be shelving the others. They all have merit.

One thing that struck me right away was the improved performance of the 2and generation Nikkor 18-200mm zoom with VRii. This lens was a gift for my wife for vacation shooting, grabbed in error as I ran out into the early morning light with the D7k on day one.

I also had to buy the D7k with kit lens. As i grew old waiting for a body only, whilst on a NYC major waiting list. I found two D7k kits sitting on a shelf in the tourist area(Boston). Paid only the retail pricing. If you want one, go looking, and look in places you normally might not shop in? Fifteen hundred dollars in these recessionary times?

Finally, pardon this long non technical laden response, to the original ,
"buy it, you'll love it"

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#30. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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>
>I also had to buy the D7k with kit lens. As i grew old
>waiting for a body only, whilst on a NYC major waiting list. I
>found two D7k kits sitting on a shelf in the tourist
>area(Boston). Paid only the retail pricing. If you want one,
>go looking, and look in places you normally might not shop in?
> Fifteen hundred dollars in these recessionary times?
>
Why not approach the merchant with an offer to buy one of the Nikkors with rebates instead of the kit lens?
The smarter ones will break the kit for you, mine did.

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dhensley75287 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006Mon 06-Dec-10 06:15 PM
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#23. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Hi Graham,

Just migrated from a D80 to D7k about 3-4 weeks ago, so this response doesn't address the D3000s option. The main driver for me was higher ISO performance / better noise control, but the additional goodies I got were enough justification in themselves. It's been a stream of pleasant suprises:

- Improved higher ISO image quality--I shoot events, and every stop helps
- Mag / sealed body -- I also backpack, and grit/moisture/bumps are a concern
- Built in intervalometer -- I had to kludge a Cannon one for my D80. Nice not to have to hump yet one more thing with yet one more cord and yet one more battery to maintain
- Status available on LCD -- nothing like getting a tripod shot set at eye level then realizing that the shooting mode isn't set and having to pull the tripod back or remove the camera to see the status display
- Soft button assignments easily seen and changed from LCD status display
- More flexibility with soft button assignments
- Shooting mode moved from button to hard dial--persists across power cycles
- User setting modes
- Great support for older AI, AI-S, and AF lenses
- Features like a "pro" body, but smaller--better for backpacking and my small hands
- Has almost all status in viewfinder, and has a lot more button controls--can pretty much see the complete status of the camera (including auto ISO) and make changes without removing my eye from the viewfinder
- IR sensor on back
- Real MUP
- Auto sensor clean
- Dual SD cards, can be redundant
- Auto ISO works like it always should have on the D80, and you can see what it's doing in the viewfinder
- Viewfinder has arrows on rangefinder to help with manual focus
- Scene modes actually look pretty good, should be quite useful when at parties and events if I'm participating
- Can set focus options via hard button and see status in viewfinder
- Liveview for shooting in awkward positions
- 16MP--yeah, I know, but for event shooting and some outdoor stuff it's nice to be able shoot wider and crop
- Moving the ^%^$$## shooting mode and focus buttons out of the shutter area
- Really, really nice method of controlling focus mode and points
- Choice of bit depth and compression on nef
- Level. Sounds trivial but I found myself using it a lot on a recent hiking trip


Neat, but not huge deals for me:
- Focus tweaking
- video
- Appears to be great WB control (I shoot RAW only)
- 6 fps
- 100% viewfinder

Issues I've had coming from the D80:

- It's a lot of camera with a lot of options--just deciding how I want the focus and metering mode controls mapped to buttons is difficult, much less setting up the user modes
- It's a lot of camera with a lot of buttons that can now be controlled by feel and have the results visible in the viewfinder. Now my fingers must be trained to find the buttons
- It's absolutely unforgiving of poor holding/shooting technique
- I'm seeing the issues with the 18-200 compromise design. Still a great lens, but tradeoffs are more obvious
- Hair trigger shutter that I seem to constantly trip when feeling for the AE-L/AF-L button


I'm absolutely delighted, have no hot pixels, can live with the ISO button location that apparently was DPReview's most significant issue (/snark), and think it'll be a great camera for me for many years.

Good luck and have fun with whatever you end up with.

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#24. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Hello Graham,
Now that I have a D7k in hand, I can expand on my previous post.

As the owner of both D90 and D300s my impressions are that the D7k is a D90 on low level steroids. Very similar ergonomics. A great improvement over the D80, but at this early stage, not the game changer that I have seen described. It is an extremely quick and responsive camera in all functions. I was particularly impressed with the quickness and accuracy focusing in live view. I am also seeing some of the little quicks being reported by others such as not working with some Sigma lenses, auto focus not working here and there. these are things that are to be expected in any new model (of anything) when it gets field tested by the end users.

This is a great camera that will not disappoint you. If you want the latest, this is it...

Having said all this, I have renewed respect for the D300s for its rugged build, image quality and ability to customize. My original idea was that perhaps with the D7k I would find the best of both worlds and would shoot with only one body, but this does not appear to be the case at this point. I do both landscape and social functions and I will probably stick with the two body approach.

FINALLY, if you are a value shopper, you have just hit the jackpot. It is my understanding that prices on both D90 and D300s have dropped and will continue to do so as a result of the D7k. This gives you a great opportunity to pick up a D300s (a whole lot of camera) at a discounted price. If you don't need to have the latest technology, you could pick up a bargain.

Hope this helps,

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Chris Ross Leong Registered since 18th Nov 2010Wed 08-Dec-10 03:58 PM
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#25. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Wed 08-Dec-10 04:01 PM by Chris Ross Leong

Sherman Oaks, US
          

For me the D7k is a total game changer.
Coming from a D90 the upgrade was a no-brainer. The D90 doesn't accept AIs MF lenses, the D7k does. Half my lens collection came to life again.

Plus I'm a film maker. There's a whole new forum here called DSLR video that was started because the D7k came out and making serious film style imagery is at last practicable using the D7k.

That's a game changer to me.

For those of us with large hands or who have to hold it all day, think of it as a D7k for $1200 for small folk, and a D7k+ at $1500 for large hands. The + being, of course, the MB-D11 grip, which also adds vertical controls, but mainly height, and therefore grip surface.

Oh, BTW, I'm not a stills pro any more so the only other body I have is an F3HP, which I bought new and must have put a couple thousand rolls through by now. I sold my DCS cameras and also my D90.

Oh, I do technically own several D40s, all of which are in the possession of several associates, partners, and relatives - who refuse to give them back.

  

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#26. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

For me the d7k has a number of game changing features:

- the d7k has much better ISO performance than the d300s and d90 (which have the same performance). I am literally shooting at 2x the ISO levels I was able to with my d90 to get similar results.

- It also shoots at over 2x the rate of the d300s with grip if you shoot 14 bit RAW. The d90 shot only 12 bit RAW and shot them slower than the d7k does for 14 bit RAW. At 6 fps (7fps with grip) for 14 bit RAW you can shoot sports, BIF and action in 14 bit RAW whereas with the 300s at 2.5 FPS you likely would not.

- I can stand behind the camera and use the wireless remote.

- ISO 100 with incredible dynamic range

- Real user setting banks accessible by way of dial, as opposed to menu accessible setting banks that only allow you to save a few items each.

- Let's not forget the battery life on the d7k, it is easily twice the capacity of the 300s and d90.


The more you use the camera the more you will appreciate the differences. There is a reason the d90 and d300s prices have plummeted since the d7k was released.

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#27. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Paignton, GB
          

>- Real user setting banks accessible by way of dial, as
>opposed to menu accessible setting banks that only allow you
>to save a few items each.

The D300/300s/700 do have "real banks" - four for Custom Settings and four for Shooting Menu - covering at least as many items as the D7000 does in U1 and U2. Yes, they are only accessible via the menu, but it's pretty fast especially if you put them in "My Menu".

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#28. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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In addition ... The D7000 allows only 2 possible combinations of shooting banks.

The D300 has 4 custom menu banks and 4 shooting menu banks. These banks can be used in any combination giving you up to 16 separate custom user modes vs the 2 availble on the D7000. Sure you can not just turn a dial to choose these modes but as Brain said these are easily accessible by using My Menu. The trade off between ease of access is greatly offset be the much higher level of customization.

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#31. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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Toronto, CA
          

>In addition ... The D7000 allows only 2 possible combinations
>of shooting banks.
>
>The D300 has 4 custom menu banks and 4 shooting menu banks.
>These banks can be used in any combination giving you up to 16
>separate custom user modes vs the 2 availble on the D7000.
>Sure you can not just turn a dial to choose these modes but as
>Brain said these are easily accessible by using My Menu. The
>trade off between ease of access is greatly offset be the much
>higher level of customization.
>

Yes but to make all the changes the d7000 allow you to do with the spin of a dial you have to access your shooting bank AND your custom settings banks, both accessible via menu. Sure you get essentially 4 banks that way (or theoretically 16) but it is not exactly convenient. I am still not sure why they split the settings up that way.

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#32. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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I would like to see Nikon let you make changes to a scene mode. These could be stored or default back as needed. I have not even used a scene mode on my D7000 to confirm it works, but to be able to make changes to f-stop, shutter, iso etc would be very nice.

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#34. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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"I am still not sure why they split the settings up that way."

Greater flexibility and a higher level of customization.

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#38. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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>"I am still not sure why they split the settings up
>that way."

>
>Greater flexibility and a higher level of customization.

Touche!

However, unlike the settings banks in the d300/300s you can lock/save your settings for U1/U2 so that you can't accidentally change them when you forget that you are using a custom bank.

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#33. "RE:Two questions"
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Yorkshire, GB
          

Two questions
1/ if a D400 was available now at 50% more than the D7000 - which would you upgrade to?
2/ Do you want a high end amateur body (D7000) with high resolution, or a pro grade body with lower resolution?

Photography is a bit like archery. A technically better camera, lens or arrow may not hit the target as often as it could if the photographer or archer does not practice enough.

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#35. "RE:Two questions"
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>Two questions
>1/ if a D400 was available now at 50% more than the D7000 -
>which would you upgrade to?
>2/ Do you want a high end amateur body (D7000) with high
>resolution, or a pro grade body with lower resolution?

Having the D7000 now, the answer is no, unless the D400 offered a boatload more. (20mp with good noise handling).

The D7000 has a very good body and the resolution/image quality is stunning. It feels as solid as my D200, and the features I actually use are easily accessed.

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#36. "RE:Two questions"
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Interesting question, Len

Speaking just for myself, I would much prefer a future "D400" to have a 12MP sensor with high-ISO performance at the D3S level. I don't need more than 12MP for my purposes.

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#37. "RE:Two questions"
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Monterey Bay, US
          

I will very likely keep my D7000 and pass on the D400.
I would much rather have a D700s or D800 with the FullFrame 12mp D3s sensor
+ all the D7000 technology ramped up even further.

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#39. "RE: Do I buy a D7000"
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I just picked up a d7k after having used a d80 for the past two years, and let me tell you it is a night and day upgrade. I cant give you any help deciding between a d300 and the d7k but after contemplating the two I decided the d7k would work best for me. So far I have no regrets.
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