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wcm2831 Registered since 18th Nov 2012Tue 18-Dec-12 01:26 AM
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"d7000 vs d600 for manual focus lenses"


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I have the following manual focus lenses:
1. micro-nikkor 55mm
2. series E 28mm
3. series E 70-210
4. Tamron 90mm macro
5. Vivitar series 1 28-105
6 500 mm f5 reflex Nikkor
7. Tokina 20-35 Canon mount

I have been using these lenses on a Canon 60D using an adaptor ring but wish to upgrade into a Nikon DSLR. I know I cant use these lenses to full capacity unless I go with at least the d7000. I was going to get the d7000 but now see the D600 as an option. So my question is if these lenses would perform any better or worse on the fx or dx format. I like nature photography, landscape, macro, wildlife, probably more geared to landscape.

  

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gpoole Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 14th Feb 2004Tue 18-Dec-12 03:53 AM
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#1. "RE: d7000 vs d600 for manual focus lenses"
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Farmington Hills, US
          

I don't have either a D7000 or a D600, but I have made the transition from DX (D90 & D300) to FX (D800 & D4). I also have the 28, 55, 70-210, and 500mm lenses you list and have used several other MF Nikkors on my DSLRs. My observations and comments are:


  • I think the FX bodies are much easier to focus using manual focusing than the DX bodies when the bodies have the standard focusing screen.

  • For a D7000 I would recommend a Katz Eye replacement screen. I installed a Katz Eye screen in my D300 and it significantly improved manual focusing. The split image rangefinder and the micro-prism in the Katz Eye screen make manual focusing much more precise.

  • The D7000 will have approximately the same field of view as your 60D, the same lenses on a D600 will have a wider field of view.

  • I believe the first six lenses were all originally made for 35mm film so they should work fine on the D600. I have compared several of my MF Nikkor primes to my next to latest generation Nikon f/2.8 zooms. Most of them did as good or better than the zooms at the same focal length and aperture at both the center and corners.

  • You cannot easily adapt your Canon mount lens to a Nikon body, because Canon has a shorter lens mount to film/sensor distance than Nikon. This means that without some optics in the adapter, the lens cannot focus to infinity. Optics in a Canon to Nikon adapter would probably change the focal length of the lens.

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wcm2831 Registered since 18th Nov 2012Tue 18-Dec-12 04:47 PM
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#3. "RE: d7000 vs d600 for manual focus lenses"
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It looks like the Katz is $160. I would probably need to pay someone to swap it out. So now the price difference between the d7000 vs d600 is $200 less. Do you think I will be happy with the d600 focusing screen? I have always manually focused and will probably continue until I would purchase new lenses.

  

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gpoole Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 14th Feb 2004Tue 18-Dec-12 05:34 PM
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Farmington Hills, US
          

I swapped the screen myself in my D300 without problem.

I've never touched a D600 so I can't say how good the viewfinder is. I think the D800 standard viewfinder screen is usable for manual focusing. If the viewfinder in the D600 is equal to the D800, it should not be a problem. Note that the green focus dot in the viewfinder works with MF lenses, but I don't think it's precise enough for critical focus at large apertures. At apertures in the f/8 region the focus dot shouldn't be a problem because DOF would allow enough focus tolerance.

For macro I prefer to use Live View for focusing. With Live View you can move the focus point to any spot on the image and zoom the LCD to 100% and more for focusing. That is much more precise than any viewfinder will give. Live View should work equally well on either the D7000 or D600.

Even though I'm comfortable focusing manually with the D800, I'd still buy a Katz Eye screen for it if/when the screen is available. For me the split image rangefinder in the screen is much easier to use than judging the sharpness on the ground glass of the standard screen.

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Fabien65 Registered since 19th Jan 2012Tue 18-Dec-12 06:04 AM
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FR
          

Hi all,

Gary gave you very good advises.

I own a D7000, and I like using my old MF Nikkor for fun. So that’s possible, but, according to me, not really easy because the viewfinder is not large enough. I don’t have an FX Body yet, but I imagine it should be easier.

Fabien.

  

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NicoDesign Registered since 16th Dec 2012Wed 19-Dec-12 03:38 AM
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#5. "RE: d7000 vs d600 for manual focus lenses"
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The price between d7000 and d600 is not $200 even after the the Katz Eye swap. I saw on Daily Deals D7000 for $759.99, not sure if it included any glass but doubt it, just the body. I was considering that after D300s search yielded little, but I'm saving money for a D600 instead and start with a Full Frame. D600 is still $1950+ or $1999 with a lens.

I still wish D600 had 2-9 or 2-5 bracketing though (like D300s has)

  

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benmlee Registered since 03rd Jul 2012Wed 19-Dec-12 03:39 AM
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#6. "RE: d7000 vs d600 for manual focus lenses"
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Don't know about the D600, but the viewfinder on the D7000 is relatively small, so is hard to focus manually. Katzeye focusing screens helps a lot as well as the DK-21M magnifying eyepiece. Katzeye is better than focusingscreen.com. In the end, using the green dot on the D7000 is the most foolproof.

  

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Wed 19-Dec-12 01:35 PM by Leonard62

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Make sure that all your lenses have an AI mount otherwise you can damage the D600 and D7000.

Of course the Canon mount lens can't be converted or adapted to Nikon mount. Your two series E lenses and the 500mm f5 mirror lens are fine. Have a real close look at the 55mm macro and the Vivitar lens mount.

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jgamble Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd May 2007Thu 20-Dec-12 12:14 AM
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Thu 20-Dec-12 12:16 AM by jgamble

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I use my D7000 with the 55 f2.8 ais micro and 300 f4.5 ais. Both are programed in and show correct f-stop and work perfectly. I do have a Katz eye screen installed, mostly for my Nikkor 500 f4P.

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Thu 20-Dec-12 02:46 AM by poc

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I have both the D7th and D600. My comparison is without the Katz eye screen.
The D600 has a larger viewing screen and is thus much easier to manually focus than the D7th without the Katz eye screen. They are comparable in size and features, some of the drawbacks have already been stated here.
The D600 is the closest to my old film camera. I find it difficult to manually focus with DX bodies. With the exception of the Canon, your lenses should function fine on the D60.

POC

Addition: There has been a significant price drop for the D600 in the past few days.

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I have a D7000 and only use manual focus lenses. I wear glasses and have no problem at all. But if I were a buyer now I would be very tempted to get the D600. Very tempted.
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