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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Mon 08-Oct-12 04:56 PM
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"Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"


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Hello Everyone............I ordered a new D7000 from the B&H store about 3 weeks ago and it is backfocusing......It focused okay using Live View....... I tested it using a tripod in AF-S mode with a single center focus point and even a correction of -20 was not enough to fix the backfocus..........Anyways I sent the camera back and recieved another new D7000 camera 4 days ago and it is backfocusing the same exact way as the first camera I ordered....... I am getting ready to send this 2nd camera back sometime this week for another D7000 camera.....I will let everyone know if this 3rd camera is working properly.

  

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RSchussel Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Nov 2008Mon 08-Oct-12 05:09 PM
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#1. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Are you sure it is not your lens?

Bob

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Mon 08-Oct-12 05:22 PM
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#2. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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I am positive it is not my lens........ I used a Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens....I used my lens on a D90 , D300S and a D700 and it is razor sharp with these camera bodies but not on the D7000.

  

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#33. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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>I am positive it is not my lens........ I used a Nikon
>80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens....I used my lens on a D90 , D300S and
>a D700 and it is razor sharp with these camera bodies but not
>on the D7000.

I think it is time to have some confidence in your own ability and experience. You should be able to take a camera out of it's box, put a lens on it, and within the usual parameters that affect quality, get sharply focussed pictures every time.

If that doesn't happen, you read this forum and come to the conclusion that you are doing something wrong, you don't know the camera, it is so sophisticated you need to adjust this or that, post some details, no body else has this problem etc,

I had that kind of doubt since Christmas Day when I took the first shot with my D7000. Since then I have persevered through the trough of despond as so many shots have to be dumped, so many opportunities lost, so many sub standard shot have to be lived with because that's all I've got. The amazing super fast accurate focus system proves to be great at doing sharply focussed ears and blurry eyes even with well proven lenses, usually at the most inopportune moments.

Well, I've had enough of this. I know how to take a picture, compose, focus and get the shot, I don't need to be told how to do these basic things, or how to read an instruction book as if I was a novice, and a couple of weeks ago I nearly threw the thing in the river.

It's now in a Nikon repairer in Glasgow waiting to be fixed under the warranty. I phoned them today to see how it was going(still in the queue) and they confirmed that they were doing his kind of thing all the time - it's not an imaginary phenomena. HOWEVER the camera companies only allow them to give very vague repair reports, leaving it to the imagination of the victim and the internet to fill in the gaps.

So, PHOTOMAN2112, don't waste your time posting questions about the problem or feeling you need to defend yourself here any more, despite the nay sayers, your camera is clearly faulty if it cannot do what can easily be done with older "inferior" models. If your latest replacement doesn't give you sharp shots of someone's face in bright light within 5 minutes, give up with it, go back to the D700 or 300s, or TRY OUT IN A SHOP a different new camera model. That's my plan for when the D7000 comes back from the repairer anyway.

My biggest regret, apart from buying the brand new body mail order, is that I allowed my own confidence and judgement to be so undermined as to put up with the useless thing for so long, instead of sending it straight back!

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#74. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          

I am so glad I read these posts.
My D7000 is going back due to the same problems.
I had a D90 and got superior photos from that. I'm just lucky that my dad had a spare D300 which I can use while the D7000 gets repaired.

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#87. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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I just sent my D7000 back to Nikon repair also for focus issues. I thought I was "upgrading" from D300 to D7000. But it seems as though the D300 is the better workhorse. Aside from the video availability on the D7000 I would have never purchased this. So disappointed.

  

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#3. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Before sending any more cameras back, can you post your test images with metadata intact? It is against long odds that several cameras have the identical AF problem.
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#4. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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I do know that both of the D7000 cameras I ordered have the focus adjusted identically from the factory and they are both backfocusing.....They both focused perfectly using Live View and I know it's not user error because I have been shooting professionally for a long time...... I have no problems focusing the D300S , D90 or the D700.

  

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#5. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Mon 08-Oct-12 09:48 PM by dm1dave

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Sorry to hear that you are having problems.

From the above post it sounds like your best recourse is to return the camera. I would probably get a refund from the retailer and source the replacement from someplace else.

I hope that the next one works as expected.

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#6. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Vallejo, US
          

>I do know that both of the D7000 cameras I ordered have the
>focus adjusted identically from the factory and they are both
>backfocusing.....They both focused perfectly using Live View
>and I know it's not user error because I have been shooting
>professionally for a long time...... I have no problems
>focusing the D300S , D90 or the D700.


What you didnt say is whether the problem exists for all of your lens or just the one zoom

  

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Port Charlotte, US
          

I'm totally with Bob and Stan. Before you send more cameras try the focus with a different lens. The fact that you got the same exact result with the same lens and two different bodies would tell me the lens could be the problem.

Go to a store that sells Nikon and try out other lenses first.

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#8. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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It is not a lens problem.....The Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens focused perfectly using Live View on both copies of the D7000.....If the lens was not focusing correctly it would not be sharp using Live View.....I also tried the lens on 4 different Nikon camera bodies and it focused perfectly..........I also tried other lenses on both D7000 camera bodies and none of them are razor sharp except when using Live View....... Apparently Nikon is sending out quite a few of these D7000's which are not adjusted correctly at the factory.....I believe there are many more D7000's which have been sold to customers which are not focusing correctly and many photographers might not even be aware of the problem.

  

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#9. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

>I believe there are many more D7000's which have
>been sold to customers which are not focusing correctly and
>many photographers might not even be aware of the problem.

Let's concentrate on solving your own camera's problem, whatever the cause may be. If a large number of D7000's were experiencing this same problem we would certainly have heard about it in this Forum long before now!

As Stan suggested, we'll be able to help more if you could post some examples with EXIF intact, and provide some more details of your camera settings. Thanks!

Brian
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#10. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Jamison, US
          

I agree, I thought I had the same problem until someone more experienced fixed the settings I had programmed in while playing with the camera. Ever since then its been razor sharp on all lenses.

Go to a local camera store and have them take a look

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#14. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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>
>As Stan suggested, we'll be able to help more if you could
>post some examples with EXIF intact, and provide some more
>details of your camera settings. Thanks!

Why is he still refusing to post a few examples with the EXIF intact plus details of the camera settings ?

Humm - what could it be ?
Jacques G

  

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#11. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Tue 09-Oct-12 06:50 PM by dm1dave

Lowden, US
          

Sorry, but I have to ask.

If you are so positive that your camera is not functioning properly the why are you continuing to post about this issue here?

We obviously cannot fix a defective camera. You have tested, to your satisfaction, showing that the camera is not living up to your expectations. Now, you really should just send the camera back. Talking about it here is not doing you any good.

I really do hope that you get a replacement that works for you.

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#12. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Hello again everyone.....I just recieved an RMA from B&H Photo to return my second defective D7000 ...... I will be recieving my third D7000 from B&H sometime next week...I have many photographer friends and I will be testing this third D7000 with 6 different professional lenses and I also have access to 7 professional camera bodies......I hope I have better luck with this third D7000 body......I will update this post next week.

  

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#13. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

Just for a clarification, did you perform the camera two button reset?
The reason we are all somewhat reluctant to assume two random cameras have had the identical problem is that we all lived through the period when this model came out with thousands of cameras being sent back because of focus problems. Here on Nikonians, through working with the user, who usually had never used more than 12mpx cameras before, the vast majority of reported focus problems were figured out and minor adjustments to shooting habits resolved the problems. Only a few turned out to be actual adjustment or defect problems.
Other forums with less patience continued to raging debates for months over "defective" cameras, until people got more time with them and the issues faded away. Few focus problems are reported today and we assume that a stealthy tech did not sneak into owners homes at night and repaired the defective cameras, but gradually, they "fixed" themselves after a few thousands frames. Now the D7000 has a reputation of being solid, reliable and the performance standard by which all other crop cameras are judged by.
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kippford Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Feb 2012Sat 13-Oct-12 05:57 PM
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#15. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Sat 13-Oct-12 06:13 PM by kippford

falkirk, GB
          

From what I can make out the vast mojority of people on the internet say their camera was better after repair. Mine certainly was. But still wasnt great. Other people checked it out and felt the same. Istarted a thread on this forum several months ago asking if anyone had fixed their focus issues through improved technique. Not one person answered yes.
Now the shutter seems to have fallen off about a month ago and I dislike the camera so much I havent bothered to send it back yet.
There is a definate reluctance to accept that a D7000 may have focus issues on this site. I am not saying they all do. I have no idea how many do but it seems to quite a few of them. I still love my d40x and really wish I had not tried to "upgrade"

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Sat 13-Oct-12 06:11 PM
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#16. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

I reset the camera several times and it still backfocused ......I downloaded a focus test chart and both of my D7000 copies were backfocusing and if I set the lens adjusment to a -20 it would get better but would still be backfocusing....I probably needed a focus adjusment somewhere between a -27 to a - 40 to correct the problem....I also brought both cameras outside on a tripod and photographed a few street signs and license plates using Manual Focus , Live View focus and the standard autofocus through the viewfinder......The pictures using Manual and Live View focus were all razor sharp and the standard autofocus through the viewfinder were soft and when I cropped all sets of pictures the problem became even more noticable............I believe many people who use the D7000 probably do not crop any of their pictures therefore they are convinced that the pictures are sharp with no backfocusing problems......... I would ask anyone with a D7000 camera to take some pictures using the 3 different focusing methods and crop all pictures and I believe there would be more people who would realize that their D7000 are not producing razor sharp pictures.

  

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Sat 13-Oct-12 07:26 PM
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#17. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

I would ask anyone with a D7000 camera to
>take some pictures using the 3 different focusing methods and
>crop all pictures and I believe there would be more people who
>would realize that their D7000 are not producing razor sharp
>pictures.

How about that for razor sharp focussing - this photo was taken handheld with the D7k - back button focussing - lens 70-200 f2.8 + TC1.4 at 1/60s f4 - ISO 500 AND CROPPED about 60%.


Jacques G





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NDGraham Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Jan 2007Sun 14-Oct-12 01:13 PM
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#18. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Dorval (Montreal), CA
          

Salut Jacques!
That's a beautiful shot of Woody Woodpecker. Good example of what the D7K can do.
Our fall colours are justing getting started here in Quebec so I look forward to more of your photos.
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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Sun 14-Oct-12 01:23 PM
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#19. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

Salut Neil - Thank you for your comments.
The fall colors are almost over here in Piedmont, Quebec. Now it is cleaning up time - milions of leaves on the ground.
I have spotted a Falcon a few days ago - he captured a small chipmunck ( petit suisse ). I went to the Piedmont city hall and the mayor informed me that a family of five Falcons is living in the woods near Prevost, Quebec.

If I am lucky the next time I see them I will have my camera ready.
I do not know if Falcons do stay around for the winter - I have to check that out.


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#20. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

I have now uploaded 3 D7000 focus test pictures in my gallery.

  

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Sun 14-Oct-12 05:30 PM
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#21. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

>I have now uploaded 3 D7000 focus test pictures in my
>gallery.

Why do you have 3 difference expositions settings for the same test ?
Manual focus 1/100 @ f8 - LiveView 1/50s @ f8 and Viewfinder 1/125s @ f8.

Your charts looked a bit crooked - not really flat.

Do you mean that your camera is OK when doing the regular shooting and you found the back focussing only in photos of the chart ?

Jacques G

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Sun 14-Oct-12 06:49 PM
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#22. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>>I have now uploaded 3 D7000 focus test pictures in my
>>gallery.
>
>Why do you have 3 difference expositions settings for the same
>test ?
>Manual focus 1/100 @ f8 - LiveView 1/50s @ f8 and Viewfinder
>1/125s @ f8.
>
>Your charts looked a bit crooked - not really flat.
>
>Do you mean that your camera is OK when doing the regular
>shooting and you found the back focussing only in photos of
>the chart ?
>
>Jacques G
The shutter speeds are different due to the changes in the natural lighting coming through a window and the different speeds have no effect on the test results.......This particular focus chart has to be photographed at an angle and not on a flat wall.....Some of the charts I photographed off center and I have hundreds of other test photos that are aligned perfectly and the test results are all the same as these 3 photos I posted.........When I use auto focusing through the viewfinder all the test chart pictures are backfocused and all my other pictures are also backfocused.

  

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#23. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Jamison, US
          

I reiterate my previous post

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#24. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

I should be recieving my third D7000 camera this Wednesday or Thursday ....I also posted a few wildlife photos in my gallery.

  

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#25. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          

Can't see any referances throughout this post to the D7000s A/F -20 to +20 auto focus fine tune facility. Would this not be a good start point for getting camera lens focusing parameters set up.
Back or forward focusing, the D7000 has the facility to sort it so why not use it.
Sorry if I'm missing something here. ??

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Sun 14-Oct-12 07:28 PM
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#26. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>Can't see any referances throughout this post to the D7000s
>A/F -20 to +20 auto focus fine tune facility. Would this not
>be a good start point for getting camera lens focusing
>parameters set up.
>Back or forward focusing, the D7000 has the facility to sort
>it so why not use it.
>Sorry if I'm missing something here. ??
I tried a -20 lens adjustment and it was not enough to correct the backfocus.

  

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#27. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          


>I tried a -20 lens adjustment and it was not enough to correct
>the backfocus.

Wow! That sounds crazy. How critical are your focusing parameters ?
You would expect a certain amount of focus leeway would be inherant through depth of field. I appreciate lens type and exposure settings f stop values would differ. but not being able to sharpen things up all the way back to -20 sounds pretty extreme. If a third camera body doesnt correct I would deffo look for the problem elsewhere.
I must admit I have had no such issues with my D7000. I thought I had focus problems during some macro shots, but even though I was in good light with a fairly fast shutter speed. It turned out to be nothing more than camera shake, catches us all out when we least expect it.
Maybe its best to rely less on the technology and opt for manual focusing when things get critical. All the modern gizmos are great but they do lean towards a point and shoot mind set. I really hope your third time lucky, I know I would be pretty frustrated.
Very best of luck to you.

  

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#28. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>
>>I tried a -20 lens adjustment and it was not enough to
>correct
>>the backfocus.
>
>Wow! That sounds crazy. How critical are your focusing
>parameters ?
>You would expect a certain amount of focus leeway would be
>inherant through depth of field. I appreciate lens type and
>exposure settings f stop values would differ. but not being
>able to sharpen things up all the way back to -20 sounds
>pretty extreme. If a third camera body doesnt correct I would
>deffo look for the problem elsewhere.
>I must admit I have had no such issues with my D7000. I
>thought I had focus problems during some macro shots, but even
>though I was in good light with a fairly fast shutter speed.
>It turned out to be nothing more than camera shake, catches us
>all out when we least expect it.
>Maybe its best to rely less on the technology and opt for
>manual focusing when things get critical. All the modern
>gizmos are great but they do lean towards a point and shoot
>mind set. I really hope your third time lucky, I know I would
>be pretty frustrated.
>Very best of luck to you.
It would be nice if I could focus every picture manually but unfortunately many of my pictures require auto focusing.

  

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Davidpeter1 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Mar 2004Fri 19-Oct-12 09:13 PM
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#31. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Cardiff, GB
          

Sorry to be blunt, but I have to say that my kids point and shoot produced sharper images than this.

It is certainly not an exemplar of "razor sharp", and if it was to be a "keeper" it would have to be a lot sharper.

David.

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Fri 19-Oct-12 10:23 PM
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#32. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

>Sorry to be blunt, but I have to say that my kids point and
>shoot produced sharper images than this.
>
>It is certainly not an exemplar of "razor sharp",
>and if it was to be a "keeper" it would have to be a
>lot sharper.

Well this is your opinion - stay with your kid point and shoot camera.
I would like to see you the same photo - under the same condition.
Maybe you are only all mouth and no action
Jacques G

  

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Davidpeter1 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Mar 2004Fri 19-Oct-12 10:37 PM
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#34. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Fri 19-Oct-12 10:45 PM by Davidpeter1

Cardiff, GB
          

not at all,

Taking a sharp picture with a long lens plus converter hand held is not necessarily easy, and maybe I could do no better,

but in a post regarding focussing problems, a shot that does not demonstrate sharpness is not a lot of help here.

I'm sure that with all that lens you will have some really sharp pics - but the woodpecker is not one of them.

Just looking at your gallery, the heron in flight would be a much better example of sharpness - look at that eye in flight!

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Fri 19-Oct-12 11:46 PM
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#35. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

Your comments " I have to say that my kids point and shoot produced sharper images than this." is quite unpleasant and shows exactly what you are looking for - confrontation.

Do not waste your time in replying - your post will go directly where it belong - in the trash.

Jacques G

  

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Davidpeter1 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Mar 2004Mon 22-Oct-12 06:04 PM
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#38. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Cardiff, GB
          

Jacques, please don't get upset about this, no confrontation meant. I thought I'd apologised in advance of being blunt, but I didn't mean to get you going and hoped my reply to your reply would indicate that no personal slight was meant. So, for avoidance of doubt sorry.
In all honesty my kids pictures are generally at least as sharp as mine - high grade Powershot's are by no means bad, and as a doctor, she knows a thing or two about sharp in lots of ways. Comparison with her pics as well as those from my D200 contributed to frustration with so many of my shots! Having said all that, we don't even try long telephoto stuff, and as I hope I indicated earlier, you've got some real good stuff in that department, so no need to worry.
All the best
dg

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#39. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

Appologies accepted.
Jacques G

  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Sat 20-Oct-12 09:44 AM
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#36. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

Everyone - it's time to calm down, please.

Thank you

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#77. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          

I was thinking the same.
Definitely not sharp.

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Sat 03-Nov-12 01:04 PM
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#82. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

>I was thinking the same.
>Definitely not sharp.

You are missing the point here - the photo of the Woodpecker was submitted to show the focus capacity of the D7000 in real life situation. In this case handheld with the 70-200 + TC 1.4. The photo was cropped at almost 60% and still the bird was in good focus and full of details.
I know I can get it better, focus wise, if I had used a tripod - miror up - and external triger but I had no choice as the bird did not wait to pose.

So what I was showing is a super photo - that would not have been possible with a focus faulty camera. This photo is still hanging on my wall and has was published in a few local publications.

Like GFINLAYSON said in his post : the D7000 is quote: It's the most advanced DX body Nikon has ever produced and is capable of producing outstanding results in the right hands.

So for all those of you that are spending most of your time and efforts to photograph charts and brick walls and looking for the perfection at 100% magnification - maybe the moderators should begin a new forum - called for the chart/brick wall shooters.

In the meantime my D7000 will keep on giving me good photos of wildlife.

BTW when I did get my D3s I had a front focus problem with the 70-200 f2.8. I did my testing - and brought both the camera and lens to Nikon repair. The VR system of the lens was replaced - it was faulty.


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cwils02 Gold Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2012Sat 03-Nov-12 02:37 PM
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#84. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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HIXSON, US
          

Jacques,

You've got that ugly thing hanging on your wall??? Just joking. I'd be proud to hang it on my wall. Pixel peeping might be fun for those who do it, but I'm all about the story, the mood, the impact.

That said, I'm pretty sure my D7000 has a focus problem. I never noticed it when shooting things with great depth of field. But lately shooting flowers, birds, bumblebees, butterflies, etc.; things where I am going for a narrow DOF, I am having real problems. I have been trying a variety of lenses to see if it was lens related, but apparently not.

As much as I hate to, I guess it's time to get Lens Align or some such. Rather spend time trying to find great images.

Charlie

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#96. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>I was thinking the same.
>Definitely not sharp.


I had a thought on this when David made his comment on sharpness, but let it pass without posting.

But now that you have brought it up again, I felt my thoughts might bring an alternate idea to the discussion.

The original posting was about accuracy of autofocus not of sharpness. And to me Jacques’ woodpecker image is a good example of an image with acceptable focus, but low in acutance. And a quick trip into PS with a modicum of Smart Sharpening cleans it up nicely. We often think that sharpness is mutually inclusive with focus, but they aren’t.

There are a number of factors that can affect acuity, focus being one of them. When I look at Jacques’ example, again it appears that the plane of focus is contained within the subject. So we then must ask what caused the low acuity. One thing already mentioned in this thread is the AA filter. Another is interpolation. Jacques mentioned it’s about a 60% crop, but I not sure if he meant that 60% was cropped away leaving 40%, or 40% was cropped away leaving 60%. Then again did he mean that he cropped out a section that would equate to 60%view in an editor such as PS much like the term “100% crop” is used? In either case, it would seem that he would have needed to down-sample the image to meet posting requirements. So perhaps the lower acuity (or sharpness if you will) is due to improper file handling (lack of resharpening after resampling) and not poor AF accuracy.

Also, you often see complaints about the D7000 with people comparing the results with their other cameras. Quite often there a mix of DX and FF 12 MP bodies. An inherent danger when comparing different resolution bodies is a failure to remain cognizant of what you’re looking at with 100% view. Not knowing what Jackques meant by his example, I’ll use an example that I used about a year ago when someone asked what I thought about my AF accuracy after the repair compared to prior to repair (it was repaired for lubricant spray issue not AF, but the teardown necessitated a recalibration of the AF).

For reference this is the full DX frame capture.

Hand held at 300mm with VR on, f/5.6, 1/200th and ISO160.





And this is a 100% crop of the bird.



Now those two images were processed from the NEF.

It appears to me that the AF was fairly accurate, and even the 100% crop looks rather good.

Now, this is a 100% crop of the NEF without processing (no levels or curves adjustments and no sharpening other than capture sharpening in LR3).




The focus was the same, the difference is the acutance. The unprocessed shot does not restore the loss of acutance from the AA filter. Also, at 100% view on the average monitor, you are seeing the effects of diffraction as well. And perhaps that is where a number of people go astray, especially when comparing their new higher resolution bodies to their older lower resolution bodies.

For example my monitor displays about 93 PPI. A D7000 full resolution image displayed at 100% would be about a 57x enlargement. A D90 image would be about 49x and a D700 would be about 32x enlargement. In my example the diffraction spot size at f/5.6 is about 7 microns. My viewing distance is about 30 inches or about 1.6x the viewing distance of an 8x10 in which the tolerable CoC is often calculated. With the D7000 at 57x enlargement the diffraction spot size in my example would become about .4mm; so it would appear relatively soft. With the D90 at 49x enlargement, the diffraction spot size becomes around .34mm and at the viewing distance would be at the edge of appearing relatively sharp. With the D700 and its 32x enlargement, the spot size becomes around .224mm and is well within the acceptably sharp range for the CoC.

So when we analyze real world images, a lack of sharpness doesn’t necessarily mean a lack of focus accuracy. But a lack of accurate focus will cause a lack of sharpness.

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#97. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

Pete,

Very interesting information and examples. It should give pause to the D7000 focus naysayers if they really want to be unbiased. It also demonstrates how the modern high resolution DSLRs require a lot more patience in shooting disciplines.

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grillij Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Aug 2008Mon 05-Nov-12 07:20 PM
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#98. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Piedmont,Qc, CA
          

Thank you for your detailed explanations - You did open my eyes to a subject that is very interesting and to the point.
To answer a few of you questions I am attaching the original photo to show you the crop.
1:
"Jacques mentioned it’s about a 60% crop, but I not sure if he meant that 60% was cropped away leaving 40%, or 40% was cropped away leaving 60%. " I cropped to leave 60% away.
2. "Not knowing what Jackques meant by his example" as you recall the original posting was about the D7000 suffering from back focussing. As I had the experience of having a similar problem, Front-focussing - with the D3s and 70-200 f2.8 and not convinced that the D7000 was the cause- I published a heavy cropped photo showing that if the D7000 was in fact back focussing that photo would not have been as good. The photo of the yellow bird is in fact more sharp at the front although the focus was on the bird. This was resolved by Nikon and the fault was on the Lens - VR was replaced.

Considering that since the beginning of this discussion - many asked the original poster, and others, to show actual photo with proof of the back-focussing problem - no one did - I was trying to help in submitting my example - I was wrong in doing so and you saw what I got for comments.

I still think that the D7000 is focussing properly as I have not seen any actual photos that is showing otherwise.
This is my original photo of the woodpecker


This is my cropped photo - showing the front-focussing problem

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Mon 05-Nov-12 08:10 PM
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#99. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Jacques,

The photo above of the woodpecker does appear to have better clarity without the cropping and is a nice photo. I have always noticed reduced quality in my posted pictures (versus printed) after reduced resolution, cropping, re-sampling, conversion to jpeg (if original is other format), etc.

Don't worry about the negative comments about your picture. Occasionally it can be a little rough and you need thick skin to survive at Nikonians during a heated debate.

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Mon 05-Nov-12 08:49 PM
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#101. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>I still think that the D7000 is focussing properly as I have
>not seen any actual photos that is showing otherwise.

Jacques,

Thanks for posting the full image. It confirms what crossed my mind: the focus is fine. However, unless I'm mistaken, the feeding post moves on the two metal hooks, and I believe that it moves very freely. I think any lack of sharpness is subject motion, honestly.

I do think it's a great pic. Again, thanks for posting.

  

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Mon 15-Oct-12 09:39 AM
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#29. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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D7000, Sigma 24-70EX, f2.8, 100% crop.

Focus point is the logo on the front of the cartrdige. DOF is pretty small, but you can see the diamond stylus on the end of the cantilever.

  

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mudman2 Silver Member Nikonian since 14th May 2009Mon 15-Oct-12 11:54 AM
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#30. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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You need to dust

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NDGraham Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Jan 2007Mon 22-Oct-12 04:01 AM
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#37. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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LOL! That was funny, Mudman...
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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Sun 28-Oct-12 08:49 PM
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#40. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Hello again .... I received my 3rd new D7000 camera and have tested it with some focus test charts.......This camera is back focusing the same way as the other 2 previous cameras.......I found many other photographers in other forums who have the same exact back focus problems....I am not sure why Nikon is having such a difficult time adjusting these D7000 cameras especially since the majority of D90 , D300 , D300S , D700 cameras do not have this many back focus issues......I am using a -20 lens focus adjustment on the camera to help correct the back focus on my Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens.....This -20 adjustment brings the lens close to the focus point however it is still a little off......I probably need around a -27 to a -30 to get it perfect ....There is one advantage to this D7000 camera being out of alignment and that is I can now auto focus my Sigma 400mm lens which has a severe front focus problem and I was using manual focus only with the D90 , D300 and D700........There are many things I like about the D7000 and I am getting tired of sending cameras back and forth to the store so I have decided to keep this camera even though it is not perfect....I will use if for a while and see if any other problems develop and I can always send it to Nikon for repair .....I also found one dead pixel which shows up on the pictures and looks like a white colored cross...The dead pixel can only be seen when the photos are highly magnified.. I know many other cameras have this problem and I am not too concerned with this since I can clone it out.

  

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#41. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

I'm sorry to hear about your continued problem.

Whatever you may have read elsewhere, the D7000 in general hasn't suffered from more focusing problems than other cameras. That's not to say there aren't any faulty cameras out there, but getting three in a row is either extremely unfortunate or suggests the source of the problem lies elsewhere.

In order to increase your own satisfaction level I would suggest you look carefully at your testing methodology. If you could set up a test with a focus target parallel to the camera's sensor plane it would eliminate one big variable.

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Mon 29-Oct-12 10:05 AM
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#42. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Wow. Sorry to read that you're still experiencing this issue.

Thankfully, both my D7000 bodies were good to go out of the box.

  

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#43. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

The benefit in keeping it, and taking it to the nearest Nikon warranty station, the real problem will be easily sorted out much quicker than hoping another exchange results in correcting the same exact problem. Unless someone is pulling a bad joke on you or the test method is inaccurate, the extremely long odds of getting 3 defective units all with the exact same defect just puts this adventure into the same realm of likelihood as winning the lottery. A tech would be able to adjust the camera in an hour if it needs it.
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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Tue 30-Oct-12 02:24 PM
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#44. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Tue 30-Oct-12 02:31 PM by gfinlayson

Maidenhead, GB
          

I've had a look at the focus test charts posted. All are significantly cropped, and in none of them is the chart aligned properly with the camera. There's clear distortion of perspective - were everything aligned properly, the lines would taper evenly towards the horizon. The test chart also doesn't fill the frame, which it should.

I presume you're using the centre cross type sensor? It is quite large and may be picking up more than the central focus point.

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Tue 30-Oct-12 03:09 PM
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#45. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>I've had a look at the focus test charts posted. All are
>significantly cropped, and in none of them is the chart
>aligned properly with the camera. There's clear distortion of
>perspective - were everything aligned properly, the lines
>would taper evenly towards the horizon. The test chart also
>doesn't fill the frame, which it should.
>
>I presume you're using the centre cross type sensor? It is
>quite large and may be picking up more than the central focus
>point.

These chart pictures are not cropped .....I have hundreds of photos at different distances and angles with all 3 D7000 cameras and it makes no difference with the results...... Using live view is always sharp and through the viewfinder the focus point is always soft.....I can use the camera with a -20 focus adjustment with the Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens even though the focus is still a little off however if I turn off the focus adjustment the pictures are way to soft.

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Tue 30-Oct-12 03:20 PM
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#46. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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I also noticed something else regarding the alignment of the sensors ........The center focus point using Live View does not match the center focus point through the viewfinder when looking at the center of a test chart flat on a wall.....I am not sure if this is normal but is seems both center focus points should be perfectly aligned.

  

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elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Tue 30-Oct-12 04:32 PM
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#48. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>I also noticed something else regarding the alignment of the
>sensors ........The center focus point using Live View does
>not match the center focus point through the viewfinder

There essentially is no focus point with live view as with viewfinder AF.

With the viewfinder there is a separate focus sensor for the phase detection AF. Being that the light from the lens is deflected by a mirror through a beam splitter onto a sensor, there is multiple failure points that need to be aligned. With live view the contrast of the image from the actual sensor is analyzed. As such live view will always be more accurate than viewfinder AF. And depending on the person, manual focus might be better than live view AF.

Phase Detection AF is tolerably accurate but rather fast. Live View is a bit more accurate, but considerably slower than Phase Detection. A good article define the issues with AF can be found here at LensRentals. You might notice that in their testing there really wasn't a huge difference between LV and ViewFinder AF.

An issue I see with the focus chart tests you did, besides alignment, is that they seem to not be illuminated very well. Phase Detection AF is dependent upon good light. The better the illumination the faster and more accurate it will be I believe.

If you are going to set a up test, you should do your best to eliminate as many variables as possible. About a year and a half ago I was testing my D7000 for focus. I posted this test image in a thread I started. It's a 100% crop I believe.



As you can see by the texture of the paper, the focus was just about dead on using a Nikkor 17-55 f/2.8 wide open at 55mm.

I determined that out of my 6 lenses, only 2 needed AF Fine Tuning to get acceptable focus.

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Tue 30-Oct-12 03:29 PM
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#47. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Tue 30-Oct-12 04:03 PM by gfinlayson

Maidenhead, GB
          

Ok, so they're not crops.

Here's my test results with the 80-200 AF-S @ f/2.8 on a D7000. The image is full-frame, but has been resized to 1600px on the long edge during export from Lightroom.

Note how the chart is aligned almost exactly with the frame, and the chart fills the frame? The angle has also been measured to as close to 45º as I could manage.



Before returning another camera, try to replicate these test conditions and see what the results look like.

Also, have you conducted tests with any other lenses?

In answer to your question about AF points, the AF methods are different between live view and when using the viewfinder.

With the viewfinder, phase detection AF is used. With Live View, contrast detection is used via the sensor as the mirror is up and the AF module can't see through the lens, so the same focus points can't be used.

You can see from the above chart that this lens very slightly backfocuses. With an adjustment of -3, here it is again:



This time it's pretty much spot on.

  

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#89. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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HIXSON, US
          

Graeme,

Would you mind giving me a link to the focus chart you used?

Thanks!

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Mon 05-Nov-12 05:49 AM
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#91. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Mon 05-Nov-12 05:51 AM by gfinlayson

Maidenhead, GB
          

>Graeme,
>
>Would you mind giving me a link to the focus chart you used?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Charlie

Hi Charlie,

There's a download link to it from here:

www.focustestchart.com/chart.html

Graeme

  

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#92. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Thanks Graeme!

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benmlee Registered since 03rd Jul 2012Mon 05-Nov-12 03:42 AM
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#90. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>
>These chart pictures are not cropped .....I have hundreds of
>photos at different distances and angles with all 3 D7000
>cameras and it makes no difference with the results......
>Using live view is always sharp and through the viewfinder the
>focus point is always soft.....I can use the camera with a
>-20 focus adjustment with the Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 AF-S lens
>even though the focus is still a little off however if I turn
>off the focus adjustment the pictures are way to soft.

In the AF fine tune menu, there is both a saved value and a default value. Saved value is for individual lens, default is the global value for all lens.

If your saved value for individual lens is maxed out at -20, then set the global default value also to -20. Then you have a total of -40. Looking at your chart, you are not that far off. -20 should have been able to fix it.

When I first got the camera, I spent an afternoon thinking it was not focusing properly. Maxed out all the values, got the chart to read right, but pictures were still all off. Turned out I was using the wrong technique. Reset everything back to zero, use the right technique, and it was all fine.
I was not using spot focus was the main problem. Good lighting is also important.

After using Morie pattern, 45degree and Nikon, I end up always use the Nikon method http://benmlee.com/Digital_Camera.htm to set focus. Is the easiest and when everything are taken into consideration, is also the most accurate. The targets are all perpendicular to the camera, so there is much less chance for error.



  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Mon 05-Nov-12 08:09 AM
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#93. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

>In the AF fine tune menu, there is both a saved value and a
>default value. Saved value is for individual lens, default is
>the global value for all lens.
>
>If your saved value for individual lens is maxed out at -20,
>then set the global default value also to -20. Then you have a
>total of -40.

I have seen that claim made elsewhere, but I believe it to be incorrect. As far as I know, the "default" value is only applied when using a lens that does not have its own fine tune value saved.

Brian
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cwils02 Gold Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2012Mon 05-Nov-12 02:21 PM
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#94. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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HIXSON, US
          

Brian,

Hmmm... Recently, I read an instructional piece on fine tuning. It basically said the same thing that Ben asserts. It was saying that if you had three lenses, at -5, -8, & -14; you could set the default at -5, and then you wouldn't need a setting for the -5 lens, and only a correction of -3, & -9 for the -8 & -14 lenses respectively. I was convinced.

After your post I looked at a couple D7000 books. In my opinion, Digital Darrell is a little wishy washy (or unclear) on the issue. In his opinion, the only reason to use this feature is when your camera or lens is out of warranty. If in warranty, it should be sent to Nikon to be fixed.

David Busch said rather clearly that the default is only for lenses not specifically set in one of the 12 CPU lens settings. I believe this is your view as well.

I would love for the OP to set the default at -20, and then setup his lens for -7. Or he could do it it vice versa, and see what the results are. Personally, I would really like to know before I go through all this falderol.

Thanks for weighing in on this!

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Mon 05-Nov-12 08:26 PM
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#100. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>Brian,
>
>Hmmm... Recently, I read an instructional piece on fine
>tuning. It basically said the same thing that Ben asserts.
>It was saying that if you had three lenses, at -5, -8, &
>-14; you could set the default at -5, and then you wouldn't
>need a setting for the -5 lens, and only a correction of -3,
>& -9 for the -8 & -14 lenses respectively. I was
>convinced.
>
>After your post I looked at a couple D7000 books. In my
>opinion, Digital Darrell is a little wishy washy (or unclear)
>on the issue. In his opinion, the only reason to use this
>feature is when your camera or lens is out of warranty. If in
>warranty, it should be sent to Nikon to be fixed.
>
>David Busch said rather clearly that the default is only for
>lenses not specifically set in one of the 12 CPU lens
>settings. I believe this is your view as well.
>
>I would love for the OP to set the default at -20, and then
>setup his lens for -7. Or he could do it it vice versa, and
>see what the results are. Personally, I would really like to
>know before I go through all this falderol.
>
>Thanks for weighing in on this!
>
>Charlie


Charlie,

My Sigma lens requires a correction of -18 IIRC to attain sharp focus. Would you like to me to set -18 as a default value, and then dial in -18 (or whatever) for the Sigma, and let you know the results?

  

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#103. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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HIXSON, US
          

>
>My Sigma lens requires a correction of -18 IIRC to attain
>sharp focus. Would you like to me to set -18 as a default
>value, and then dial in -18 (or whatever) for the Sigma, and
>let you know the results?
>

Bob, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, that would be great. It might be more helpful for the OP to try it since he is the one with the problem. Although, that really isn't the OP's solution, just a get around.

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#102. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>>In the AF fine tune menu, there is both a saved value and
>a
>>default value. Saved value is for individual lens, default
>is
>>the global value for all lens.
>>
>>If your saved value for individual lens is maxed out at
>-20,
>>then set the global default value also to -20. Then you
>have a
>>total of -40.
>
>I have seen that claim made elsewhere, but I believe it to be
>incorrect. As far as I know, the "default" value is
>only applied when using a lens that does not have its own fine
>tune value saved.

I am 99% sure you can get to -40. Was just playing around with it last night. Changed one, it affected focus, then changed the other, and it affected focus again. Didn't take any pictures and compared side by side, but just be seat of the pants testing, that was how it worked.

  

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#49. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Maidenhead, GB
          

>
>
>D7000, Sigma 24-70EX, f2.8, 100% crop.
>
>Focus point is the logo on the front of the cartrdige. DOF is
>pretty small, but you can see the diamond stylus on the end of
>the cantilever.

That's a pretty serious cartridge there!

  

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#50. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Wed 31-Oct-12 08:23 AM by kingsgraphic

GB
          

You know, I read this thread and thought "there's no way you can get sent three different bodies and get the same fault in all three". However, since then I've scouted around on the internet, and found multiple examples of users citing the same problem. One guy is on his sixth body!

Conclusion: there is a problem out there, but most of us don't have it. Maybe there was a bad batch; maybe the calibration equipment in Nikon Q&A was 'off' - (remember the Hubble Telescope and the focus problem due to incorrect calibration gear in the lab?) If NASA can get it wrong for sure Nikon can.

Addendum: Since reading the thread I've printed the chart off myself and, although being always happy with the images from my D7000, find that according to the focus chart, I have an offset of -13. My feeling is that most D7000's, and probably all DSLR's AF systems, have this offset from new. Why? Well to allow for manufacturing tolerances. If the AF calibration was attempting to get it spot-on 'zero' every time, then some cameras would have front-focussing all the time. In a portrait situation this would mean that no part of the image was in focus. Offsetting backwards means that part of the image is always in focus. Why so many seem to be outside the range of offset is probably down to sloppy calibration or equipment fault. I'm guessing that for most sitations the effect is lost in the DoF.

Something else I noticed. In 2011 the Nikon Thailand factory was flooded-out. In 2012 it was re-equipped with new, 'faster', equipment. My camera is a 2011-built model. From what I've seen those with the excessive offset problem are 2012 models. A coincidence?

  

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km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009Wed 31-Oct-12 01:04 PM
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#53. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

Any anonymous poster claiming 6 defective cameras in a row is either a troll or not knowing how to evaluate their camera's focusing. Depending on the forum, troll is more likely.

A new buyer really should go to a local pro oriented store and deal with them instead of on-line. An experienced store owner would be able to short circuit many of the reported problems. As it is, people upgrading have only forums for advice but there is no hands on access to the testing setup or usage for effective diagnosis. Nikon learned from the problem with so many perfectly good cameras returned when the D7000 was released so they supplied small locally owned stores as a higher priority than mega-on-line stores when introducing the D800. Yes, still, most of the returned D800's, a scan of the forums reveals, were from sight-unseen purchases from on-line. Those who had hands-on experience with it and a knowledgeable dealer seemed much less likely to have a problem.
The odds of having the exact same problem with a random sampling of cameras is pretty low so other causes make more sense to investigate. There is still no indication that tests in this thread were done in a a way to determine if there is a problem or not. It is hard to come up with an appropriate diagnosis without some trustworthy data. A diagnosis, to be correct, has to account for all evidence, if any of it does not fit, the diagnosis is wrong. All we know now is that a self diagnosis of 3 cameras being defective was arrived at for reasons we do not know, with evidence we do not know. If all three cameras perform so close together, it is more logical that they are all performing correctly since everything has to be within tolerance to get such consistent reproducible results from random sampled units. If one has a defect, it would be expected that results would not be consistent with the others.
Too much time has been wasted on speculation and assumptions in this case since none of us are there to see the testing methods.
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#54. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          

Stan,
have you tried the focus chart on your camera? My guess is that if you do it will show a degree of back-focus. probably not enough for you to have noticed in your photos', the same as I didn't notice on mine, but it's there nonetheless. Why don't we assume that anyone who feels the need to return his equipment as faulty, sees sufficient out-of-focus (more than is able to be adjusted out in the AF Tune) and in more than one body, is given the element of doubt. *

I think my suggestion that since March 2012 the Thailand factory has been re-equiped and may be producing some cameras (the D7000 if not others) that have an excessive AF offset due to mis-calibration for some reason, is a reasonable one.

* In Internet slang, a troll is "someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community".

  

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#55. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

People like Stan and I (and the other Mods here) have been dealing with this type of situation for a number of years now. Whenever a new camera is released, there is a consistent pattern of some owners complaining about a perceived problem that turns out (after some careful guidance from our members) to have been caused by something other than a faulty camera. That doesn't mean we automatically assume the user is at fault - we try to look for solid evidence before making a recommendation one way or the other.

Fortunately, we tend to get fewer "trolls" here than at some sites - and I certainly don't put this thread in that category - but until we see the results of some more rigorous testing, it's difficult to believe that three randomly-obtained cameras suffer from exactly the same mis-adjustment, especially when other recent owners don't see anything wrong.

I would also need a lot more evidence before agreeing with your guess that newer examples of the D7000 are all leaving the factory with a problem - though as the D800 "left AF point" situation has shown, anything is possible

Brian
Welsh Nikonian

  

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Thu 01-Nov-12 03:11 PM
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#58. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>People like Stan and I (and the other Mods here) have been
>dealing with this type of situation for a number of years now.
> Whenever a new camera is released, there is a consistent
>pattern of some owners complaining about a perceived problem
>that turns out (after some careful guidance from our members)
>to have been caused by something other than a faulty camera.
>That doesn't mean we automatically assume the user is at fault
>- we try to look for solid evidence before making a
>recommendation one way or the other.
>
>Fortunately, we tend to get fewer "trolls" here than
>at some sites - and I certainly don't put this thread in that
>category - but until we see the results of some more rigorous
>testing, it's difficult to believe that three
>randomly-obtained cameras suffer from exactly the same
>mis-adjustment, especially when other recent owners don't see
>anything wrong.
>
>I would also need a lot more evidence before agreeing with
>your guess that newer examples of the D7000 are all leaving
>the factory with a problem - though as the D800 "left AF
>point" situation has shown, anything is possible


I know all 3 of the D7000 I have tried are backfocusing.....Focusing a picture with Live View is always sharper than using the viewfinder..... I have focused on charts and have taken plenty of pictures outside and I always get the same results...... Both focus systems should produce equally sharp photos and if the camera does not there is a problem..........I believe there are many more D7000 cameras that have this problem and the reason other people are not complaining is because most of them have not tested their cameras with a chart or they have not compared the sharpness of both focus systems.

  

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#59. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 58


Paignton, GB
          

A couple of points...

Firstly, it's not relevant to diagnosing your camera's problem how many other D7000's may or may not have focus problems. As suggested earlier in the thread, let's try to stick to the point and not get sidetracked into making doubtful assumptions.

Secondly, unless you are willing to take on board some of the advice and ideas offered by members, and provide some more robust evidence, none of us is in a position to agree or disagree with your findings - nor can we help you get to the bottom of what is going on.

It's up to you...

Brian
Welsh Nikonian

  

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Thu 01-Nov-12 06:16 PM
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#61. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Maidenhead, GB
          

Thanks Brian. Wise words indeed.

If I can raise a couple of further points, having looked at the detailed EXIF data for the focus tests?

They're shot at f/8, when the advice of the designer of the focus test is to shoot wide open. Why?

They're not shot with the chart completely filling the frame, also against the advice of the designer. Why?

They're shot with a range of shutter speeds down from 1/100 to 1/25 which suggests very variable lighting (2 stops).

Also 1/25???? What about the effects of mirror slap? I don't go to these sorts of shutter speeds without using MUP and a cable release.

A few microns of movement and you're starting to blur pixels....

I'm not wishing to be argumentative or confrontational, but how can the results be considered valid when the experimental method is fundamentally flawed?

  

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#69. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>Thanks Brian. Wise words indeed.
>
>If I can raise a couple of further points, having looked at
>the detailed EXIF data for the focus tests?
>
>They're shot at f/8, when the advice of the designer of the
>focus test is to shoot wide open. Why?
>
>They're not shot with the chart completely filling the frame,
>also against the advice of the designer. Why?
>
>They're shot with a range of shutter speeds down from 1/100 to
>1/25 which suggests very variable lighting (2 stops).
>
>Also 1/25???? What about the effects of mirror slap? I don't
>go to these sorts of shutter speeds without using MUP and a
>cable release.
>
>A few microns of movement and you're starting to blur
>pixels....
>
>I'm not wishing to be argumentative or confrontational, but
>how can the results be considered valid when the experimental
>method is fundamentally flawed?
>


Hello....I used every aperture setting when I shot these charts and the results are all the same......I posted these shots at F8 because the depth of field is greater in front and behind the focus point than at F 2.8 ......If I cannot get a sharp picture at F8 then all the other aperture settings will be just as bad if not worse.......The slow shutter speeds make no difference with the test results and you can clearly see where the focus is on my pictures which have no motion blur from mirror slap......I have taken my camera outside on a tripod and used shutter speeds between 5000 and 8000 and taken pictures of car license plates and the Live View focus is always sharper than through the viewfinder....I also magnified the photos and you can really tell the difference in the sharpness when this is done.

  

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Thu 01-Nov-12 06:09 PM
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#60. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 58
Thu 01-Nov-12 06:12 PM by J_Harris

US
          


>...I believe there are many more D7000 cameras
>that have this problem and the reason other people are not
>complaining is because most of them have not tested their
>cameras with a chart or they have not compared the sharpness
>of both focus systems.


I'm not trying to be a smart*** or push the D7000 focus debate, but it may be time to look at alternatives if after three D7000s you are not happy. You are correct, I have never used a "test chart" and have no interest in doing so in the future.

< Philosophical rant on >

Computers and analytical tools can be very useful, but they can also cause undue frustration to photographers. I have noticed two types of photographers; analytical and practical. The analytical is pleasured by using a computer with 100% enlargements, focus test charts, etc. to achieve the extreme capabilities from their camera. The practical are happily gratified by the artistic results created from the photographs as seen by the human eyes. Some can even happily straddle both worlds .

If the analytical style of photography is taken to extremes it frustrates and destroys what is supposed to be a relaxing and pleasurable job or hobby. Look at a photograph for what it shows the human eye, not the pixels it shows from a computer when enlarged 100%, or what focus test charts display but is never seen by the human eye in the photograph.

I'm sure if there was a poll taken the analytical photographers would have more ulcers than the practical photographers.

< Philosophical rant off >

Excuse me while I jump into my flame retardant suit.

Jerry

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Thu 01-Nov-12 06:35 PM
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#62. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 60


Maidenhead, GB
          

I may get flamed for linking to KR's website, but check out "Equipment Measurebator: Bottom Level 1"


www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm

  

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#78. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 62


HIXSON, US
          

>I may get flamed for linking to KR's website, but check out
>"Equipment Measurebator: Bottom Level 1"
>
>
>www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm

Not sure how this link is helpful to this discussion. Every time I go there, I just get irritated.

harlie

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Sat 03-Nov-12 08:09 AM
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#79. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Sat 03-Nov-12 01:47 PM by gfinlayson

Maidenhead, GB
          

Sorry Charlie,

That was probably a bit facetious. I appreciate the fact the OP seems to have a problem, which we've all tried to help with.

I just think that in general there seems to be a growing trend in pixel peeping at 100% enlargement and obsessive measurement of camera and lens performance to find fault in equipment that would otherwise never be apparent in real world photographic situations.

It perpetuates myth and rumour and claims of manufacturer 'conspiracy' and dissuades would-be purchases from buying a particular model.


I've no doubt there have been genuine issues with focusing which Nikon is usually happy to resolve by carrying out the necessary calibration adjustments, but they've been so overhyped and the flames have been fanned by the 'me too' claims to the point where the D7000 is (if the online community is to be believed) almost universally considered to be a lemon.

And a lemon it is not. It's the most advanced DX body Nikon has ever produced and is capable of producing outstanding results in the right hands.

As for KR, he writes a lot of stuff which he freely admits is based on his own opinion. Some of it is factually helpful, some of it is baloney. But love him or hate him, he's probably going to be around for a while......



  

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Sat 03-Nov-12 11:01 AM
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#80. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 79


US
          

>
>That was probably a bit facetious. I appreciate the fact the
>OP seems to have a problem, which we've all tried to help
>with.
>

That's what baffles me. I see very knowledgeable people making suggestions for the OP, and the OP just ignores this advice.

Do you think the pic of the Helikon I posted is sharp?

I do; maybe I'm wrong - that's fine, and please don't worry about hurting my feelings by telling me it's not sharp. I know the lighting sucks, that's why I originally posted the image in a thread, I was looking for critiques about lighting.

But there's a story behind the pic.

After buying my D7000 bodies, and completing a paid gig, using (gasp) old kit lenses, I decided it was time to start upgrading glass. I purchased the Sigma 24-70EX, and immediately had backfocus issues, I thought. I posted a couple sample pics, and got advice, which I took to heart, and the advice really did help my technique.

However, the lens still backfocused, on both bodies. Another moderator, Brian Wong, picked up on the issue, and walked me through about a week's worth of testing using real world objects. I learned a ton. Brian freely shared his knowledge with me, and I came out of that week a better photographer.

The pic of the Helikon was taken as the final test in the series. I ended up dialing in a lot of adjustment, but the Sigma is now, to my eye, quite satisfactory. It seems to focus on what the AF system says is being acquired. Again - to my eye.


So, anyhow: I understand the frustration with purchasing an item that doesn't seem to perform as well as it should.

I don't understand why anybody would not welcome the chance to learn from experienced photographers. Perhaps, at the end of the day, the body will still be unsatisfactory; well, then, that's something Nikon can, and will, fix. But the opportunity to learn and grow will not have been lost.

.02

  

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gfinlayson Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Jan 2011Sat 03-Nov-12 06:59 PM
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#85. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 80


Maidenhead, GB
          

>>
>>That was probably a bit facetious. I appreciate the fact
>the
>>OP seems to have a problem, which we've all tried to help
>>with.
>>
>
>That's what baffles me. I see very knowledgeable people
>making suggestions for the OP, and the OP just ignores this
>advice.
>
>Do you think the pic of the Helikon I posted is sharp?
>
>I do; maybe I'm wrong - that's fine, and please don't worry
>about hurting my feelings by telling me it's not sharp. I
>know the lighting sucks, that's why I originally posted the
>image in a thread, I was looking for critiques about
>lighting.
>
>But there's a story behind the pic.
>
>After buying my D7000 bodies, and completing a paid gig, using
>(gasp) old kit lenses, I decided it was time to start
>upgrading glass. I purchased the Sigma 24-70EX, and
>immediately had backfocus issues, I thought. I posted a
>couple sample pics, and got advice, which I took to heart, and
>the advice really did help my technique.
>
>However, the lens still backfocused, on both bodies. Another
>moderator, Brian Wong, picked up on the issue, and walked me
>through about a week's worth of testing using real world
>objects. I learned a ton. Brian freely shared his knowledge
>with me, and I came out of that week a better photographer.
>
>The pic of the Helikon was taken as the final test in the
>series. I ended up dialing in a lot of adjustment, but the
>Sigma is now, to my eye, quite satisfactory. It seems to
>focus on what the AF system says is being acquired. Again -
>to my eye.
>
>
>So, anyhow: I understand the frustration with purchasing an
>item that doesn't seem to perform as well as it should.
>
>I don't understand why anybody would not welcome the chance to
>learn from experienced photographers. Perhaps, at the end of
>the day, the body will still be unsatisfactory; well, then,
>that's something Nikon can, and will, fix. But the
>opportunity to learn and grow will not have been lost.
>
>.02
>
>

Bob,

I really like your photo. It's tack sharp, the bokeh is lovely, and it says a lot about your love of music and vinyl. Regardless of the focus issues you had with your 24-70, it tells a story about you.

Graeme

  

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Sat 03-Nov-12 11:29 AM
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#81. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 78


US
          


>>I may get flamed for linking to KR's website, but check
>>out "Equipment Measurebator: Bottom Level 1"
>>
>>www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm


>Not sure how this link is helpful to this discussion. Every
>time I go there, I just get irritated
.
>
>(C)harlie


Then why did you go there???

It's a joke... just trying to add a little humor.

Jerry

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#70. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 60


US
          

>
>>...I believe there are many more D7000 cameras
>>that have this problem and the reason other people are
>not
>>complaining is because most of them have not tested their
>>cameras with a chart or they have not compared the
>sharpness
>>of both focus systems.
>
>
>I'm not trying to be a smart*** or push the D7000 focus
>debate, but it may be time to look at alternatives if after
>three D7000s you are not happy. You are correct, I have never
>used a "test chart" and have no interest in doing so
>in the future.
>
>< Philosophical rant on >
>
>Computers and analytical tools can be very useful, but they
>can also cause undue frustration to photographers. I have
>noticed two types of photographers; analytical and
>practical. The analytical is pleasured by using a
>computer with 100% enlargements, focus test charts, etc. to
>achieve the extreme capabilities from their camera. The
>practical are happily gratified by the artistic results
>created from the photographs as seen by the human eyes. Some
>can even happily straddle both worlds .
>
>If the analytical style of photography is taken to extremes it
>frustrates and destroys what is supposed to be a relaxing and
>pleasurable job or hobby. Look at a photograph for what it
>shows the human eye, not the pixels it shows from a computer
>when enlarged 100%, or what focus test charts display but is
>never seen by the human eye in the photograph.
>
>I'm sure if there was a poll taken the analytical
>photographers would have more ulcers than the practical
>photographers.
>
>< Philosophical rant off >
>
>Excuse me while I jump into my flame retardant suit.
>
>Jerry
>
>


I am keeping this 3rd D7000 camera....I will eventually send it in to Nikon for repair.

  

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RLDubbya Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Tue 30-Oct-12 08:57 PM
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#51. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 49


US
          

>That's a pretty serious cartridge there!

Thanks. It's a treat, mounted in the SME Series V arm, on a Michell Orbe SE deck. Female vocals, especially, have an eerie presence and depth. Makes me wonder what some of the higher end work from Mr. Carr can do, but down that path lies madness, I fear.

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#52. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 51


Maidenhead, GB
          

>>That's a pretty serious cartridge there!
>
>Thanks. It's a treat, mounted in the SME Series V arm, on a
>Michell Orbe SE deck. Female vocals, especially, have an
>eerie presence and depth. Makes me wonder what some of the
>higher end work from Mr. Carr can do, but down that path lies
>madness, I fear.
>
>

Bankruptcy too.....

  

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#88. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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HN
          

On the focussing problem: Could it be you have not the correct diopter adjustment to your eyesight and that is why it focuss correctly on live view??

  

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#95. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 88


HIXSON, US
          

>On the focussing problem: Could it be you have not the
>correct diopter adjustment to your eyesight and that is why it
>focuss correctly on live view??

If you focus using AF or Live View, it won't matter what the diopter setting is. If you are doing manual focus, I guess it could be a factor, but I wouldn't trust the viewfinder for a narrow DOF. I would use Liveview (if I could) which wouldn't depend on the diopter adjustment.

As others have pointed out Liveview uses a different focus method.

Charlie

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AlexRitchie Registered since 20th Apr 2012Fri 02-Nov-12 07:26 PM
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#76. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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GB
          

I am sorry but you are being patronizing.
I have had the same problem:
Focusing on an eye with my subject directly in front of me and the eye isn't sharp but an inch to the left or right is. When I use a D300 the results are superb, the D7000 is very disappointing. It is going back on Monday.
Please note that I am not a novice and understand the new D7000 and the changes to the auto focus system.

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#56. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Thu 01-Nov-12 05:00 PM by Rassie

Milton, CA
          

I've been following this thread with interest from the beginning, and I think I'm now in a position to air my opinion fwiw.

I used to shoot with a D90 until recently. I have the Nikkor DX 18-200 mm VR11 and Sigma 150-500 mm lenses. Both these lenses performed satisfactorily on my D90. I was recently asked to do a wedding for a friend's daughter so I rented a D7000 with Nikkor 24-70 mm and Nikkor 70-200 mm lenses. I put the 70-200 lens on my D90 and gave it to my son to shoot some wedding pics. I shot most of the wedding with the 24-70 lens on the D7000. Comparing the pictures afterwards, it was clear that the D90/70-200 mm combination pictures were significantly sharper that the D7000/24-70 mm combination. At the time I attributed it to the fact that there was no VR on the 24-70 lens and that I perhaps didn't hold the camera still enough. The pictures could be sharpened up well enough in post, but I expected better sharpness out of the camera. Both these lenses are renowned for their sharpness.

I subsequently bought a new D7000 about a month ago and started using my own lenses on it. I immediately noticed my pictures were softer than I used to get with the same lenses on the D90. Then I saw the stories on back-focusing on the D7000 in Nikonians. I printed a focus chart and started experimenting with both lenses. Shooting both perpendicular to the chart and at a 45 deg. angle while adjusting the autofocus fine tuning, I could just not get the camera to provide sharply focused pictures. I also noticed that live view focus was perfect. Focusing on the same subject, the live view focus outperformed the autofocus in sharpness every time.

I then took the camera and 18-200 mm lens to Nikon (there's a Nikon repair facility not far from my home). They kept the camera/lens combination for about two weeks, and then gave them back. Nikon commented that they adjusted the autofocus on the camera and they also replaced the swm motor in the lens, both under warranty.

I went back to the focus chart again, expecting the camera/lens combination to now perform better but to my disappointment the results were still not good enough. So I went through the same excercise again, fiddling with autofocus fine tuning with both lenses. The end result is I now have two lenses that focus well enough. The 18-200 mm lens is set to default to -17 in the autofocus fine tuning and the 150-500 is set to -15. Bottom line, if Nikon didn't make the adjustments they did, neither of my lenses would provide good enough autofocus even at -20.

Speaking for myself, my brand new D700 straight from the factory was faulty to the point where the autofocus fine tuning could not compensate. I can't speak for others who complain about back focus on new D7000 cameras, but mine was clearly faulty. And I am very disappointed. I expected Nikon's repair facility to get the autofocus better than what they achieved. I think it's unacceptable that I should still have to fine tune the autofocus after they supposedly repaired it, especially on the 18-200 mm lens.

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photoman2112 Registered since 08th Oct 2012Thu 01-Nov-12 03:02 PM
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#57. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 56


US
          

>I've been following this thread with interest from the
>beginning, and I think I'm now in a position to air my opinion
>fwiw.
>
>I used to shoot with a D90 until recently. I have the Nikkor
>DX 18-200 mm VR11 and Sigma 150-500 mm lenses. Both these
>lenses performed satisfactorily on my D90. I was recently
>asked to do a wedding for a friend's daughter so I rented a
>D7000 with Nikkor 24-70 mm and Nikkor 70-200 mm lenses. I put
>the 70-200 lens on my D90 and gave it to my son to shoot some
>wedding pics. I shot most of the wedding with the 24-70 lens
>on the D7000. Comparing the pictures afterwards, it was clear
>that the D90/70-200 mm combination pictures were significantly
>sharper that the D7000/24-70 mm combination. At the time I
>attributed it to the fact that there was no VR on the 24-70
>lens and that I perhaps didn't hold the camera still enough.
>The pictures could be sharpened up well enough in post, but I
>expected better sharpness out of the camera. Both these
>lenses are renowned for their sharpness.
>
>I subsequently bought a new D7000 about a month ago and
>started using my own lenses on it. I immediately noticed my
>pictures were softer than I used to get with the same lenses
>on the D90. Then I saw the stories on back-focusing on the
>D7000 in Nikonians. I printed a focus chart and started
>experimenting with both lenses. Shooting both perpendicular
>to the chart and at a 45% angle while adjusting the autofocus
>fine tuning, I could just not get the camera to provide
>sharply focused pictures. I also noticed that live view focus
>was perfect. Focusing on the same subject, the live view
>focus outperformed the autofocus in sharpness every time.
>
>I then took the camera and 18-200 mm lens to Nikon (there's a
>Nikon repair facility not far from my home). They kept the
>camera/lens combination for about two weeks, and then gave
>them back. Nikon commented that they adjusted the autofocus
>on the camera and they also replaced the swm motor in the
>lens, both under warranty.
>
>I went back to the focus chart again, expecting the
>camera/lens combination to now perform better but to my
>disappointment the results were still not good enough. So I
>went through the same excercise again, fiddling with autofocus
>fine tuning with both lenses. The end result is I now have
>two lenses that focus well enough. The 18-200 mm lens is set
>to default to -17 in the autofocus fine tuning and the 150-500
>is set to -15. Bottom line, if Nikon didn't make the
>adjustments they did, neither of my lenses would provide good
>enough autofocus even at -20.
>
>Speaking for myself, my brand new D700 straight from the
>factory was faulty to the point where the autofocus fine
>tuning could not compensate. I can't speak for others who
>complain about back focus on new D7000 cameras, but mine was
>clearly faulty. And I am very disappointed. I expected
>Nikon's repair facility to get the autofocus better than what
>they achieved. I think it's unacceptable that I should still
>have to fine tune the autofocus after they supposedly repaired
>it, especially on the 18-200 mm lens.
>
>Regards


The 3 different D7000 cameras I tried have the same problems your having....I also used different lenses on a D90 , D300 and D700 and had no focus problems and I did not have to use any lens focus adjustment on these models.

  

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MasterDabber Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Dec 2005Thu 01-Nov-12 06:38 PM
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#63. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Camberley, GB
          

This thread isn't very encouraging. I've been debating whether to "splash the cash" on a D7000 but this problem seems to be quite prevalent and keep returning cameras for repair or replacement doesn't appeal to me. Perhaps it's back to the drawing board.
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#65. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Thu 01-Nov-12 06:59 PM by gfinlayson

Maidenhead, GB
          

>This thread isn't very encouraging. I've been debating
>whether to "splash the cash" on a D7000 but this
>problem seems to be quite prevalent and keep returning cameras
>for repair or replacement doesn't appeal to me. Perhaps it's
>back to the drawing board.
>Derek
>
>"You might think that, I couldn't possibly
>comment"

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I don't understand why you find this thread discouraging. The OP says he is on his 3rd faulty camera, yet a number of experienced users and two forum moderators have called the reliability and validity of his test method into question.

I'm about to buy my 3rd D7000 - I sold my first one to go full-frame, realised the drawbacks of a D700 for wildlife shooting, sold that and bought a D7000 again, and am in the process of buying another D7000 to have a second body.

I have never had any issues focusing or otherwise with a D7000. Sure, my 80-200 apparently needs -2 to -3 on AF fine tune as tested with a focus chart, but I have never had any issues with soft photos in real life use even at f/2.8!

I do, however, prefer to capture images over taking photographs of test charts.....

  

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#66. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

Please don't be put off by this thread. We have many happy D7000-owning members at Nikonians, and I'm quite certain that the percentage of these cameras that are legitimately returned is no higher than any other similar model

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#75. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Cardiff, GB
          

>Please don't be put off by this thread. We have many happy
>D7000-owning members at Nikonians, and I'm quite certain that
>the percentage of these cameras that are legitimately returned
>is no higher than any other similar model

It would only be natural for anyone to be put off from buying a D7000 from this thread, and from several others that there have been.
It would be great and refreshing if there were hard statistics available comparing the reliability of various camera models, - numbers. But I suppose the only people who could do that would be Nikon or the repair and retail centres that they partner with. Or maybe an independent consumer outfit like "Which Magazine". I'm sure that kind of good quality information is available when it comes to cars and washing machines and important things like medical procedures.

But, even with the most reliable information, at the end of the day, you just have to take your chances and hope that what you get is on the successful living side of the statistical split, and not in the fatal fuzzy focused failure fraction. So hope for the best, but don't be too surprised if it doesn't work out that way.

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#71. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          

>This thread isn't very encouraging. I've been debating
>whether to "splash the cash" on a D7000 but this
>problem seems to be quite prevalent and keep returning cameras
>for repair or replacement doesn't appeal to me. Perhaps it's
>back to the drawing board.
>Derek
>
>"You might think that, I couldn't possibly
>comment"

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Hello.....I don't want to discourage anyone from buying this camera......There are so many things I love about this camera..... I cannot imagine that all copies of the D7000 camera having this focus problem....... I can use my D7000 with a -20 focus adjustment and you would not see anything wrong with my pictures even though the focus will be very slightly off.

  

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#72. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Camberley, GB
          

OK, well I take your points and I'll suspend any decision for the moment and keep an eye on this thread and the D7000 section in general.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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#106. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Vallejo, US
          

the Sky is Falling

One or two people seem to have a problem and all I see is gloom and doom.

If there is a bad batch of D7000s so be it. Remeember the D7000 is still the best APS camera available.

Bob

  

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#64. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

Can you post an image from the wedding where the AF was not in focus? Be sure to have the meta data intact. Maybe we can see what is going on. You mentioned the images were not sharp, did you mean they were generally not sharp or that the wrong focal plane was sharp. Was anything perfectly in focus?
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#67. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Milton, CA
          

I have the pictures both in RAW and JPEG Normal. Too large to post here, so if you give me some steps to follow with either RAW or jpeg to resize, save with metadata intact, I'll do so.

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Fri 02-Nov-12 10:58 AM
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#68. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
In response to Reply # 67
Fri 02-Nov-12 11:03 AM by J_Harris

US
          


Hi Koos,

There is detailed instructions at the link below for posting pictures.

http://wiki.nikonians.org/index.php/How_do_I_post_images%3F



For resizing instructions use the link below:

http://wiki.nikonians.org/index.php/Resizing


Looking forward to seeing your images.

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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Fri 02-Nov-12 06:36 PM
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#73. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Yorkshire, GB
          

>I have the pictures both in RAW and JPEG Normal. Too large
>to post here, so if you give me some steps to follow with
>either RAW or jpeg to resize, save with metadata intact, I'll
>do so.
>
>Regards

The easiest way is probably to upload an image "direct from camera" to your Nikonians gallery. The Gallery sofware will resize the image to 1800 pixels on the longest side whilst keeping the EXIF data intact. You're also given a convenient 'For forum post' link which you can put into the forum to give the small version of the image in the post, with a clickable link to the large version.

HTH
Chris

  

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#83. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Newburg, US
          

Actually, it would be much better if you could post the raw files in an online storage location and provide a link to those files. A site like Dropbox would work well.

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#86. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Sat 03-Nov-12 07:03 PM by dm1dave

Lowden, US
          

Hi Koos,

Sorry to hear about the issues that you have had.

If you want to pursue this and post some image please start another thread as this one is getting awfully long and difficult to keep track of.

Thank you.

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#107. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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falkirk, GB
          

That's just silly.

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#108. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          

It's normal procedure for us to manage longer threads so that they don't get too diffucult to navigate and take too long to load (particularly for those on slower connections).

This thread - at over 100 posts - has passed the point where we should really be starting to wind it down, so Dave's request was quite appropriate

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#109. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Tue 06-Nov-12 11:19 PM by J_Harris

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Hum, way back in post #67 Koos asked for instructions on how to post pictures. I gave him links to the relevant Nikonian help/instructions page, but still no pictures posted in this, or another new thread.

So, Koos we need pictures to help you. Are you still having difficulties in posting the pictures or did you decide not to pursue your focus issue? Inquiring minds want to know - and want to help.

At Nikonian we never leave a fellow member behind.

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#104. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Tue 06-Nov-12 02:00 PM by Rassie

Milton, CA
          

After sending my D7000 to Nikon for repair of back-focusing it came back improved, although I still need to dial in -15 and -17 respectively for the two lenses I use on this body. See my earlier note on this.

I had a telephone discussion with one of their techs today and learned the following:
1) As long as using the autofocus fine tuning produces acceptable results, the camera is considered to be within specification. So any fine tuning setting between -20 and +20 that enables acceptable autofocus is within specification.
2) The lens-specific autofocus fine tuning OVERRIDES any general default autofocus fine tune settings that the user dials in. This agrees with my own tests that I did. There has been some speculation on this forum that autofocus fine tune values set for default and lens specific are added to each other for a total potential of -40 or +40. Not so. Nikon says the lens-specific fine tune settings take priority over the default values.

Based on my own experience I would advise the following: If you have a camera that back- or front-focuses to the point where autofocus fine-tuning cannot correct this, send the camera to Nikon for adjustment. It's such a great camera otherwise that there is just nothing else out there that I would prefer for the type of photography I do.

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#105. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Paignton, GB
          


>2) The lens-specific autofocus fine tuning OVERRIDES any
>general default autofocus fine tune settings that the user
>dials in. This agrees with my own tests that I did. There
>has been some speculation on this forum that autofocus fine
>tune values set for default and lens specific are added to
>each other for a total potential of -40 or +40. Not so.
>Nikon says the lens-specific fine tune settings take priority
>over the default values.

Thank you for clearing that up - I guess we have to assume that Nikon know what they are talking about

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#110. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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US
          


>2) The lens-specific autofocus fine tuning OVERRIDES any
>general default autofocus fine tune settings that the user
>dials in. This agrees with my own tests that I did. There
>has been some speculation on this forum that autofocus fine
>tune values set for default and lens specific are added to
>each other for a total potential of -40 or +40. Not so.
>Nikon says the lens-specific fine tune settings take priority
>over the default values.
>

Yes you are correct, camera does not do +/-40. Just checked it carefully. That is just further proof that setting focus needs to be done methodically.

  

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#111. "RE: Nikon D7000 Focus Problem"
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Wed 07-Nov-12 09:47 PM by dm1dave

Lowden, US
          

Okay, we are at over 110 posts in this thread. The new posts are intermingled with older ones and it is difficult to follow the conversations. In fact we seem to have two or three distinct conversations all mixed together here.

So, I am locking the thread now.

Feel free to start a new thread to continue any of the conversations.

Thank you.

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