Go to a  "printer friendly" view of this message which allow an easy print Printer-friendly copy Go to the page which allows you to send this topic link and a message to a friend Email this topic to a friend
Forums Lobby GET TO KNOW YOUR CAMERA & MASTER IT Nikon D7100, D7000 (Public) topic #19466
View in linear mode

Subject: "What focus settings do you use?" Previous topic | Next topic
stevenfstein Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Nov 2007Tue 26-Jun-12 12:52 PM
32 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
"What focus settings do you use?"


US
          

Have the D7000 and have been using mainly with the 18-200 and have not been having great results. Focus is off and I'm not sure if it is me or the camera/lens or setting I'm using. I shoot both in auto and aperture. If I take a picture of my wife/daughter the focus point is on the blouse rather than the face and as a result it is slighty blurry. I was coming home from a trip and in a field were two baby deer. Took some shots at the 200 length and the focus point was the grass by their feet, not anywhere on the deer. Shooting at f8. There are some shots that are right on but most of them are not. I'm thinking I will bring the camera and lens to Nikon in Melville (also have an older 80-200 that has a slight dent on the outside ring)but was wondering if it is something I'm doing wrong.

Best.... Steve

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
Subject Author Message Date ID
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
luckyphoto Silver Member
26th Jun 2012
1
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
elec164 Silver Member
26th Jun 2012
4
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
stevenfstein Silver Member
26th Jun 2012
2
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
elec164 Silver Member
26th Jun 2012
3
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
mjhach Silver Member
27th Jun 2012
5
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
ShrimpBoy Silver Member
27th Jun 2012
6
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
Omaha
27th Jun 2012
7
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
paul_7e Silver Member
27th Jun 2012
8
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
greenwing Gold Member
27th Jun 2012
11
     Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
paul_7e Silver Member
27th Jun 2012
12
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
elec164 Silver Member
27th Jun 2012
9
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
MotoMannequin Moderator
27th Jun 2012
10
     Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
ledgefork
03rd Nov 2012
14
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
dbrook
27th Jun 2012
13
Reply message RE: What focus settings do you use?
dfaughtcvt Silver Member
05th Nov 2012
15

luckyphoto Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010Tue 26-Jun-12 01:39 PM
739 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#1. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0


Port Charlotte, US
          

It would help if you could supply more information.

- What auto focus settings were you using?
- How did you determine the focus point? Visual of the image or where the camera actually focused?
- Provide an image of the deer with the EXIF data available.

The depth of field at f8 should have put much of the deer shot in focus so that part is a little concerning, however, without seeing the image it's hard to make any comments of value.


Larry

"Red is gray and yellow white, but we decide which is right
....and which is an illusion"

Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Tue 26-Jun-12 02:11 PM
1966 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#4. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 1


US
          

>The depth of field at f8 should have put much of the deer shot
>in focus so that part is a little concerning,

Larry brings up a good point here and that is DOF.

DOF is dependent upon magnification factor and viewing distance. Most charts and calculators are based on an 8x10 print viewed at about 18 inches. Printing larger and view from the same distance and the relative sharpness changes.

We are now routinely viewing enlargements that were unimaginable when shooting film. If you’re evaluating your 16MP images for focus point using 100% view on screen, then only the actual focus plane will look relatively sharp for the DOF at that magnification and viewing distance will be quite narrow. If you actually made an 8x10 print, what seemed out of focus may now look fine.

Pete

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

stevenfstein Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Nov 2007Tue 26-Jun-12 01:44 PM
32 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#2. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

I'll try and upload this evening, thanks....

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Tue 26-Jun-12 01:49 PM
1966 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#3. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

From the information you give us it’s tough to say Steve. There is so much that can go wrong with achieving AF that it could be a camera/lens issue, or pilot error.

The complexities of testing AF are covered well in two articles at lens rental by Roger Cicala. They can be found here and here . Phase Deteciton AF also works within a tolerable accuracy not a precise calibration. As such your 18-200 performance might well be different when mounted on your D7000 then when mounted on mine.

Perhaps a sample image showing the issue with the EXIF data intact will help us see what settings you are using, and what issues you are having.

Pete

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mjhach Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Dec 2010Wed 27-Jun-12 02:57 AM
489 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#5. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0


Simcoe, CA
          

I gave my combo, like yours, into Toronto Nikon shop and they fixed AF issues (backfocus issues) and now things are fine. Another post, indicates viewing at 100% DON'T DO IT, as its not the way you are likely to view your final image, and DOF will be too short.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

ShrimpBoy Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006Wed 27-Jun-12 04:00 AM
882 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#6. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed 27-Jun-12 04:02 AM by ShrimpBoy

Brighton and Hove, GB
          

When reviewing the image on the back of the camera, pressing the up or down button on the 4-way controller will cycle through different levels of data display, one of which shows the actual focus point that was used for focusing as a small red box. View NX can show you the focus point too if you want to do this on the computer.

If the image is not in sharpest focus at this red box, your camera's AF system possibly needs calibration or you need to turn on AF Fine Tune and set up an adjustment for this lens.

If the red box does match the sharpest focus in the image, then AF is working and you have to discover why that red box isn't where you wanted it. The most likely answer is that you're using the 39-point 3D tracking mode, which allows the camera to continually shift focus between the entire grid of AF points. On some subjects it will dance all over the place. Try a non-tracking mode where you have to tell the camera which AF point to use and see if that helps.

Gary
"Yea, Sussex by the sea!" - Rudyard Kipling

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012Wed 27-Jun-12 01:34 PM
523 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#7. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 6


Omaha, US
          

^^^^
THIS is right on the money!

Visit my Nikonians gallery
Most of my Nikon photos end up here.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
paul_7e Silver Member Charter MemberWed 27-Jun-12 01:47 PM
300 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#8. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 6


US
          

How do you set the display on the back of the camera so that the focus point only shows up when pressing the up or down button on the 4-way controller? When I set the focus point using the Playback Menu, the focus point displays when I turn on the display and only disappears when I press the up or down button to view the histograms. Thanks.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Wed 27-Jun-12 04:29 PM
1299 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#11. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 8


Yorkshire, GB
          

>How do you set the display on the back of the camera so that
>the focus point only shows up when pressing the up or down
>button on the 4-way controller? When I set the focus point
>using the Playback Menu, the focus point displays when I turn
>on the display and only disappears when I press the up or down
>button to view the histograms. Thanks.

Oh, cheese... there are several possible displays on the rear LCD. When selected, the display displays the last option that you selected. Up or down on the 4-way pad cycles through the possible displays.

Chris

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
paul_7e Silver Member Charter MemberWed 27-Jun-12 06:28 PM
300 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#12. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 11


US
          

Actually, on my D7K, if the focus point is set to on using the Playback Menu, the display never shows just the photo. The other option I have selected is the RGB Histogram and that shows the 3-color histogram and the white histogram when I cycle thru the display using the up/down button on the 4-way controller. So, with the focus point set to on, when I press the playback button after taking a photo, the first screen shows the focus point, and when I press the up/down button, the next 2 screens show the 2 histograms, and then it's back to the focus point when I press the up/down button. I never see just the photo unless I turn off the focus point.

Paul

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Wed 27-Jun-12 03:03 PM
1966 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#9. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 6


US
          

>If the image is not in sharpest focus at this red box, your
>camera's AF system possibly needs calibration or you need to
>turn on AF Fine Tune and set up an adjustment for this lens.
>

There are a number of reasons why AF might fail, some of which are well described in the manual. So using the average scene to evaluate focus issues is in general problematic. If you continually feel your results are less than optimal, then using a good well lit high contrast target properly aligned is the only way to see if there is indeed a calibration issue, and if AF Fine Tune might be of value.

Pete

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
MotoMannequin Moderator Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Nikonian since 11th Jan 2006Wed 27-Jun-12 04:12 PM
8582 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to send message via AOL IM
#10. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 6


Livermore, CA, US
          

Gary is spot on - if the AF point isn't where you want it, then it's completely premature to question the AF system or start wondering about DOF. You have to get the focus point right before anything else even has a chance of falling into place.

Start with the basics - set your AF system to single point, and when shooting, use the 4-way selector to choose where you want that point. I recommend setting your camera to focus from the AE-L/AF-L button and leave it in AF-C, but assuming you focus using the shutter release, for portraits, set the camera so AF-S, and for moving objects, AF-C. press halfway and give a second for focus (and VR) to settle. Elbows braced against your body, breathe slowly, and gently squeeze (don't press or stab) during your exhale.

Larry - a Bay Area Nikonian
My Nikonians gallery

www.tempered-light.com

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
ledgefork Registered since 03rd Nov 2012Sat 03-Nov-12 10:23 PM
1 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#14. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 10


Oakley, US
          

Are you at the Wave in your member photo?

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

dbrook Registered since 18th Apr 2012Wed 27-Jun-12 11:03 PM
15 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#13. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 0


CA
          

The first couple weeks with my new D7000 were extremely frustrating and discouraging. I started out with lots of things set on Auto. I just couldn't master the 3D tracking or 39 point system. Eventually I found my way to this forum and followed a lot of the advise I found here. I switched to a setup like MotoMannequin has suggested and I immediately got amazing results. Here's a shot I took the first day after switching to single point. I was shooting some stationary objects on the ground when this goose exploded out of the marsh so I just started shooting in single exposure mode, not continuous. I wasn't prepared for this scenario. The shutter speed wasn't optimum for a flying bird shot so I was pleasantly surprised with the results. Don't give up on the camera yet.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
dfaughtcvt Silver Member Nikonian since 03rd Oct 2012Mon 05-Nov-12 03:54 PM
48 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#15. "RE: What focus settings do you use?"
In response to Reply # 13


Chicago, US
          

Nice shot, dbrook!

Deb

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silence.”
― Ansel Adams

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Forums Lobby GET TO KNOW YOUR CAMERA & MASTER IT Nikon D7100, D7000 (Public) topic #19466 Previous topic | Next topic


Take the Nikonians Tour and learn more about being a Nikonian Wiki /FAQ /Help Listen to our MP3 photography radio channels Find anything on Nikon and imaging technology - fast!

Copyright © Nikonians 2000, 2014
All Rights Reserved

Nikonians®, NikoScope® and NikoniansAcademy™ are trademarks owned by Nikonians.org.
Nikon®, Nikonos® and Nikkor® are registered trademarks of Nikon Corporation.