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jmiguez Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Oct 2010Tue 07-Feb-12 12:59 AM
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In looking at the posts by members selling cameras, I often see listed the total number of camera clicks. Where is this found on the D7000?

I have looked through the D7000 forum search and Thom Hogan pdf bood on the D7000. I can't find "total clicks", Total number of shots", etc. anywhere. I am curious as to the number of shots on my D7000 body. I am getting close to the 9999 mark again. I don't remember if I am coming up on 20,000 or 30,000 shots?

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N4TVC Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jul 2006Tue 07-Feb-12 01:15 AM
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Tue 07-Feb-12 01:16 AM by N4TVC

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Hi John, I believe just about any EXIF viewer app will show the total shutter cycles. I use EXIF Viewer on a Mac. Use the EXIF viewer to look at the complete EXIF data for your last shot and it will show the total actuations.

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 01:20 AM
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John:

As far as I know there is not anywhere in the D7000 that will tell you the shutter count and the EXIF does not display it in Nikons's Capture or View NX either.

What a lot people do is go to the website below and upload a picture and it will extract the shutter count and display it for you.

http://www.myshuttercount.com/

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four eighty sparky Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Apr 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 01:56 AM
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>As far as I know there is not anywhere in the D7000 that will
>tell you the shutter count and the EXIF does not display it in
>Nikons's Capture or View NX either.
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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 02:18 AM
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#4. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Ken:

Um, ok.

1) I stand by my statement that the D7000 (in camera) does not display the "camera clicks", if it does, where?

2) I stand by my statement that both Nikon's Capture or View NX does not display "camera clicks" from the EXIF, if either do, where?

Where can I download this "Panda IEXIF 2" program you referred to?

Thanks

Jerry


Edit: Disregard. I found it at:
http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/download.htm

However, it has only been tested with Win98/Me/2000/XP/Vista not Windows 7 and the latest version was released 2008-04-22.

Have you tested it for compatibility on Windows 7?

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four eighty sparky Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Apr 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 03:39 AM
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>However, it has only been tested with Win98/Me/2000/XP/Vista
>not Windows 7 and the latest version was released 2008-04-22.
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>Have you tested it for compatibility on Windows 7?
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>Thanks again.
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Works just fine on my Win7 machine. You can always run it under WinXP Compatibility mode.

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jmiguez Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Oct 2010Tue 07-Feb-12 02:30 AM
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I am trying to up load a photo into Myshuttercount. I am in a Hampton Inn and teh 20 megbyte file has been uploading for 20 mins.

Don't know if it will work tonight. I may have to wait until I get home.

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J_Harris Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Mar 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 03:21 AM
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John (and anyone else who is interested):

The "Panda IEXIF 2" program that Ken referred to may or may not help you depending on what format the picture is in.

I downloaded the "freeware" version and it is a nice program and lists a lot of information from the EXIF including the "shutter count", but it only reads jpeg. I tried to view the EXIF in the D7000's NEF (RAW) photos and it will not read them. The program was last updated in 2008. It does read the D7000's jpeg, the jpeg's in Nikonian's galleries, and attached forum jpeg photos just fine.

If you want to use it with Tif pictures you must purchase the "standard" version for $49.99.

If the "freeware" version would read jpeg, Tif, and the D7000's NEF (RAW) photos it would be a fantastic program.

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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Tue 07-Feb-12 08:23 AM
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#12. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Try PhotoME. It's free, and does NEF as well as jpeg. Probably tiff too, though I'm not sure. Another one that's not been updated for a while, but I'm sure the Beta version works with D7000 files.

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Chris:

Good find. "PhotoME" looks interesting. The FAQ on the website has a lot of good information about the program. For "freeware" it has more information and options than you would expect, e.g. focus points - probably more than most users really want or need.

Another "free" toy to play with is always welcome, and the author claims there is absolutely NO spyware, viruses, etc. in the program. I'll give it a test run later today. Thanks for the link.

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Tue 07-Feb-12 08:22 PM by four eighty sparky

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..........
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>If the "freeware" version would read jpeg, Tif, and
>the D7000's NEF (RAW) photos it would be a fantastic program.
>
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Simply convert a .NEF or .TIF to a .JPG.

Problem solved.

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gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005Tue 07-Feb-12 01:58 PM
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#14. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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It is best to only test Jpeg images with the online shutter count web pages. The entire image needs to be uploaded before any of the file can be processed.

Note there is far more information in the Exif data than most photo editors/viewers display. Further there is new data being added on a monthly basis as new cameras, lenses, and flashes are being added. Also the Exif data is used in more than just image files. It in used in media files, PDF, Zip, and others.

I use ExifTool by Phil Harvey because it have versions for Windows, Macintosh, and Unix systems. It has the ability to display non-standard tags or whole blocks of unknown data in a hexadecimal data dump. It is updated on a regular basis and the tag data for many manufacturers and camera models is regularly updated for new data being added to the Exif data.

If you look a the tag data for Nikon, for the Speedlights it is possible to see the firmware version and even the some of the settings for the remotely controlled Speedlights. If you are interested in the settings used by Picture Controls, it is also there.


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elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009Tue 07-Feb-12 02:28 AM
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#5. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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John, I see you have PS CS5. I only have CS3 and used to use this method with my D80 NEF's, but can't verify that it would work with the D7000 NEF's, but cannot see why it would not. And I imagine it should apply to PS CS5. So if you don't have a EXIF reader and don't wish to download one try this.

Open a NEF in PS and under File/File Info... a window will open (you can also use the short cut ALT+SHIFT+CTRL+I) and at the bottom of the list will be Advanced. Expand that line and about the forth line down will be a line that looks like a URL.

I'm going to break it up with the word 'followed by', otherwise it will be interrupted as a clickable link, but will take you nowhere. The line is http followed by :/ns.adobe.com/exit/1.0/aux/

When you expand that line at or near the bottom should be a line for 'aux:image number'.

That should be the shutter count.

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Cousin Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Oct 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 05:07 AM
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#9. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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I mostly use Picasa (Google)when I don't need to get into Lightroom
It displays shutter count in both jpeg and raw
And it's free!



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GCDawn Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2010Tue 07-Feb-12 06:30 AM
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#10. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Gold Coast, AU
          

I just downloaded Picasa and I tried a jpg and a raw - I cannot see shutter count in the Properties panel. Am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks
Dawn.

  

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Cousin Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Oct 2011Tue 07-Feb-12 07:45 AM
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#11. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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You're in the right place, GC
Scroll down the properties panel, in between 'Lens type' and 'GPS Version ID' you should find 'Shutter Count'
That count number refers to the camera, not the lens

And you're originally from Melbourne?


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GCDawn Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2010Wed 08-Feb-12 01:09 AM
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Gold Coast, AU
          

Thanks M,
Alas, I don't see Lens Type at all, and GPS Version ID only appears if I am looking at a NEF. I probably have a different version of Picasa I guess. It's 3.8.9.390!
No I'm not originally from Melbourne, but I lived there for 23 years and I still miss it.
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JosephK Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006Wed 08-Feb-12 04:43 AM
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#21. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Seattle, WA, US
          

You need to make sure the picture is unedited. Many editors discard the EXIF data they do not understand, especially the "maker notes" section.

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jmiguez Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Oct 2010Wed 08-Feb-12 10:59 AM
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#23. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Lafayette, US
          

Pete, I found it where you said I would. Thanks!

The file number 30931 did not match with the Folder number and file sequence within the folder. The folder was 103D7000 and the file within the folder was 111.

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#16. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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When I download my pics from the card to my hard drive (using a card reader), the folder shows up with a name "104D7000." This tells me, I believe, that I've gone through 30,000 clicks and I'm on my way to 40,000. When the camera was new, the folder was named "101D7000", after I ran through the first 10K pics, the folder name rolled over to "102D7000" etc.

My last pic was numbered "EGK0915" in folder 104D7000 so it is the 30,915th shutter actuation.

Perhaps someone with a new camera could confirm that the original folder name is 101D7000.

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#17. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Richmond, US
          

It could be, but there are various reasons why the folder name might change, rendering your computation either conservative or optimistic.

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jmiguez Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Oct 2010Wed 08-Feb-12 12:34 AM
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#18. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Lafayette, US
          

I took some pictures today. During the session the folder changed from 102D7000 to 103D7000.

You may be on to something Eric?

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#19. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Chicago, US
          

Check your user manual about file names. If the count in the file name reaches 9999 then a new folder is created.

page 218:

If the current folder is numbered 999 and contains either 999 photographs or a photograph numbered 9999, the shutter-release button will be disabled and no further photographs can be taken. Choose Reset for Custom Setting d8 (File number sequence) and then either format the current memory card or insert a new memory card.

Also see page 218 setting d8

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#22. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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>When I download my pics from the card to my hard drive (using
>a card reader), the folder shows up with a name
>"104D7000." This tells me, I believe, that I've
>gone through 30,000 clicks and I'm on my way to 40,000.

This would be a very inaccurate way to measure shutter releases. Folder names can be incremented (or reset) for many reasons.

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#24. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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As can image file names be reset.

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#25. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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>As can image file names be reset.


As can EXIF data be edited.

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#26. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Yes, but (a) if the owner takes the shot out of the camera, (s)he has a pretty good notion that it's really what the camera put there, and (b) although it is possible to tamper with the counter stored in the camera, that's a very involved process that is highly unlikely to be widespread. (This process involves decrypting things, just for starters.)

On the other hand, there are half a dozen ways to affect the directory and file names through the normal course of using the camera, and a couple more ways to affect it through other mechanisms such as using the card in another camera or putting something onto it via a card reader and computer. The name of the file is therefore VASTLY less reliable than the counter buried in the EXIF data.

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#29. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Re: the folder and photo number method.

Yes, someone could cheat I suppose, and deliberately confound the numbering system .... but the method I describe will give a good idea of the number of clicks to a user who is HONEST. Check it out .. do the EXIF method and compare it to the folder no./picture number and see how close they are.

When buying a used camera, I would do the exif method to be sure I wasn't buying a tired war horse, but after that, the easier method I describe works fine.

As the photo number and folder number is generated in the camera and not in the card, I don't see how using a card in another camera could effect the numbering sequence. One could confuse the camera by having two identical cameras and sharing a card between them without erasing the card's content before changing cameras. But we're getting a bit far afield here. I'm trying to make this simple.

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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Wed 08-Feb-12 07:08 PM
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#27. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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I think the original firmware would change folders at random. Also, there are some instances where the shutter may cycle without an image being recorded - live view comes to mind.

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#28. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Live View increments the shutter cycle count.

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picbybdm Registered since 27th Jan 2012Sun 12-Feb-12 05:57 PM
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#30. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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You can start a new folder with button pushes if you want and presumably you could do that by accident. I do it on purpose as a way to keep photos sectioned on a card. Of course you can also start a new folder in sequence or with any random number in the setup menu of the camera.

  

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RLDubbya Gold Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Fri 24-Feb-12 07:17 PM
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#31. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Why can't you just go into Menus -> Tools-> Battery Info -> and read the total number of pics counter?

  

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N4TVC Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jul 2006Fri 24-Feb-12 07:35 PM
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#32. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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I think that the Battery shutter cycles resets on each battery recharge, plus some folks use multiple batteries.

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Cousin Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Oct 2011Fri 24-Feb-12 08:16 PM
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#33. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Just checked the battery info, shows Pic Meter at 136
So would be from when that battery was changed recently
Last lens count was around three and a half thousand


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RLDubbya Gold Member Nikonian since 24th Dec 2011Fri 24-Feb-12 08:34 PM
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#34. "RE: Total number of camera clicks"
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Ah, I would've realized that later on today. I've actually not changed batteries in the bodies since January (?). I got 1500 exposures on one, and it just started showing up as drained.

  

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