luckyphoto Port Charlotte, US Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010
Tue 16-Apr-13 01:59 PM
#1. "RE: Are there rumblings of an Aperture v4?" In response to Reply # 0
While I'm a diehard Aperture fan I look at what Apple has done or not done with software recently. Here are the last updates on the major Apple software packages.
iWork '09 2009 iLife '11 2011 Logic Pro 9 2011 Aperture 3 2010 Final Cut X 2010
When was the last time you saw a Mac software package released or updated? Rather than say yes or no to new software, they just stay silent and don't care if you move to a competitor.
I believe Apple is slowly killing off the iMac and MacBook in favor of the iPad and iPhone, so the lack of software updates makes sense. OS X is being replaced by iOS.
I'm not saying Apple is right in their approach and I'm definitely not running out to buy an iPad. I didn't buy a bunch of expensive photographic equipment to view my work on an iPhone and I'm definitely not going to hold my iPad with one hand while I try to edit my photos with my finger.
Apple shot themselves in the foot with their stance on Blu Ray and I believe they still have some bullets left in the gun!
"Red is gray and yellow white, but we decide which is right ....and which is an illusion"
#3. "RE: Are there rumblings of an Aperture v4?" In response to Reply # 2
I keep trying Lightroom now and again and just can't grow to like it. I think I'm annoyed that there are three additional modules I never touch (Print, Slideshow, and Web). And for all the glitz of the added features, my output files still look essentially the same as I can get from Aperture. For those times I need more advanced editing, a round trip to PS CS6 is simple in Aperture so things like healing brushes in LR aren't all that appealing. Finally, all my Aperture plugins are a bit tricky to go back and get working in LR.
I want to convert to LR, but nothing I've found is making it 'stick'.
#5. "RE: Are there rumblings of an Aperture v4?" In response to Reply # 3
Just curious (Aperture user, but not PS)... the roundtrip you talked about... Is that just exporting the version (as 16-bit tiff, I assume), then reimporting PS edits (that's what I do for PTGui)? Or is there a way to make that more convenient?
Bravozulu Los Angeles, US Nikonian since 04th Jun 2012
Tue 30-Apr-13 07:50 PM
#6. "RE: Are there rumblings of an Aperture v4?" In response to Reply # 5 Tue 30-Apr-13 08:40 PM by Bravozulu
I am currently reading The D.A.M. Book, by Peter Krogh. Everyone involved with PP should read it. One of the long goals for any photographer (and this goes back to film days) is the longevity of the media. DAM stands for Digital Asset Management.
In the case of DSLR, that means will computers 15 years from now be able to read the image files? And that goes for PP software as well. The 'magic bullet' just devised by Adobe is the DNG format of saving files. DNG is an image source file that encapsulates (bundles in an envelope) the original proprietary source code of the Nikon or Canon Raw files. And adds on metadata, sidecar, and changes made that don't alter the RAW original. All this is non-destructive to the original.
So with the DNG format, you see quick previews showing the latest edits, and it reduces file size significantly compared to TIFF and other formats.
Adobe has published the source code for DNG, and so any software invented say 5 years from now if it incorporates DNG capability will read that bundle and work with it. Any programer would have to have rocks in his head not to take advantage of this marvelous method of ensuring universality of our precious files. And, as Krogh points out. Adobe has a long history of honoring universal files. Think of .pdf files. That's the broad thinking of Adobe.
It will be awhile before I get a new iMac that will run PP stuff. In the time I wait, I will base my buying decision (AP/LR) largely on whether or not the Apple people are sane enough to incorporate the DNG format into Aperture. If they don't, Aperture is doomed to obsolesence. Can anyone please tell me how to correctly spell - obsolecense?