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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 01:56 PM
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"LR wothout CC?"
Mon 04-Aug-14 02:00 PM by limeyzen

Waynesville, US
          

I have LR 5.5 installed but never used - yet. Bought it from Laura Shoe and just received her newsletter wherein she says that one can use LR without subscribing to CC but one loses access to certain modules. Actually she phrases it as "starting with LR 5.5 if you discontinue your subscription to CC you can continue to use LR but lose access to Develop and Map modules, sync to mobile devices... ."(paraphrased)

I'm confused (not hard to do since I am technology challenged). When I bought LR I thought it could be used in it's full functionality as a stand alone and separate from CC. This seems to say not. Help!!

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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian. Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002Mon 04-Aug-14 02:08 PM
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#1. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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McAllen, US
          

If you purchased a perpetual license version of Lightroom (stand alone) you will continue to be able to use all modules. The catch is that once Adobe stops updating that version you will be left with a stagnant program. That is not necessarily a bad thing but if you like to stay up with the technology you are at a dead end. If you purchase the monthly subscription for LR and Photoshop this will never happen.

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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 02:36 PM
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Waynesville, US
          

Thank you for the prompt response Ernesto. Actually I was mistaken in my original in that I now remember that I purchased the instructions from Laura Shoe and the software from B&H as a special offer. No matter.

Just so I am clear, are you saying that if Adobe comes out with version 6 then I am at "a dead end"? Just want to make sure I understand what a "version" is!

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Nikonian since 05th May 2002Mon 04-Aug-14 03:30 PM
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#3. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

LR 6 will be a new version, and you will need to buy a new license unless you're enrolled in CC.

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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 03:32 PM
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Waynesville, US
          

Thank you.

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PSAGuy Silver Member Nikonian since 04th Nov 2008Mon 04-Aug-14 03:49 PM
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Mon 04-Aug-14 03:50 PM by PSAGuy

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Interesting....so Rick...you mean LR6 will still be a stand alone version that I can buy ? It will be fully functional ?
I love LR and have had every version since the beginning.
I hate subscriptions however and want programs that reside on my machine.

Thanks

  

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esandy Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Nov 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 04:13 PM
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#6. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Wichita Falls, US
          

I too am trying to avoid the subscription model for as long as I can and according to Adobe, a LR stand alone version would be available for the forseeable future. So when LR6 comes out we should be able to buy a full or upgrade version.

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MarkM10431 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Apr 2013Tue 26-Aug-14 01:27 AM
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#14. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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jacksonville, US
          

I tend to skip editions of software anyway, and sometimes I won't upgrade till I need to do something the program won't do. that said, if LR ever goes subscription, I'll buy a mac and move to whatever the mac software is.

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Nikonian since 05th May 2002Mon 04-Aug-14 04:58 PM
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#7. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

Yes, you will.

>Interesting....so Rick...you mean LR6 will still be a stand
>alone version that I can buy ? It will be fully functional ?
>I love LR and have had every version since the beginning.
>I hate subscriptions however and want programs that reside on
>my machine.
>
>Thanks

Rick Walker

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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 05:27 PM
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#8. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Waynesville, US
          

This seems to fly in the face of what I interpreted Laura Shoe to be saying. I have sent her an e-mail asking for clarification and will post upon response since I surely do not, in my ignorance, want to misrepresent her.

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jbloom Gold Member Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments in several forums. Nikonian since 15th Jul 2004Mon 04-Aug-14 06:47 PM
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#9. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Wethersfield, US
          

Geoff, I think you are misinterpreting what she said.

There are two ways of licensing LR:

1) Perpetual. A one-time payment that requires no subscription but that gives you no program updates beyond the current major version (5).

2) A CC subscription that is paid periodically and includes major-version updates.

What has changed is that formerly, if you had the subscription and allowed it to expire, LR became entirely nonfunctional. Now, it will remain functional but in a hobbled state, with some modules disabled. Again, this applies ONLY to LR licensed under the subscription model. Nothing has changed for those like you who have the perpetual license.

At least, that's my understanding.

-- Jon
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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Mon 04-Aug-14 07:33 PM
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#10. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Waynesville, US
          

Jon, yes that makes sense especially when you draw out the perpetual vs CC subscriptions comparison. I did revisit her site and what seems to be missing, at least to my search, is that comparison but perhaps it is reasonable, given the topic, to assume that the reader will understand that only the CC environment is being discussed. I will be interested to see her response. Thanks again for the clarification.

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aolander Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2006Tue 05-Aug-14 11:49 AM
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#11. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Nevis, US
          

"want programs that reside on my machine"

It does reside on your machine.

Alan

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limeyzen Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Aug 2011Tue 05-Aug-14 01:24 PM
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#12. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Waynesville, US
          

Here is the reply from Laura Shoe. It is clear that absent the comparison that Jon drew out, I misunderstood so all is well.

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Here's my post that you referred to. The forum respondents are correct - Adobe has stated that they plan to continue to offer the stand-alone version. Whether it's clear or not, my post is intended to address the concerns of people who do subscribe to the CC version.

Best regards,

Laura

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#13. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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New York, US
          

RIck, when you subscribe to an Adobe CC product, you download it and it resides on your machine. You need not be on the internet to use it. Once in a while it needs to log into the mothership to ensure that you are still a subscriber and to check for updates.

Functionally it is the same as the stand-alone version, residing on your hard drive.

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PSAGuy Silver Member Nikonian since 04th Nov 2008Wed 01-Oct-14 06:21 PM
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#16. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Lake Elmo, US
          

Jon.... Ahhhh got it. Makes perfect sense. Thanks
The difference is whether I pay for a perpetual license up front and get a static version....or pay the subscription and get all updates seamlessly as they come out .

Makes sense now.
Thanks

  

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Pythagoras345 Silver Member Nikonian since 04th Mar 2006Wed 01-Oct-14 06:18 PM
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#15. "RE: LR wothout CC?"
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Amsterdam, NL
          

I have the same problem. Last year I bought LR5 and 2 months later I enrolled in the CC program. This month stopped the subscription and suddenly LR5 development is not available anymore. The chat with adobe on this issue is a worthless comment from computer "Leena". So I will not use Adobe anymore, I'm using CaptureOne, which is btw much better!!

BrightLight!,

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