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quenton8 Silver Member Awarded for bringing his experience to the Nikonians community helping members with printing and the use of post-processing software from the perspective of an IT professional. Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Sun 27-Jan-13 07:16 PM
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"CS6 move then clone ..."
Sun 27-Jan-13 07:16 PM by quenton8

Toronto, CA
          

I have seen this a few times.

First, in this case which was pretty simple, I used no layers.

I had a lamp post at night, background pretty dark, some shrub branches, pretty simple for cloning.

The lamp post was tilted (for real) and I wanted to straighten it ...

  • selected the post and the lamp on top as a rectangle
  • selected "Move" and rotated it a few degrees, leaving some small black areas around the rectangle
  • applied the transformation
  • went to clone over the black areas (remember, no layers) but it would not clone!
  • saved the image (as a tiff) and re-opened it and cloning was just fine

Is this a bug? or - more likely - did I do something wrong or miss a step?

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Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009Sun 27-Jan-13 07:31 PM
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Vantaa, FI
          

1. In your original, did you have the photo as a smart object? I'm not on my main computer now, but I don't think you can clone on a smart object layer.

2. In your procedure, did you consider or try Adaptive Wide-angle Filter instead?

Regards, Antero

  

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quenton8 Silver Member Awarded for bringing his experience to the Nikonians community helping members with printing and the use of post-processing software from the perspective of an IT professional. Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Sun 27-Jan-13 07:49 PM
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#2. "RE: CS6 move then clone ..."
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Sun 27-Jan-13 07:50 PM by quenton8

Toronto, CA
          

>1. In your original, did you have the photo as a smart
>object? I'm not on my main computer now, but I don't think you
>can clone on a smart object layer.
No -- cloning WORKS, just won't clone over the black (empty?) areas left by rotating the rectangle. I can clone over everything AROUND the black areas.
>
>2. In your procedure, did you consider or try Adaptive
>Wide-angle Filter instead?
I haven't -- I will -- but I was more interested in the cloning not working as I expected -- and I was wondering if it might be an answer to some of the posts that have appeared here over the last year or so about cloning "not working" sometimes!
>
>Regards, Antero

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scenicshutterbug Silver Member Nikonian since 27th May 2008Fri 01-Feb-13 11:45 AM
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#3. "RE: CS6 move then clone ..."
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Richland, US
          

Hi Dennis,

I don't think this is a bug or that you did anything wrong. Essentially, when you move the object on the background layer, you are creating a "hole" in your canvas, so there is nothing there upon which to "paint" with the clone brush. You might try using content-aware move instead. This should allow you to reposition the lamp post and then CS6 will fill in the blank spaces.

Karen

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quenton8 Silver Member Awarded for bringing his experience to the Nikonians community helping members with printing and the use of post-processing software from the perspective of an IT professional. Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Fri 01-Feb-13 01:59 PM
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Interesting that save and re-load changes that so now I CAN clone.

I save as PSD or TIFF (forget which, I was using TIFF until a few days ago, switched to PSD -- so could be either right now -- I will check when I get home).

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quenton8 Silver Member Awarded for bringing his experience to the Nikonians community helping members with printing and the use of post-processing software from the perspective of an IT professional. Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Fri 01-Feb-13 08:46 PM
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Fri 01-Feb-13 08:47 PM by quenton8

Toronto, CA
          

Solved ... a bit stupid on my part -- not paying attention to what is happening.

My steps were ...

  • rectangular selection around the lamp
  • select move tool
  • rotate selection
  • Ctrl/D -- which was ignored becuase I had not OK'ed the move yet
  • Ctrl/H -- hid the selection because Ctrl/D did not seem to .. that was my problem
  • Select CLONE tool -- which asked if I wanted to OK the move -- said YES
  • at THIS point the selection is still in place but invisible because of the CTRL/H, so clone is is only working INSIDE the invisible selection.

had I said "why did CTRL/D not de-select" I would not have had a problem.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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