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Jimmy Bemis Registered since 19th Jun 2013Wed 19-Jun-13 12:30 AM
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"D5100 or D5200?"


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Hello. I am currently using a Nikon D3000 and am considering upgrading to one of the D5xxx series. Due to storage concerns, if I purchase a D5200, I would mostly be shooting in Medium image size, but would like the option of shooting in Large for larger format prints and photos that I intend to crop.
My question is this: How does the Large-Medium-Small function actually work? If I choose Medium, for example, is my Large image simply re-sampled via firmware, or does this "turn off" some of the pixels on the sensor.
I ask because, if the former is true, I would not like to have the majority of my images compromised, and would simply go with the lower MP model.

TIA

  

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jec6613 Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Feb 2013Wed 19-Jun-13 02:14 AM
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#1. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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>
>Hello. I am currently using a Nikon D3000 and am considering
>upgrading to one of the D5xxx series. Due to storage
>concerns, if I purchase a D5200, I would mostly be shooting in
>Medium image size, but would like the option of shooting in
>Large for larger format prints and photos that I intend to
>crop.
>My question is this: How does the Large-Medium-Small function
>actually work? If I choose Medium, for example, is my Large
>image simply re-sampled via firmware, or does this "turn
>off" some of the pixels on the sensor.
>I ask because, if the former is true, I would not like to have
>the majority of my images compromised, and would simply go
>with the lower MP model.
>
>TIA

In all cases on all Nikons, it's a simple resample.

  

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Jimmy Bemis Registered since 19th Jun 2013Wed 19-Jun-13 04:07 AM
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Thank you. I asked in this forum because I thought It might work differently w/less expensive P&S cameras.

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Wed 19-Jun-13 02:19 AM
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#2. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Hi Jim,

Welcome to Nikonians!
D5200
Large - 6000 x 4000 pixels (Full resolution).
Medium - 4496 x 3000 pixels (downsampled by about 30%).
Small - 2992 x 2000 pixels (downsampled by about 50%).

Storage space is cheap.
Most of us shoot Raw to maximize IQ.

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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Jimmy Bemis Registered since 19th Jun 2013Wed 19-Jun-13 04:18 AM
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Thank you for your response.
Hmm.. Decisions, decisions.

Being that I post to the web a fair amount, I, of course have to downsample all the time. Oddly enough, I seem to get better results using the Lanczos method in IrfanView, than I do with Bi-cubic Sharpen in PS.
But that's another topic

  

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jec6613 Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Feb 2013Wed 19-Jun-13 11:36 AM
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#5. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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If you downsample the D5100 and D5200 to the same size: say, 1024x768, the D5200 will have lower noise at higher ISOs.

  

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grnzbra Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Sep 2011Wed 19-Jun-13 07:56 PM
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What is "downsampling"?

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#7. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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>What is "downsampling"?

Downsampling is essentially taking an image and averaging neighboring pixels together to produce an image with fewer pixels than before. By averaging together neighboring pixels, image noise can be reduced at the expense of resolution. For example, if a 6000x4000 image is re-sampled to 3000x2000, then each pixel in the new image is effectively derived from the signal of 4 pixels in the original. (In science this is called "binning"--we do this all the time with high resolution CCD sensors to increase weak signals. Four photosites collect 4 times the signal as one photosite, and signal-to-noise increased by the square root of 4, or 2-fold. Of course we get 1/4 of the image resolution this way, but S/N is often more desirable than resolution.

To re-iterate an earlier comment, "silicon is cheap." Shoot at full resolution, and downsample later if you must. You can always down-sample more pixels into fewer pixels later. You can't go the other way around, because the information is already gone if you downsample in-camera.

Cheers.

  

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grnzbra Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Sep 2011Fri 21-Jun-13 01:55 PM
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#8. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Is this what is happening when noise reduction is applied in post production?

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Jimmy Bemis Registered since 19th Jun 2013Sat 22-Jun-13 02:14 AM
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#9. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Sat 22-Jun-13 02:14 AM by Jimmy Bemis

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>>What is "downsampling"?
>
>To re-iterate an earlier comment, "silicon is
>cheap." Shoot at full resolution, and downsample later if
>you must. You can always down-sample more pixels into fewer
>pixels later. You can't go the other way around, because the
>information is already gone if you downsample in-camera.
>
>Cheers.

You're right, of course. I'm afraid that I'm a bit of a packrat with my photos, though. Maybe a higher-res camera would help to break me of
that habit

  

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pjonesCET Gold Member Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011Sat 22-Jun-13 03:58 PM
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#10. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Sat 22-Jun-13 11:02 PM by pjonesCET

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Shoot in Raw spend some money on SD Cards. I got 32 GB SanDisk Ultra from Walmart for $23 plus some change for my D3200. If I need to make Print Photos I use app such as Aperture or Lightroom to process and to save in jpeg format that Camera Processing uses . Photos I recently took needed to be 4X6. I sent them in Jpeg format directly to the WalGreens just up the hill from where I live. They turned out great for the purpose I used them for.

And spend the extra bucks if your going with the 5000 series on the 5200 it has the 24mp you can use to create large pictures and and when reducing the DPI you still have a lot of pixels for better looking picture.

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thomg Registered since 20th Aug 2013Tue 20-Aug-13 09:15 AM
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#11. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Hi,
In my Blog i am comparing the Nikon D5200 VS D5100:
http://www.d5200nikon.com/versus/d5200vsd5100/
please check and let me know what you think
Thanks,
Thom.

  

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grnzbra Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Sep 2011Thu 29-Aug-13 02:20 PM
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#12. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Thu 29-Aug-13 03:14 PM by grnzbra

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In your blog, are you comparing the 5100 with the 5200 or with something else. You say the price difference is about $600, but Best Buy has the with the 18-55VR for $599 and $799. ($499 for 5100 body only)

Sorry for the confusion. When I think of of a $600 difference, it is between a 5100 and a 7100. (how about doing a comparison between the 5200 and a 7100)

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buffumjr Registered since 05th Jun 2013Thu 05-Sep-13 09:05 PM
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#13. "RE: D5100 or D5200?"
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Check out B&H's ad in latest Popular Photography! Helluva deal on the 5200!!!

Makes me jealous. I bot from Cameta a 5100, refurb, and this is less than I paid.

  

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