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dperry23   US  Registered since 02nd Mar 2013 Sun 10-Mar-13 04:24 AM
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"Standard f-Stops"



According to my calculations, 2.8,4,5.7,8,11.3,16, and 22.6 should be the standard f-stops that half or double area of the diaphragm. How did we get the standard f-stops we have, and did we come to expect they half and double light on sensors?

  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014   Paignton, UK  Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003 Sun 10-Mar-13 08:42 AM
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#1. "RE: Standard f-Stops"
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Welcome to Nikonians

Successive f/stop values do indeed represent a halving (or doubling) of the area of the lens' diaphragm opening, and therefore a corresponding difference in the amount of light transmitted. That's assuming that the lens is correctly adjusted, of course

The standard numbering sequence is:

1 - 1.4 - 2 - 2.8 - 4 - 5.6 - 8 - 11 - 16 - 22 - 32 - 45

The "odd" numbers in the sequence (1.4, 2.8...) have always been rounded for convenience.

Brian
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dperry23   US  Registered since 02nd Mar 2013 Sun 10-Mar-13 10:25 AM
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I figured out the error in my calculations. I was using radius in places where I should have been using diameter. Thus,1.4, 2.0, 2.8, 4.0, 5.7, 8.0, 11.3, 16.0, and 22.6 are what I get for the exact doubling or halving of light. Now, I am trying to figure out where f-1.8 comes from and how lens makers get away with the cost difference between 1.8 and 1.4. It seems just as easy to make diaphram elements that go open up to either.

  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014   Paignton, UK  Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003 Sun 10-Mar-13 10:36 AM
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Lenses (or most of them, anyway) are not limited to full-stop steps in aperture. An f/1.8 lens is two-thirds of a stop slower than an f/1.4 lens.

The difference between lenses of f/1.8 and f/1.4 is not really in the physical diaphragm itself.

As the aperture opening gets larger, lenses tend to need a more complex (and hence more costly) optical design in order to deliver good image quality when used wide open.

Brian
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jrp Administrator JRP is one of the co-founders, has in-depth knowledge in various areas. Awarded for his contributions for the Resources   San Pedro Garza García, MX  Charter Member Sun 10-Mar-13 10:37 AM
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Sun 10-Mar-13 10:38 AM by jrp


These are the true values (with four decimals precision) of the standard apertures:

1.4142
2.0000
2.8284
4.0000
5.6568
8.0000
11.3137
16.0000
22.6274
32.0000

rounded, as Brian mentioned, for convenience

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Digital_Reality   Bangalore, IN  Registered since 19th Oct 2012 Wed 20-Mar-13 03:15 PM
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Aah thanks. Didn't know that

  

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JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit.   Seattle, WA, US  Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006 Wed 20-Mar-13 11:34 PM
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It all revolves around the square root of 2 and its multiples.

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Broadway Bob Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014warded for   Groveland, US  Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009 Thu 21-Mar-13 12:02 AM
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#7. "RE: Standard f-Stops"
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Another factor to consider is the equation which includes the focal length of the lens: lens focal length/diameter of the aperture = f-stop. The f-stop number is a convenient way of describing the exposure settings rather than noting the area of the aperture. And, a given f-stop produces the same exposure regardless of the lens focal length (for a given shutter speed). For example, 1/500th of a second at f/5.6 on a 50mm lens gives the same exposure as those settings on a 300mm lens.

This becomes obvious if you think about an exposure meter - it only gives shutter speed and aperture regardless of the lens or camera type.

Bob

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