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jerryl5150 Registered since 09th Mar 2012Thu 19-Apr-12 04:36 AM
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"D3200"


Los Angeles, US
          

Nikon announced the D3200. What do you guys think? I'm still waiting for the new 16-85mm DX that's been rumored.

http://www.nikon.com/news/2012/0419_dslr_01.htm

  

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009Thu 19-Apr-12 08:17 AM
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I guess it's down to size of the customer base, but am surprised that the D5100, 3000, 3100, D7000 and now the 3200 have all been launched in the time space of the D300s. The D300s was basically only a gentle upgrade of the D300 allowing video and dual card slots. The D5000 was launched at the same time as the D300, so basically that's 6 prosumer dSLR's to one pro camera in the space of 5 years!

Personally, I'd be quite annoyed if I had bought D5100 and D3200 as users of the Coolpix 7000 must have been when the 7100 was launched so soon after it.

I guess the D7000 was a bridge between the D300s and it's successor, but for me I have little interest until the succssor is born

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DSW90049 Gold Member Nikonian since 11th Feb 2012Thu 19-Apr-12 02:34 PM
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Los Angeles, US
          

I notice it has 24MP. My D5100 and D7000 have 16MP, and I honestly cannot see why I would need more MP than that for what I do. Of course, I am old enough to remember being teased when I bought a computer with a, then unheard of, 100MB Hard Drive, by friends who asked how I could possibly ever expect to fill that thing?

Does this mean (I know that none of us can make reliable predictions) we will see a D5200 and D7100 this year? Or?!?

Nikon has a LOT of digital camera bodies, both DX and FX, on the market right now - if you can find them in stock. How many in total are now on the market at the same time and is this really, historically, a lot of models to have out at the same time for Nikon?

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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter MemberThu 19-Apr-12 02:41 PM
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Quote>I guess it's down to size of the customer base, but am
surprised that the D5100, 3000, 3100, D7000 and now the 3200
>have all been launched in the time space of the D300s.
so basically that's 6 prosumer dSLR's to one
pro camera in the space of 5 years!
>Richard<Quote<<


Actually, I think in 5 years, they launched
6 consumer DSLRs (D3000, D3100, D3200, D90, D5000, & D5100),
4 ProSumer (D300, D300s, D700, & D7000), and
5 Pro cameras (D3, D3x, D3s, D4 & D800).

And, there is a better chance of the D7000 being upgraded than the D300.
The D7000 seems to have replaced both the D90 and D300
with no D400 specs even rumored yet.

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009Thu 19-Apr-12 03:14 PM
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#4. "RE: D3200"
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I agree and it's most disappointing that the concentration of cameras are spread between prosumer APS-C and Full frame pro cameras.

I am surprised and disappointed that Nikon have so much invested in the prosumer range of which I count the D7000, ok perhaps it's semi pro to be charitable. The D300,D300s and D700 have always been sold as a Pro cameras by Nikon, I know that because by owning one that's how I was offered my Nikon Professional User status.

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Roland DG Registered since 13th Feb 2012Thu 19-Apr-12 03:48 PM
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#5. "RE: D3200"
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Thu 19-Apr-12 03:49 PM by Roland DG

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I ordered one from Adorama, wonder if I'll get it before the D800
buyers who are still waiting .
For 700 bucks what the heck, its worth trying.

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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter MemberThu 19-Apr-12 04:41 PM
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#7. "RE: D3200"
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>I ordered one from Adorama, wonder if I'll get it before the
>D800
>buyers who are still waiting .
>For 700 bucks what the heck, its worth trying.
>
>Bob

You probably will get the D3200 sooner.

But, Best Buys will have tons of them.
They may even buy out the first batch like they did with the D7000 &/or D5100.

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NenBikonian Registered since 30th Sep 2011Thu 19-Apr-12 04:39 PM
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#6. "RE: D3200"
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Roswell, US
          

On the positive side of things...it appears to have dual IR sensors, presumably for the ML-L3 Remote. If that's the case, then that alone represents a fabulous improvement over the D3100. My wife got a D3100 shortly after it was introduced and I couldn't believe that Nikon had removed the ability to remotely trigger their entry-level camera (a feature I have enjoyed for years on my D70). So, if my interpretation of what I see on the new D3200 is correct, I'm encouraged that they've added this feature (even though I will probably never buy the D3200).

  

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pjr Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Dec 2005Fri 20-Apr-12 01:42 AM
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#8. "RE: D3200"
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Manotick, CA
          

It'll be interesting to see what the higher ISO (1600 to 3200) performance is like.

I'm more than happy with my 16 Mpx D7000, so I can't really see what more another DX format DSLR will bring me, but maybe I'll be surprised. Still contemplating the D800 and going FF.

Overall, I've been frustrated with the lack of availability of Nikon products lately - the 85mm f1.8 G, for one, still isn't available in Canada as far as I know - but one has to remember all the terrible problems they faced last year and be patient!

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#9. "RE: D3200"
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Fri 20-Apr-12 02:07 PM by AudsDad

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Have been considering an entry-level SLR for my teen daughter so that she can move up from her P&S but not continue to make me nervous when she borrows my D300.

I dithered between the D3100 and the D5100 long enough that I decided to wait for a D3200 to see if they would include a desired feature - either auto-bracketing or in-camera HDR processing. The D5100 has it but the D3100 didn't and now I am very disappointed to learn that despite all of the added features in the D3200, they couldn't see fit to add the very inexpensive feature that I and my daughter feel would be good for a novice.

As we all know, handling difficult lighting situations is one of the longest learning curve aspects in photography. Besides being helpful and sometimes fun (HDR) for even advanced shooters, it is hard for me to imagine why bracketing wasn't put into an entry-level model. It seems as though if Nikon was worried that adding too many features to the 3000 series would hurt sales of higher-tiered models, that this cheap and less complex feature could have been added and one of the more expensive and complex features held back for the D5200, etc.

Now I am still undecided - and a bit perturbed.

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jhearl Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Apr 2007Fri 20-Apr-12 03:07 PM
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#10. "RE: D3200"
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Milford, VA, US
          

I am definitely NOT impressed with the sample images on Nikon's site - http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d3200/sample.htm Some were taken with a macro lens, which should produce tack sharp images but none of them are. Maybe it's the photographers, but since it's on an official Nikon site, you'd imagine they would want to show the very best images possible.

I'm kind of expecting to see this sensor in the D300 replacement, but if that's the best it's capable of, I may have to rethink whether it would be worth it.

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#11. "RE: D3200"
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Fri 20-Apr-12 04:02 PM by richardd300

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I have just examined the images in the minutest detail and I have to say I did find them sharp in the areas where the focus was obviously meant to be! My only comment would be that the penguin image DOF is too shallow as I guess the focus point was the eye and the back feathers are slightly soft in focus.

As a keen bird and wildlife photographer who concentrates on feather details, from what I see there I would have thought they were acceptable.

Mind you my eye's aren't what they were so perhaps I'm missing something. Personally I hope the D300s replacement is 16Mp with an expeed 3 processor, but if they can do it has better ISO noise handling although pixel density in a APS-C sensor may not make that possible.

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David D Busch Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Nov 2011Tue 24-Apr-12 03:45 AM
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#12. "RE: D3200"
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I've got one ordered. By the time I get done playing with mine, I'll know if LifePixel can convert it to IR. When the D3200 was announced, I sold my D70 IR conversion (yesterday, in fact)with just this scenario in mind. I'd love to have more than 6MP in my IR camera, will find live view perfect for IR composing, and won't mind the feature limitations of the camera. As with previous D3xxx-series cameras, it will probably lack bracketing and a few other features, but will have all the basic stuff.

  

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#13. "RE: D3200"
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CH
          

I am afraid old 6MP sensor (D100/D70/D70s/D50/D40) is the best for IR conversion... All the newer ones are less sensitive to IR even after removing IR filter. Oh, Fuji S5 is even better.

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#14. "RE: D3200"
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Manotick, CA
          

Just saw the sample gallery posted at dpreview.com ...the high ISO on the D3200 is Crazy Good! I might just pick one up as my point and shoot!

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moizes Silver Member Nikonian since 19th May 2006Wed 25-Apr-12 01:00 PM
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#15. "RE: D3200"
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Brooklyn, US
          

Second to this. Even at 12K images look fantastic for $700 baby + cheap but not that bad lens! Dimitri.

  

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#16. "RE: D3200"
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Dyserth, GB
          

It may well be me, but the high ISO images appear to have less noise at the given settings than my D7000. I zoomed in to the image with the guy with a Fuji Xpro (DSC_0025) at ISO3200 and although a small resolution file I couldn't see much ISO noise. If this is true then role on the D400!

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moizes Silver Member Nikonian since 19th May 2006Wed 25-Apr-12 01:38 PM
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#17. "RE: D3200"
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Brooklyn, US
          

Indeed, Richard! Dimitri

  

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#18. "RE: D3200"
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Madison, US
          

I just picked one up from Best Buy to tide me over while I am waiting for my D800, I have to say it is very impressive. It is pouring rain ,going outside to get good shots wont happen but I can say the 18-55 hold up well, The 70-300 also looks good .

The shots have a odd similarity in feel to my nikon 1, kind of a grain to them at 100%

On a less than good note Nikon seems to be "cooking" the RAW file over ISO 400

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moizes Silver Member Nikonian since 19th May 2006Sat 28-Apr-12 07:39 PM
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#19. "RE: D3200"
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Sat 28-Apr-12 07:40 PM by moizes

Brooklyn, US
          

It isn't targeted to people where RAW's files is a first priority, with such the camera. Say, 5200 or 7200, whatever you call it, but not the entry level body. Dimitri.

  

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#20. "RE: D3200"
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Madison, US
          

I agree , and I will also be using this camera for JPEG.

If Nikon spent time "cooking" the RAW that would seem to be unnecessary if 90% of the use will be JPEG?

I believe that RAW should be not be doctored. It is the only way we have to measure the technical quality of our equipment objectively.

It really is a great camera, I had the 3100 and sold it since I was always unhappy with the low res LCD. I would have purchased the 3200 if that was the only upgrade.

I am certainly glad I held off from getting the Sony Nex-7.

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#21. "RE: D3200"
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Brooklyn, US
          

Sounds great, but is it possible to post anything with crop? Any 50mm lens? THX. Dimitri

  

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nurseman Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Dec 2008Sat 28-Apr-12 11:24 PM
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#22. "RE: D3200"
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Madison, US
          

I have 3 100% crops in my gallery - due to the rain i have no subject other than an old tree stump


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#23. "RE: D3200"
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Mon 30-Apr-12 02:27 PM by pjonesCET

Martinsville, US
          

The middle photo with the out of focus depth of field(deliberately), compares with one I took of a Bearded Iris the other day with the 35mm F/1.8 Wide angle lens.



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#24. "RE: D3200"
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Brooklyn, US
          

It is unable for me to say anything about the camera. The 70-300 is a good quality zoom. The 18-270 lens (Tamron?)is poor at long end, even sharpening can't safe it. At 50mm (Tamron or prime?) clearly shows decentering or water drop on the front lens, backfocusing. Even 105mm was misfocused, sorry. Everything like that could have place due to rain and wind, understandable. Dimitri

  

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#25. "RE: D3200"
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Sun 29-Apr-12 07:31 PM by nurseman

Madison, US
          

look at the data for the shots , the shots you are mentioning were shot with the nikon V1 - the ones with green grass are current for the 3200, the lens is the Nikon 50 1.4 G

I added more shots today the 200mm shot from the 70-300 is about the best as far as sharpness. All the shots from the 50mm are at infinity so I do not think it is possible to "backfocus"

I also added a good "real world " photo to show what the sharpness is and a JPEG OOC and Raw conversion color testing shot.

In short it is real hard to get a "sharp at 100%" shot handheld with the kit lens. But at 50% downsample they look good.

Best 100% crop I can get

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#26. "RE: D3200"
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US
          

>I just picked one up from Best Buy to tide me over while I am
>waiting for my D800, I have to say it is very impressive. >

Hi John:

I have a question. Do you know where the D3200 is made?

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#27. "RE: D3200"
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Madison, US
          

Thailand

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#28. "RE: D3200"
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US
          

>Thailand
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Thanks

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