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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sat 28-Jul-12 05:57 PM
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"Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"


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First I thought to put this in one of the lens forums but they are all pretty specific. I do not care if the lens is Nikkor or not. Ifigure to replace my current lenses with FX glass but reading reviews articles specs has left me completely confused. I have three current lenses the 18-55 kit lens that came with the D3200, the 55-200 and the 35 prime all DX all capable of great pics. Why then the change because at some point I will go to an fx body and the D3200 and it's three lenes will be my second body kit. I switch between these lenses a lot currently several times a day and would like to not have to do that.
So with that in mind I would like to start adding FX glass that will be of similar focal length, a bit shorter would be nice as would a bit longer, but I have no idea where to start. I would first like shorter and wider given my like of sky's and landscapes but it needs to be as clear as the my current 18-55, vr would be great, and able to withstand the elements is a must. Then a good portrait prime, pretty much set on the 105 I think it is. Then for a longer lens I am clueless. 70-200 or go straight for a longer prime? Quality is first and foremost nice sharp lenses. Obviously this will be a several year journey but I would like to have a few goals in mind somI can begin the budgeting. Thanks for any help everyone. Bertotti

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Sun 29-Jul-12 12:28 AM
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Sun 29-Jul-12 12:31 AM by blw

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What about something like the 16-35/f4 AFS VR, 50/f1.8 AFS, 85/f1.8 AFS and a 70-300/f4-5.6 AFS VR? The 16-35 is much wider than the 18-55 (the 18-55 is roughly 28-80 in FX terms, so 16 is close to twice as wide and four times the area of the 18/DX). The 50/f1.8 AFS is the direct FX equivalent of the 35/f1.8 AFS DX. Generally folks think of the 85mm focal length as "ideal" for portraiture, and the new 85/f1.8 is both moderate in price and outstanding in optics - less than half the price of the 85/f1.4 AFS and a bit more than half of the 105/f2 AF D DC. The 70-300 AFS VR is the rough equivalent of the 55-200VR.

You said quality is first and foremost - over price? Generally speaking the "Three Kings" is 14-24/f2.8 AFS, 24-70/f2.8 AFS, 70-200/f2.8 AFS VR-II - but that's about $6000 worth of glass, and you're still short anything faster than f/2.8, the FX equivalent of 200mm/DX, or a portrait prime. The ideal would add a 50/f1.4 AFS and 85/f1.4 AFS or 102/f2 AF D DC, along with a 300/f4 AFS which would add about $3200 for a total of $9200 in glass... The lower cost solution above is about $2600. That's on top of the FX body.

What does an FX body provide that your D3200 cannot do?

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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sun 29-Jul-12 01:03 AM
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Sun 29-Jul-12 01:29 AM by John Bertotti

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Thanks for the reply. An FX body allows more immediate control and bracketing. I really miss bracketing. Otherwise I am totally happy with my D3200, which is why I am looking at glass first. I'm sure at some point one of my kids will get the D3200. My son has been taking pictures with P&S camera since he was 4, 7 now and actually thinking a little about what he's doing.

If you really want to see through a kids eyes give them a P&S and am instruction on how to use it then turn them loose, amazing what they will take pictures of some horrible because of skill but some are really enlightening. I have even turned him loose with the video camera but he has since figured out how to do video with an old fuji I gave him. My daughter is right behind him. I digress.

Cost obviously is a factor, but I am paitent and will save for months or years for what I want. I will look into those lenses. I am very interested in the smallest 16-35, but on my DX body wouldn't it be closer to a 24 give or take a bit? And after some thinking I am leaning towards a longer prime, I'm liking the looks of that 80! Is it a pretty sharp lens when you need it to be?

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Sun 29-Jul-12 02:58 AM
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#3. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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Hi John,

>An FX body allows more immediate
>control and bracketing. I really miss bracketing. Otherwise I
>am totally happy with my D3200, which is why I am looking at
>glass first.

The D7000 and D300s both have bracketing and dedicated buttons that will allow you to quickly change settings on the fly without going through the menu. In addition they both have Command and Sub-Command dials and penta-prism finders.

>Cost obviously is a factor, but I am paitent and will save for
>months or years for what I want. I will look into those
>lenses. I am very interested in the smallest 16-35, but on my
>DX body wouldn't it be closer to a 24 give or take a bit?

No!
The 16-35mm on a DX body at 16mm will have the an Eqivalent Field of View as a 24mm lens on an FX body. Your 18-55mm at 18mm has the EFoV as a 27mm lens on an FX body. In other words the 16-35mm @ 16mm will provide a wider FoV on your D3200 than your 18-55mm @ 18mm.

>after some thinking I am leaning towards a longer prime, I'm
>liking the looks of that 80! Is it a pretty sharp lens when
>you need it to be?

Which 80mm?
The 85mm f/1.8G AF-S?
The 85mm f/1.4G IF AF-S?
The AF 85mm f/1.4D IF
One of the four versions of the 80-200mm f/2.8?
As you can see, you must be more specific.
That said, All of the above lenses are very sharp.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Sun 29-Jul-12 03:11 AM
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#4. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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Hi John,

Another thing to keep in mind is most FX lenses especially the fast zooms (14-35mm, 16-35mm, 24-70mm, and even more so the 80-200mm and 70-200mm lenses are heavier than your D3200 and 55-200mm combined.
This might or might not be a problem for you, but it is worth mentioning as more than a few complaints about size and weight have been written over the years.
Also keep in mind that Fast Glass is very addicting.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sun 29-Jul-12 03:30 AM
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Ah, Marty thanks, the whole crop factor thing messes with me, haven't quite wrapped my head around it yet. And the 80 I was referring to was the one Brian mentioned above. There are a lot of lenses which is where my confusion stems from, why so many, the difference can't be that great between them can it?

As far as weight, I haul around in tools a lot more then a camera bag with gear weighs even with some of these heavier bodies and lenses. One thing I really love about the D3200 is the resolution when I jump to an FX body I hope to have something close to the same or better. I am always amazed at how many good pictures I can get out of one well thought out wide angle shot, and still after some cropping, have a great looking image! Just crazy!

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Sun 29-Jul-12 05:34 AM
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Hi John,

>And the 80 I was referring to was the one Brian mentioned above. There are a
>lot of lenses which is where my confusion stems from, why so
>many, the difference can't be that great between them can
>it?

Brian referred to both the 85mm f/1.8G AF-S and 85mm f/1.4G IF AF-S.
While there is only 2/3rds of a stop difference in Aperture, there is a significant difference in size and price as well as the ultimate optical performance.
The AF-D version of the 85mm f/1.4 is often referred to as the "Cream Machine" for it's bokeh. The new AF-S version of the 85mm f/1.4 is at least as good if not better.
I have the older AF 85mm f/1.4D, and the AF 105mm f/2D DC (the D3200 doesn't support AF with either lens) and can't decide which is my favorite portrait lens.
I choose the focal length that is best suited to the specific situation.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sun 29-Jul-12 09:10 AM
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#7. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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I missed the second reference, A person really need to pay attention when reading about lenses! I will have to look at both lenses and see. Thanks for the heads up! Bertotti

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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sun 29-Jul-12 12:44 PM
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Should I assume we are talking Nikkor lenses so far? Do the third party manufactures have the glass to compete well with the Nikkor glass? I did read about the SP 70-300MM F/4-5.6 Di VC USD, does it compete well with the Nikkor equivalent, clarity sharpness speed weather sealing etc? Or should I only focus on Nikkor glass, the price for it is reasonable but makes me wonder if it is as good as the Nikkor. I should say the weather aspect is important to me because I do like winter and blizzards and thunderstorms. I guess I just like looking for shots in bad weather, something Currently can not do with the D3200. I don't think it is made for that and I don't own any sort of weather proff clothing for it. A whole different topic.

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Sun 29-Jul-12 03:09 PM by mklass

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There are some 3rd party lenses that meet or exceed the equivalent Nikkors in performance. I think many would agree that the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 are as good as or better than their Nikon equivalents. I have used all of them and retained the Sigma's. They are bigger and heavier, and not necessarily less expensive.

The Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 SP Vi VC USD is reputed to be as good as the Nikon 70-300 VR. I recently acquired one but haven't had a chance to use it much to see for myself.

I would also take a close look at the non-Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 lenses with some version of stabilization. I'm not sure they are as great as the 70-200 f/2.8 Nikkor, but if there is a large enough price difference, it might be an acceptable trade off between excellent and great. If you don't need VR, there are more 3rd party alternatives.

Once you get into the macro lens realm, I think they are all good.

Going to a different DX body could be you best bet, if you want to save a bundle. If you're serious about bracketing, the D300s offers more than the D7000, but the D7000 produces wonderful images with more dynamic range. Or just wait for the D300s replacement.

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#11. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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Hi John,

When comparing lenses, Nikkor to third party or third party to third party you must compare equivalent lenses. There are some third party lenses that are equal or superior to the Nikkor equivalent. Most of the MF Zeiss lenses for example. I would also consider the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX HSM before the Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 AF-S.
If you check prices you will find the above Sigma and the Zeiss lenses to be priced significantly higher than the equivalent Nikkor. As a general rule, there is no free lunch so you get what you pay for.
I have not compared the Tamron to the Nikkor 70-300mm AF-S though I suspect the Nikkor will outperform it as the Nikkor 70-200mm out performs the Sigma and Tamron alternatives. The issue becomes is the additional performance worth the additional cost. Another thing to consider is Nikkor lenses hold their value much better than most third party alternatives.

The only truly weatherproof lenses were those made for the Nikonos underwater cameras and they won't work on Nikon DSLR's. While weather sealed bodies and lenses are available no manufacturer will provide warranty coverage for water damage.
Remember it only takes one drop of water in the wrong place to ruin your day and put a strain on your wallet. While I have used both weather proof and non-weatherproof bodies in bad weather without issues, I use and recommend using a quality rain cover like one of the Think Tank Hydrophobia models or one of the Aqua Tech models.
Call it Cheap Insurance.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

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Marty

  

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John Bertotti Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jul 2012Sun 29-Jul-12 08:38 PM
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#12. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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Sun 29-Jul-12 08:42 PM by John Bertotti

Garretson, US
          

I am not ruling out a different body at some point that offers more control and bracketing but for the time being the d3200 is working great! As I add better or different lenses I would like to stick with FX because if I do jump to an FX, the lenses will still work without going to a crop mode, trying to plan ahead a bit. As for which manufacture, I guess I will research some more. Thanks everyone! Bertotti

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Sun 29-Jul-12 08:50 PM by John Bertotti

Garretson, US
          

A little off the original topic but is there anything I need to know before picking a hydrophobia cover? I'm thinking with winter just around the corner here I should look into this soon. Will a cover work with a built in or hotshoe flash? I will have a 910 shortly.
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Just for grins I looked at the Zeiss site. Man that distagon T*2.8/15 is a dream! And mighty expensive but I could maybe give up on all e rest for it but it only has 110 degree filed of view on an FX body. How much would that decrease on a DX body? Would it auto focus or are they all manual? I see the one f## type does have CPU controls. But around 3k holy cow! That is expensive.

You know this is just as bad as any musical gear acquisition syndrome I ever had. doh!
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The Zeiss lenses are manual. The chip is mainly there to report setting. Ack to the camera and for EXIF purposes.

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#16. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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> it only has 110 degree filed of view on an FX body.

"only" 110 degrees??? For those who haven't worked with fisheyes, 110 degree is, like, ridiculously wide... almost unmanageably wide. Seriously, 110 degrees is one of the widest lenses available. Ultra-wide isn't about "get more stuff into the frame." It's mostly about distorting perspective. And 15mm on FX definitely does that. It's not quite the focal length champion (the Nikkor 14-24 and Sigma 12-24 are both wider), but 15 is really, really wide on FX. Once you get past about 18mm or so on FX, you really need to adopt a different compositional strategy - it's that different.

> How much would that decrease on a DX body?

It'll be somewhat wider than your 18-55 - 15 is about 15% wider by angle. Ie noticeably, but not radically.

> You know this is just as bad as any musical gear acquisition syndrome I ever had. doh!

LOL... but it's not as bad as boats, airplanes or race cars!

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"LOL... but it's not as bad as boats, airplanes or race cars!"
That's a whole new level I'm not ready to play in!

My, only 110 degree, remark was tongue in cheek. I was curious how much it changed going to DX though. Thanks! I would love to try a fish eye sometime though. Also thinking on whether committing to DX or FX is my best route. I won't change cameras for several years, at least that's my thoughts now, so I have plenty of time to ponder goals and needs balanced with a big dose of desire. You know how that goes!

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#20. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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> I would love to try a fish eye sometime though.

Rent one, they're not expensive. For example, you can rent either the Nikkor 10.5/f2.8 DX or the Sigma 10/f2.8 HSM DX for about $40 for a week at lensrentals.com.

> Also thinking on whether committing to DX or FX is my best route. I won't change cameras for several years

I wouldn't worry too awfully much about it. Despite what you read, the formats are mostly equivalent. Yes there's a fairly big gap in absolute size - 24mp vs 36mp, but the functional difference is narrowing not growing. Sure 12mp is a lot of difference, but really, is 24mp "too small?" For a non-professional, it's hard to see how 24mp is all that limiting. A pro may have to compete against someone else with 36mp, but amateurs don't. And 24mp is enough to make a gallery-quality 40x60" print... how many of us really need 36mp? It'll be 50+ or 60+ in a couple of years. Sure, there's a light gathering difference too. Today DX is limited to about ISO 6400, and FX can go to 12800 at least. In another generation, say it only goes up by one more stop each - will it really be a limiting factor to shoot at "only" 12800? Boosted speeds (eg Hi-2 or Hi-3) on FX will likely be 204,000 by then.

Pretty much anything else can be done on either format, and probably is now if not by then. Like bracketing, for example. Almost every DX body (in addition to every FX body) has bracketing. All three of my DX bodies have it. It's only removed from the entry point to help give some differentiation to get people to move up the family.

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#21. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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Wed 01-Aug-12 12:34 AM by John Bertotti

Garretson, US
          

Thanks for the info, hope your dried out now. I see a bag as an important addition now, and some monitor calibration capabilities. But I do see the gap narrowing as well. I used to try shooting at night through a meda telescope, the D700 was a dream for many years then came the D800. This is we're desire and not need kick in, but if there was a 24 Megapixel D7000 I would probably be all over it, probably who knows how there brain will work in a couple years, desires, needs, goals all change sometimes in short order.

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#23. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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I found this useful table in the "Master your Lenses" forum, it compares different HFoV depending on focal length and sensor size, it really helped me to get my head around the concept.

"Field of View Values for Common Focal Lengths"

  

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> is there anything I need to know before picking a hydrophobia cover?

You should probably post this over in the bags forum, but a couple of things to consider:

- only a few rain covers can accommodate a flash.
- you really want one that is well engineered, because shooting effectively in the rain and keeping the gear dry is a bit like riding a bicycle in a telephone booth. I've tried a fair number of them by now and to me the only two that are worth using in heavy rain or snow are the ThinkTank Hydrophobias (there are several) and, to a lesser degree but still recommended, AquaTech.
- You need to pick general size, too. They have them for kinda normal lenses, and a whole different class for big lenses. ThinkTank at least has a separate model for normalish lenses with a flash.
- You will likely find that shooting flash in the rain is an interesting experience. Flash freezes motion, especially things like water. You probably don't get the effect you're expecting.
- I don't know any of them that work with a built-in flash, but I haven't tried them all.

I definitely think that a rain cover is a zillion times better than worrying about "weather sealed" lenses and cameras. Unless they're warrantied to underwater depth, they're not really sealed. I would rather use my D100 in a rain cover than a D3 without one. (Of course, it's the D3 that usually goes inside...)

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Mon 30-Jul-12 02:35 AM
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#18. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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> Should I assume we are talking Nikkor lenses so far?

Above I referred only to Nikon glass, but that's because I was trying not to make things too complicated all at once. The third parties make some fully competitive lenses, sometimes interesting less expensive, sometimes more.

> Do the third party manufactures have the glass to compete well with the Nikkor glass?

This is an extremely controversial subject, and much has been written about it. Try starting with this thread.

> the weather aspect is important to me because I do like winter and blizzards and thunderstorms.

The problem with this is that nobody warranties anything against water damage, so as someone else put it so succinctly, they're weatherproof - until they're not. Yes some of the newer stuff has seals or gaskets, but if Nikon opens up a lens or camera and finds water damage, it's out of warranty, period. No matter what camera or lens it is. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have the seals and gaskets than not, but it isn't the big deal that people seem to think it is.

For one thing, I surveyed my gear and discovered that I now have a whopping two lenses and zero bodies that are even claimed to be sealed. My profile will show the details, but suffice to say that I have mostly pro level gear. Stuff like my 400/f2.8 AFS is not claimed to be sealed, does not have a gasket on the lens mount, and definitely would be crossed off your list as it is set up now. Other lenses like the pro 28-70/f2.8 AFS, 17-35/f2.8 AFS, the "journalist standard" 35-70/f2.8 AFD, all of the current Micro-Nikkors, the DC lenses, etc - NONE of those have seals, gaskets or are "weather proof." It's only the very latest releases - 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 VR-II, etc that have that. But ya know... there sure are a lot of pictures of rain forests, searing deserts, war zones, pictures in the snow from the Frozen Tundra in Green Bay. And a lot of those were taken with Nikon gear before they released the latest generation of lenses.

And anyway, the better path is a rain cover. Remember that 400/f2.8? Last spring I shot a bike race. I did it with a D3 and the 400/f2.8, and a D2x with 80-200/f2.8 AFS, also unsealed. They were both in rain covers, and about the only water that got on the gear got into the covers on my hands. Did I mention that it was raining an inch per hour? I personally was soaked to the skin, and my toes looked like prunes. But the gear was dry and I did get the shots. I was the only photographer silly enough to do it, so I got ALL the sales.

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WD4MLA Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002Sun 29-Jul-12 02:14 PM
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#9. "RE: Dx to fx equivalent or better lenes"
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John,

>An FX body allows more immediate control and bracketing. I really miss bracketing. Otherwise I am totally happy with my D3200, which is why I am looking at glass first.

You did not respond to Marty's answer that a D7000 or D300 would give you control and bracketing. If this is all you are hoping to gain by changing to FX, you could save a bundle of money by selecting one of the cameras in his suggestion.

A 16-85VR & 70-300VR is a great combo on a D7000.

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I am anticipating the release of the 7100, dead curious to what it will have.

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