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Bela614 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Dec 2004Thu 11-Jul-13 11:06 AM
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"HDR Photography"


Bellingham, US
          

Hello,
I have Photoshop CS4 and just discovered trhe HDR feature. How do you feel Photoshop HDR compares with other HDR processing software.
Thanks in advance,
Bill

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migs Basic MemberThu 11-Jul-13 12:04 PM
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Warrington, GB
          

Hi Bill

Although Adobe HDR capability has improved in CS6, in CS4 it was still a new feature and, as a consequence, delivers less than stellar results.

I know buying specialist software adds cost to an already pretty expensive hobby or business, but it's fairly minimal in the wider scheme of things and usually delivers far superior results.

Personally, I use Photomatix, and I struggle to replicate its results using CS6 without much more work.

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Bela614 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Dec 2004Thu 11-Jul-13 12:14 PM
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#2. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Bellingham, US
          

Thanks for the reply Paul. I have been checking out Photomatics and like the results. I am using their free trial version. Do you recommend the regular version or the pro version. I do not consider myself anywhere near a pro photographer.
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migs Basic MemberThu 11-Jul-13 12:29 PM
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Tue 16-Jul-13 12:02 AM by jrp

Warrington, GB
          

I use the Pro version, for a couple of reasons. The main one is just that you have more overall control and, unless you have a specific reason for doing so, often need never go into PS to finish the image off with sharpening and other functions that the Essentials version doesn't have.

Because I've never used Essentials, I can't say what else I may find it lacks. The feature comparison which, to be honest, HDRSoft don't make easy to find is here -

Photomatix Features

I do think the extra $60 is worth it, if you can stretch to it.

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Bela614 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Dec 2004Thu 11-Jul-13 12:37 PM
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#4. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Bellingham, US
          

Thanks Paul,
I think I will write Photomatics and see if I can buy the essentials version and then update it at a later date if I choose.
Thank you for your quick reply.
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MauiKane Gold Member Nikonian since 31st Mar 2013Thu 11-Jul-13 12:47 PM
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#5. "RE: HDR Photography"
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I use both Photomatix Pro and Nik Software's HDR Efex Pro. Like them both (both offer free trial period). I tend to like making HDR images look very natural (versus surreal) and sometimes I have better luck in that using HDR Efex Pro, but Photomatix Pro produces nice images and I may do an HDR with both software packages to see which one I like best.
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migs Basic MemberThu 11-Jul-13 02:16 PM
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#6. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Warrington, GB
          

@Bill
No problem, glad to try and help.

@ Tom
Photomatix, at least to my eye, used to apply stronger defaults than the current version does, which led to me trying other software for a while, but I soon came back. I do use HDR Efex occasionally, and am (or was, who knows what the future brings with Google at the helm?) a fan of Nik products generally, but I just don't feel as comfortable with it as I do with Photomatix.

For me, it's repaid the $99 many times over

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Wingman Silver Member Awarded for sharing his excellent work and continued contribution to the forums, most notably at the Aviation forum. Nikonian since 02nd Dec 2002Thu 11-Jul-13 05:05 PM
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#7. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Kimberley, CA
          

Another less well known software alternative is Oloneo Photoengine. I need to do a lot of HDRs for an ongoing project, and have come to value Oloneo for its speed -- it seems to do its thing much faster than the alternatives I've tried. The results are very natural looking (when that's what I want) and the interface pretty intuitive and easy to learn. Most of all, though, I do value the speed of processing -- it can be pretty agonizing to wait for software to complete a conversion knowing that I have to do ten more today...

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M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005Sat 13-Jul-13 03:55 AM
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#8. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Sat 13-Jul-13 04:03 AM by M_Jackson

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You might want to give the HDR software in PS another look, especially in the new CC version.

From what I am seeing, the PS version of the merging of 3 or more images is better, especially if there is any movement. You also get to pick from the set of images and pick the one that works the best of removing the blurs.

One of the new options in PS is to generate a 32 bit file that can be edited with ACR, and better yet, you can run it as a Smart Object once it gets into PS. In other words, you get a huge file with all the dynamic range built into it, then you get all of the power of the ACR adjustments and the ability to continue editing it in ACR. Going this route, you can swing the highlights and the shadows sliders in huge amounts because of all of the range, and you can adjust the exposure much more than on a normal single image. It is possible to get a final image that doesn't have all of the tell-tale, artificial look of some of the HDR software.

If you are going for the heavy handed HDR look, you still have the option to save it out as an OpenEXR file (32 bit) and open it into Photomatix, or go directly to the Nik HDR Efex plugin. The EXR file is also added to your LR library if you are using it and starting there.

The original smart object can be flattened in PS and converted to 16 bit and you still have three or four options for how the final images are tone mapped.

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JimKing Registered since 10th May 2013Mon 15-Jul-13 03:26 PM
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#9. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Salisbury, US
          

Since no one has mentioned it, I hope I'm not wrong, but I believe only the Pro version of Photomatix supports RAW files.

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Bela614 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Dec 2004Mon 15-Jul-13 04:32 PM
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#10. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Bellingham, US
          

Thank you all for your help. It is really appreciated. I plan to start taking more pictures because of HDR imaging. I take alot of outdoor shots and the whites are constantly getting blown out to the point I was getting discouraged. HDR changes all that.
Thanks again.
Bill

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#11. "RE: HDR Photography"
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Tue 16-Jul-13 12:05 AM by jrp

San Pedro Garza García, MX
          

Jim,
You are correct. One can upload NEFs directly into Photomatix.
However, what I have been finding out recently is that it is always best to upload white balance corrected tiffs for better results.

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