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SWLD Registered since 05th Mar 2008Fri 26-Dec-08 12:45 AM
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"D700 - Long Exposure Noise Reduction"
Fri 26-Dec-08 01:31 AM by SWLD

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How much is sharpness affected by having Long Exposure NR switched on? (The D700's default is off).

Apart from sharpness (and slower in-camera processing) has anyone found any other disadvantages to leaving it on?

Simon

  

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Nikonian since 05th May 2002Fri 26-Dec-08 02:07 AM
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#1. "RE: D700 - Long Exposure Noise Reduction"
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I've never seen sharpness affected by the long exposure NR, but it's purpose is to eliminate the noise you'll see in extremely long exposures. I wouldn't leave it on in general due to the delays it causes (it doubles the time for an exposure), but it's extremely worthwhile to have it on for long exposures.

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SoCalMan Registered since 27th Jun 2006Fri 26-Dec-08 02:46 AM
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No effect on sharpness whatsoever. It merely subtracts out black sensor noise. The real disadvantage is that it doubles the exposure black out time - thus a 20 second exposure becomes a 40 sec exposure.

  

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SWLD Registered since 05th Mar 2008Fri 26-Dec-08 09:14 AM
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Fri 26-Dec-08 09:45 AM by SWLD

GB
          

Thanks for the info chaps.

I've never tried Long Exposure NR and thought it might have some sort of sharpness-reducing effect - similar to using post production Noise Reduction in NX2 (p205 of NX2 manual).

Here's a D700 shot at 30 secs, 200ISO, re-sized to 1600x1065. I'm wondering how much Long Exposure NR would have helped here, especially in the sky areas.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/simonwilding/_NKN2518rs1600.jpg




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That doesn't look like it's affected by amp noise, so probably no effect at all. What Long Exp NR does is to eliminate the pinkish blobs that sometimes seem to intrude on the edges of frames with long exposures. It's caused by thermal buildup on electronic components near the sensor, so the various cameras have different liabilities in this regard. (Presumably also the various sensors affect this too.)

The way it works is to take your exposure, then leave the shutter closed and captures another one that should be all blank. If amp noise is affecting the sensor, the camera can safely conclude that anything in the blank exposure should not be, and it subtracts that from your exposure before it saves it to flash memory.

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SWLD Registered since 05th Mar 2008Fri 26-Dec-08 05:48 PM
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#5. "RE: D700 - Long Exposure Noise Reduction"
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GB
          

Thanks for the info Brian.

Simon

  

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FrankSRGB Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Aug 2009Sun 13-May-12 05:37 PM
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#6. "RE: D700 - Long Exposure Noise Reduction"
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I know this is an old thread but am hoping someone here has explored the differences between Long Exposure NR and Capture NX2's new Astro NR. If so, could you please look at this thread in the Digital Processing forum and share your knowledge?

Astro NR in CNX versus Long Exposure NR in-camera
http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=133&topic_id=8806&mesg_id=8806&page=

Regards,
Frank

  

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