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DinoCardelli Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Oct 2010Thu 31-Jan-13 06:05 PM
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"Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"


Plantation, US
          

I own a D7K and a less than one year old D700 that I love....

I posted my reasons for not going D600 or D800...I don't think I'll take better pics for the $$ with a D800...too many pixels...my MAC will go into heart failure...I'm managing 3 different backup drives now...

Is anyone crazy like me, thinking in the next year or so to buy a D700 and just hoard it for the next 5-7 years? Or is this nuts...

I'm pretty confident Nikon will support it for at least another 10 years? So, would it make sense to find a Cherry and grab it used...or just buy a new one and keep in the event the D700 goes completely off line in the retail environment ????

Thoughts?


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JosephK Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006Thu 31-Jan-13 07:40 PM
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#1. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Thu 31-Jan-13 07:41 PM by JosephK

Seattle, WA, US
          

Yes, I think you would be crazy.

While the D700 is a great camera, technology marches on. To be shooting with the same camera five years from now would be sad. Not necessarily bad, but sad. But then I shot my D200 for six years from 2007 to 2011 and I still have it....

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Luke_Miller Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2006Thu 31-Jan-13 09:47 PM
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Newer is better in terms of the technology and performance. So if you need better high ISO performance or more pixels than your D700 then move to the D600 or D800. But if your D700 allows you to take the images you want, then there is little reason to upgrade. My experience (since starting back in the olden days with the D1) is that generally the new bodies expand the envelop of performance over the previous bodies. But where that performance overlaps with the previous model there is little to no noticeable improvement.

Quick example - I have a small basement studio and my D2x, D3, and now D4 have been used there. When using my monolights and at base ISOs there is absolutely no advantage in using the newer bodies. So if your D700 does everything you need, why change it out?

Of course if you do upgrade you may find that the performance improvements in the newer body leads you to new areas of interest. When I had my D2hs and D2x there were venues I did not shoot in as the camera's usuable high ISO performance (1600 max) did not permit it. I unconsciously tailored my shooting to match the capabilities of my equipment. I now find that I can't live without my D4's ISO 12800 performance (which is better than 6400 on my D700).

So I guess my answer to your question "Am I crazy?" is the one my lawyer often gives me "It depends"

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JPJ Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2009Thu 31-Jan-13 10:59 PM
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Hard to predict what the future holds, but if you already have a d700 I would just lovingly use that. Hey, if cared for you could simply replace the shutter down the road and shoot that things for many, many years to come, and is much cheaper than holding onto a depreciating body waiting for your current d700 to die.

If you didn't have a d7k I would even consider it as a backup body, but my view is your set for now and that money is better invested elsewhere.

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ZoneV Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2005Fri 01-Feb-13 12:16 AM
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Fri 01-Feb-13 12:17 AM by ZoneV

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There is another member on here who did this with some older Nikon digital bodies in the past. He is semi-pro, and has a second set of bodies bought literally as backup, but never used. The point is, the originals are still going strong, even with all the use, and he has not needed to use the second set. Unless you are a collector, it makes little sense. Camera bodies can generally be repaired if needed.

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Fri 01-Feb-13 03:10 AM by gheck58

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It really depends on if you are making your living as a photographer. If you are then it's going to pretty hard to stay up with your competition with a 7 to 10 year old technology camera. If not then I believe the D700 will still take great images 5 to 10 years from now. However I doubt Nikon will have many replacement parts.

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Fri 01-Feb-13 05:23 AM
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#6. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Hi Dino,

Unless you plan on shooting with both bodies simultaniously it doesn't make much sense.
As stated above, every new genreation of bodies has significantly outperformend the previous genration. In 5-7 years the D700 will be at least two and likely three or more genreations old.
In addition, the price of camera bodies seems to drop every time a new generation of bodies is introduced.
It would be more cost effective to have the shutter on your current D700 replaced if and when it fails.
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DinoCardelli Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Oct 2010Fri 01-Feb-13 07:57 AM
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Fri 01-Feb-13 07:58 AM by DinoCardelli

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--------It would be more cost effective to have the shutter on your current D700 replaced if and when it fails.-------


Good point....I didn't think abou that one !!!

I guess my simple logic is there is nothing wrong with this camera...the D800 = $$$ and for me..too many pixels and image size...

D4 = max $$$$

Let's see what happens...but, I really like the hand set up on the D700 (buttons on top, etc.)...

But, just keeping it fixed will most likely be the most cost effective solution...

The D7K is a great camera and the big brother D600 = similiar set up...just love the feel fo the D700 with the MD attachment...

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espeto68 Gold Member Nikonian since 29th Aug 2010Fri 01-Feb-13 12:52 PM
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#8. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Hi Dino,

I came from a D90 with some DX lenses and wanted to upgrade to FX. So, after the D800 and, later, the D600 anouncements, i decided to go for an light used D700. The reasons were: D800 - too many pixels, too huge files, slow FPS and quite expensive (though i was able to get it); D600 - not so good built, quite small for my big hands, 39 AF points, button layout and the high ISO capability (good but not enought).
My current setup is a D700 and a D90 when i want to go light. Started investing in FX lenses only and kept the excelent 16-85 DX and the 35 1.8 DX, for my Dx setup.
I'm one of those that are planning to shoot with these setup for the next 5-10 years. The number of pixels is more than enough for me, and the results i get are quite sactisfying as well. Thinking like that, i have ZERO interest in the new D800/D600.


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BR Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Nov 2006Sat 02-Feb-13 08:44 PM
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Well if you are crazy then I am also as I did give this some fleeting consideration after recently acquiring a low shutter count D700 and seeing the improvement over my D200. I considered replacing the D200 with another D700 thus having a backup with the advantage of the same layout and controls and, as you say, getting a hold of another one of these gems for a good price while some pristine ones are still available.

But after not too much thought, I figured having the D700 and D200 combination is more useful to me for now. And they have similar layouts, share the same battery and CF cards.

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I did more than consider buying a backup D700 - I bought one. My first one has about 12K on the shutter, so I really didn't need a backup. However, I occasionally shoot weddings, portraits, sports, etc., so when I found a mint, used D700 with 4500 clicks, I jumped on it. For me, it was simple: there's nothing that I need a camera to do that it can't do.

I don't want video. I don't want the extra megapixels. I want 8 FPS (with a grip) for shooting sports. I want to keep using my CF cards. I want the AF-On button.

Now I don't have to learn a new set of controls or get used to the feel of a new body. I suspect I've got the camera setup that I'll be using for years.

I'm happy.

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TonyJ Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Sep 2004Wed 06-Feb-13 03:30 PM
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They will always be a day away via UPS and the price will get better and better. Don't stick one in a closet, let the camera stores take care of it until you need it...

I just saw a used D200 for $200. Hard to believe it was someones dream camera just a few short years ago. Not really, it's a great camera if it's being used...

Invest money in a lens, and it will probably hold its value much better and will expand your potential.

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jjmirenzi Silver Member Nikonian since 31st May 2012Wed 06-Feb-13 09:28 PM
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#12. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Dupont, US
          

I have quit subscribing to and reading all the photography magazines. To me all they are is bully pulpits for the camera and equipment manufacturers touting the next new and wonderful this or that. In 4 years I went from the d80 to the d200 to the d300 and now the D700. I shoot weddings so the d700 is my go to camera; the d300 is my backup and the d200 I have converted to IR.. I sold the D80.
I do not need or want video. I get all the resolution and iso performance in the d700. It definitely is a way better camera for weddings than the d200 or 300 for iso performance and cropping. I had a Pentax SP500 film camera for 20 years before I went digital. So as long as the d700 works i will keep it and also replace the shutter whem the time comes.

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#13. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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I just bought a gently used D700, and I really like it. But I wouldn't buy another. These are fairly well put together cameras. But as someone else pointed out, in ten years, you'll probably want whatever really slick new model is on offer at the time. A D900 or something. Or a gently used D800.

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DinoCardelli Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Oct 2010Wed 20-Feb-13 10:02 AM
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Wed 20-Feb-13 10:10 AM by DinoCardelli

Plantation, US
          

UPDATE:

THANKS FOR ALL THE COMMENTS....

Had my sensors cleaned while here in Atlanta on business at Camera Services in North Atlanta, GA....His company is a NIKON authorized repair center...for any of you who are in the area...or even want to send in work......Mr. Park is a 30 year veteran of fixing Nikons....great guy...loves to talk and teach.

I asked him what the "average" shutter life of a D700 he's seen...and 100K + was the well within range before a replacement to be considered...

I then asked him his opinion of the camera from a reliability and service....

His words (spoken in heavy Korean accent) - Very Strong - you will keep, long, long time !!!

He said, just bring in every few months for sensor cleaning, don't drop, and when the time comes, replacement of shutter...very easy....no problem...just put in another.


BTW, I am pretty rough on the equipment as it goes with me for fishing, beach shoots, etc...

My sensors were really dirty....this is my second cleaning since last year and I did not have any oil or issues....you need to take the time to be sure all your camera's sensors (I did my D7k and D700 for $80)...

Now, just another issue...as I mentioned to Mr. Park I live in FLL.....and asked about self cleaning using kits for sensors....his comment was.....don't do it !!! Not worth the problems if you damage the sensor....I know there are alot of people that do it...and maybe i'm a bit simplistic in my thinking...but, I tend to agree with Mr Park...he mentioned, "My tech's do this all day long with the right equipment. If there is a problem, the sensor can be potentially damaged"....for me, I'll probably stick with leaving it to an authorized service center.....

Looks like me and my D700 will be around for a while

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#15. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Alberta, CA
          

Good thread. I just wanted to mention, don't forget to consider a used D3S when the time comes. They are already a great value in the $3xxx price range.

I'm thinking D3S is going to be unique in the used camera market that will hold its value fairly well.

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TonyJ Silver Member Nikonian since 14th Sep 2004Thu 21-Feb-13 11:51 AM
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#16. "RE: Am I Crazy To Consider Buying Another D700 For The Future ???"
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Boulder, US
          

Yes, the D3s seems to be holding it's value pretty well, dang it... lol I want one! It's tough now with the products out there. With the D800 at $2.5K refurbished, the price is still probably high on the D3s and certainly on the D3. I've seen beater D700s in the 1200 range and nice ones for 1500...

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