Go to a  "printer friendly" view of this message which allow an easy print Printer-friendly copy Go to the page which allows you to send this topic link and a message to a friend Email this topic to a friend
Forums Lobby GET TO KNOW YOUR CAMERA & MASTER IT Nikon D700 topic #44583
View in linear mode

Subject: "Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700" Previous topic | Next topic
Fogtripper Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Jul 2004Tue 06-Nov-12 12:37 AM
131 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
"Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700"


US
          

OK, I am going bonkers here.I have a handful of manual lenses. I love them. Small list: 28mm 1:2.8, 50mm 1:1.8, and my absolute favorite the 85mm 1.4. All are AiS Nikkor. They mount correctly, meter correctly, and have little if any wiggle whatsoever.

I have been frustrated of late trying to figure out why I cannot get sharp focus. This evening I was treated to 2 young mule deer bucks, rattling antlers for dominance. I had only time to mount the 85mm, and from about 50 yards away I began snapping. As it was dusk I had the ISO at 400 and the aperture at f4. Had plenty of speed, and it was bright enough that I could easily manual focus. I did not worry all that much about DoF due to the distance.

So I did an image dump into my RAW folder afterward, and began to look them all over. All 80+ of them. The same issue that plagued me a few days ago reared it's head once again: The point that I focused on was out of focus, yet objects in the distance were clear. It was not even CLOSE to the distance I visually thought was in focus.

The 28mm gave me the same issue a few days ago, when shooting at a rifle a mere 3 feet away. Body was firmly mounted in the ballhead/tripod. Was using timed release and shutter delay. Same thing as today: the rifle was noticeably out of focus when I opened up the RAWs, yet it was visually in focus when taking the photos.

Is this a known issue with some D700 bodies? I am going to do a search for local Nikon reps, but I am kind of far out from SLC.

Will have to clamp this sucker down and run some test shots utilizing the distance scale and focus indicators, which I rarely ever do when actively shooting.



Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic

Drbee Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Aug 2004Tue 06-Nov-12 01:14 AM
5370 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#1. "RE: Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

Will you please post a sample image?

I don't know of any known D700 problems. I use the following AIS lenses on my D700 with pretty good success, 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2, 35mm f/2, 50mm f/1.2, 70-150mm f/3.5. The faster lenses work out the best for on-screen focusing, the 28mm f/2 is my favorite. I also use the green-dot, but I do have to be very careful as the green-dot in-focus indicators can give some puzzling results. I struggled over the word "puzzling" in the previous sentence, the results are not "false" or "false-positive" or "incorrect" it's just the the dot-indicator can be difficult to get a "lock". I think that's a measure of just how much jiggle we add to the situation when moving the focus ring.

I've had batches of images where I would swear that they were in-focus at capture time, but later review show a consistent error. In all cases where I've taken the time to deconvolute the results, it's pretty clear that it's my error - typically picking the wrong or confusing (to the camera) focusing target.

I always use the center AF spot for manual focus. I also run my shutter speed up a bit because I find that I hold the camera more rigidly when I don't have to have one hand more or less free to turn the focus ring. If I'm using the screen over the green-dot, then I pick a clear area between the AF brackets to attain focus.

I can't close focus my 50mm f/1.2 at f/1.2 on real world targets without using Live-View.

Over the years, I've found many ways to do it wrong and it always seems to show up on targets where I really want the results. I wonder some times if adrenaline play a factor - causing me to hurry, shake, use faulty judgment, etc.

Maybe we could tell more from a sample image.

Best Regards,

Roger
It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Fogtripper Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Jul 2004Tue 06-Nov-12 02:03 AM
131 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#2. "RE: Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700"
In response to Reply # 1
Tue 06-Nov-12 02:04 AM by Fogtripper

US
          

Here's a quick sample. It was shot in RAW, horizontal orientation, cropped in photoshop to show the various distances. I was focusing on the buck. This is pixel/pixel and not downsized (unless photobucket does so)

85mm at F4
Granted, I could have done a lot better on a tripod (these were all handheld, but braced up against a wall), but still, the focus plane looks way off.


Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Drbee Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Aug 2004Tue 06-Nov-12 02:33 AM
5370 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#3. "RE: Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700"
In response to Reply # 2


US
          

Thanks for posting the image. It's nice to have a clear view of the circumstance. The image I have access to is very small, about 75Kb, and it is difficult with that size to see the focus plane.

I imagine this was not an easy image to focus. The contrast levels are uniformly low, perhaps the best target is the buck's white tail. I tried applying some aggressive sharpening in PS but still couldn't get a handle on the focus plane. It looks like the focus is beyond the buck but the doe between the buck and the white fence doesn't look crisp either, perhaps it's the ears that are throwing me off. Just not enough detail in the posted image.

Roger
It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Fogtripper Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Jul 2004Tue 06-Nov-12 01:50 PM
131 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#4. "RE: Manual lenses having focus issues on my D700"
In response to Reply # 3


US
          

The thing is, it has got to widely off from the buck, considering how out of focus the berm at the bottom is, compared to the treeline and hillside in the distance. Now granted, f4 on the 85mm gives a narrow DoF, but it appears that the distant objects are more in focus than where I was visually seeing the viewable DoF of the lens while shooting. It's as if to a certain distance, the DoF at f4 was working, and then suddenly the "other side" of the DoF simply ceased to follow the laws of physics. That is of course on top of the fact that the viewable focus plane ended up being nowhere near where the camera translated it into.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Forums Lobby GET TO KNOW YOUR CAMERA & MASTER IT Nikon D700 topic #44583 Previous topic | Next topic


Take the Nikonians Tour and learn more about being a Nikonian Wiki /FAQ /Help Listen to our MP3 photography radio channels Find anything on Nikon and imaging technology - fast!

Copyright © Nikonians 2000, 2013
All Rights Reserved

Nikonians®, NikoScope® and NikoniansAcademy™ are trademarks owned by Nikonians.org.
Nikon®, Nikonos® and Nikkor® are registered trademarks of Nikon Corporation.