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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberTue 29-Jul-08 03:53 PM
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"D700 First Low Light Pics"


Auburn, US
          

Thought I would test the D700 out with something a little different, it performed quite well and the results looked pretty good to me. It was not a true low light test since I shot these at ISO-200 but these were the first images I shot with the D700.

First is full frame uncropped at 1000px and the second is a 100% crop of where the lightning hit the ground. No sharpening was done other than the NEF settings as shot.

Exposure - 6.2s
Aperture - f/8.0
ISO-200
Focal Length - 27mm
Lens - 24-70mm f/2.8
Whitebalance - auto (moved to cloudy post procs)
Picture Control - vivid








The 100% crop did loose a little bit in the jpg to post it under the 150k here but it is pretty close to the original.

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dgillilan Silver Member Nikonian since 15th May 2006Wed 30-Jul-08 01:36 AM
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#1. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Williamsburg, US
          


Very nice shots, you captured the strikes very well,
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purple6816 Registered since 21st Dec 2007Mon 18-Aug-08 02:19 AM
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#2. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Great PICs

I took some pictures last night and they did not come out as nice as yours. What settings do you recommend? Yours seem to work for you what are the best settings to use in general. I was shooting at 0.6 at 3.2 iso 800. I got several shots but wonder what would make them better.











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purple6816 Registered since 21st Dec 2007Mon 18-Aug-08 04:43 AM
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#3. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Ok Found a post in another forum that has a good site give me some info.

http://www.weatherscapes.com/techniques.php?cat=lightning&page=lightning

Seems I need to go down in ISO and up in Fstops. 200 and F4-F5.6 or so.

I will try that.

  

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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberMon 18-Aug-08 11:17 AM
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#4. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Auburn, US
          

The biggest key to getting some good lightening shots (besides being in a safe place) is a tripod and a shutter release. Your last shot there looks pretty good, you must have been in a nice lightening storm to get that many frames, good job. I think I probably took 70-100 frames before I captured just one, like the one shown above (and only two for the night).

I typically put my camera on the "bulb" setting, and using a shutter release, open the shutter until a lightening strike fills the frame (shutter on the image of mine above was about 6 seconds). If the lightening is really flying around I might capture more than one strike in one frame.

You want to be careful not to overexpose the frame and once you have a strike clearly in the frame it will tend to blow out everything around it, which is why I also use a low ISO (around ISO-200) and a smaller aperture like f/8 - f/16.

Obviously to use a bulb/shutter release setting you will need a tripod to keep the image sharp. I also use the white balance on "auto" but that is never correct and I adjust the white balance post processing.

It is actually one of the easier things to capture, you just sit there and press the shutter until something exciting happens, you just don't want to be to close to the action.

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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Mon 18-Aug-08 10:56 PM
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#5. "RE: D70 long exposition"
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Just for fun: D70, 70-300 VR @ 80mm, ISO 1600, f/5.6, 30 sec., High ISO & Long Exposure NR off, jpeg fine, white balance auto, no post processing except re-sizing & "Save for web" with Photoshop CS3 to compress under 150 kb.

Same as the OP: first is full frame uncropped at 1000px and the second is a 100% crop:




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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberTue 19-Aug-08 02:06 AM
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#8. "RE: D70 long exposition"
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BTW... an incredible shot, even at the 100% crop it looks good.

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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Mon 18-Aug-08 11:44 PM
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#6. "RE: D700 Long Exposure NR?"
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Scott, was your "Long Exposure NR" turned on (manual page 277)? There is a trade-off between noise & sharpness.

  

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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberTue 19-Aug-08 02:05 AM
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#7. "RE: D700 Long Exposure NR?"
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I am almost positive it was turned off (or on automatic, which means it wouldn't have engaged), but the noise levels at ISO-200 at the shutter speed of less than 10 seconds wouldn't really be much of an issue. Now at higher iso's and a 5 or 10 sec exposure is different.

I never really shot more than about a 5 second exposure so I didn't really mess with it much, hope that helps. Scott

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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Tue 19-Aug-08 05:16 AM
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#9. "RE: D700 Long Exposure NR?"
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"I am almost positive" - check with View NX > Camera Settings. It's off by default & kicks in for shutter speeds slower than 1 sec.

  

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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberTue 19-Aug-08 11:05 AM
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#10. "RE: D700 Long Exposure NR?"
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yeah, I said that because I didn't have access to the shooting data at the time... here is the full shooting data, and yes, it was off. It does kick in on exp over 1sec, but I had NR off, so no NR on this file.

File Info 1
File: _D7A0081-edit.nef, _D7A0081-edit.jpg
Date Created: 7/28/2008 8:58:01 PM, 7/28/2008 8:58:02 PM
Date Modified: 7/28/2008 8:58:02 PM, 7/28/2008 8:58:04 PM
File Size: 11.5 MB, 2.98 MB
Image Size: L (4256 x 2832), FX
File Info 2
Date Shot: 7/28/2008 20:19:15.22
World Time: UTC-6, DST:OFF
Image Quality: Lossless Compressed RAW (12-bit), RAW (12-bit)
Artist: Scott Fillmer
Copyright: (C)2008 Scott Fillmer, Auburn Images
Image Comment: http://www.scottfillmer.com
Camera Info
Device: Nikon D700
Lens: 24-70mm F/2.8G
Focal Length: 27mm
Focus Mode: Manual
AF-Area Mode: Single
VR:
AF Fine Tune: OFF
Exposure
Aperture: F/8
Shutter Speed: 6.2s
Exposure Mode: Manual
Exposure Comp.: 0EV
Exposure Tuning:
Metering: Center-Weighted
ISO Sensitivity: ISO 200
Flash
Flash Sync Mode:
Flash Mode:
Flash Exposure Comp.:
Colored Gel Filter:
Image Settings
White Balance: Auto, 0, 0
Color Space: Adobe RGB
High ISO NR: OFF
Long Exposure NR: OFF
Active D-Lighting: Auto
Image Authentication: ON
Vignette Control: Normal
Picture Control
Picture Control: VIVID
Base:
Quick Adjust: -
Sharpening: 4
Contrast: Active D-Lighting
Brightness: Active D-Lighting
Saturation: +1
Hue: 0
Filter Effects:
Toning:
GPS
Latitude:
Longitude:
Altitude:
Heading:
UTC:

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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Thu 21-Aug-08 09:53 AM
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#11. "RE: D300 Long Exposure"
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Thanks, that's much more infos that I was looking for. Your shot is very nice. I find it difficult to shoot lightning under a 15 second exposure as it often falls before or after the shot unless it's a very active storm.

I was lucky for the volcano shot as there was no rain or mist which can explain the glow in
purple6816's photos in post #2. I chose 30s. to capture the lava trail & because it was about the time between lightning strikes.

I'm on the fence for a D700 & was looking for pics to compare noise to my D300. I tried to mimic your settings but no lightning tonight so I shot a plant outside light by tungsten from the house: D300, jpeg fine, 50mm f/1.8 @ f/3.5, ISO 200, 6 seconds, Long Exposure NR off, white balance incandescent, sharpening 6, Active D-Lighting low, no post processing except re-sizing & "Save for web" with Photoshop CS3 @ maximum quality, 100% crop:


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AgapeLight Silver Member Charter MemberThu 21-Aug-08 11:34 AM
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#12. "RE: D300 Long Exposure - D700 Noise"
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Auburn, US
          

Well, I have not really had much shooting opportunities with the D700, but I would say in comparison to the D300 it has about a stop or two advantage in noise. I have shot 1600 with the D300 and 3200 on the D700 which look about the same.

This below is a 100% of a shot from the D700 from last night at ISO-3200 and then the one below, same thing but the D300 at ISO-1600. Only thing I did to these two images below was open the jpg file and pull out a 100% crop of each.

I actually think the ISO-3200 on the D700 looks a little better than the ISO-1600 on the D300. Sorry focal lengths are different but that was the only 3200 shot I had (it was 1/200 at 2.8). First one is the D300 and I had to save them around 60% quality to get down to the 150k file size.









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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Fri 22-Aug-08 08:10 AM
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#14. "RE: D300 Long Exposure - D700 Noise"
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Monteverde Cloud Forest, CR
          

Thanks for posting those, they are both amazing considering they are 100% crops.

FX really shines @ 3,200 ISO & up but I was also wondering about low ISO & long exposure.

I took some more pictures of the Arenal Volcano 3 days ago but there was a light fog. Shot a night with an almost full moon: D300, ISO 200, 30s, no Long Exposure NR (takes time & prefer doing it on a PC), 50mm @ f/1.8, cloudy, sharpen 6, raw converted with NX, no post processing, full frame & 100% crop. Tip to post with maximum quality for web, the image needs to be about 500x500 pixels to be under 150kb.


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DrRoebuck Registered since 01st Dec 2007Fri 22-Aug-08 05:37 AM
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#13. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Los Angeles, US
          

Did someone say lightning? Figure this is as good a time as any for a first-time post.

Took these a few nights ago with the D700 and 24-70/2.8. All were 30-sec. exposures, between f/8 and f/16.
















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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Fri 22-Aug-08 08:23 AM
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#15. "RE: D700 lightning & long exposure"
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Monteverde Cloud Forest, CR
          

Spectacular photos! You got lucky with the lightning doing an arc around the tree.

Could you tell me the ISO of the first shot & post a 100% crop 500x500 pixels with no post-processing?

  

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DrRoebuck Registered since 01st Dec 2007Fri 22-Aug-08 04:38 PM
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#17. "RE: D700 lightning & long exposure"
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Fri 22-Aug-08 06:05 PM by DrRoebuck

Los Angeles, US
          

Thanks for the comments and warm welcome!

>Could you tell me the ISO of the first shot & post a 100%
>crop 500x500 pixels with no post-processing?

ISO 200, and I turned off Long Exposure NR because of how long it took to render between exposures. Turns out you don't really need it.


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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Fri 22-Aug-08 09:15 PM
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#18. "RE: D700 lightning & long exposure crop"
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Monteverde Cloud Forest, CR
          

Thanks for the crop but could you post a crop of a part with more gradient so we could see the noise, if there is any , like the sidewalk/grass or car/hydrant?

  

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DrRoebuck Registered since 01st Dec 2007Sat 23-Aug-08 12:47 AM
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#19. "RE: D700 lightning & long exposure crop"
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Sat 23-Aug-08 12:50 AM by DrRoebuck

Los Angeles, US
          

>Thanks for the crop but could you post a crop of a part with
>more gradient so we could see the noise, if there is any ,
>like the sidewalk/grass or car/hydrant?

Here ya go. Keep in mind this was at ISO 200, so the only significant noise I'd expect to see would be from the long exposure. I turned off Long Exposure NR. On a few pics, mainly the ones over the ocean, I quickly went through and cleaned up a few noisy pixels. But no more than 5 or 6 per image.


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monteverde_org Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Nov 2007Sat 23-Aug-08 02:06 AM
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#20. "RE: D700 lightning & long exposure crop"
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Monteverde Cloud Forest, CR
          

Thank you for taking the time to post this. I wish I had a D700 so I could do some tests myself or maybe I would be too busy just shooting?

  

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#16. "RE: D700 First Low Light Pics"
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Auburn, US
          

just super lightning shots, love the ones out over the water and welcome to the nikonians forum

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