Go to a  "printer friendly" view of this message which allow an easy print Printer-friendly copy Go to the page which allows you to send this topic link and a message to a friend Email this topic to a friend
Forums Lobby TRAVEL & GETTING TOGETHER FORUMS Nikonians Academy NA Workshops (Public) topic #1271
View in linear mode

Subject: "Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A" Previous topic | Next topic
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sat 25-Jun-11 04:05 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
"Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"


Morro Bay, US
          

The October 2011 Eastern Sierra & Owens Valley workshop is sold out for this year. Due to unprecedented popular demand (the workshop sold out nine months prior to the start date), we added an additional 5 spots for the workshop, and they sold out quickly as well. I have hired an additional instructor, Joe Johnston, to assist during the workshop. Joe has assisted on the Big Sur 2010 workshop, as well as this spring's Death Valley workshop, and brings a wealth of photographic knowledge to the workshop!


LOCATIONS:
As a teaser for the workshop, a quick summary of locations:
• Mt. Whitney (tallest mountain in the lower 48)
• Mono Lake (tufa spires rising out of the calm waters under the alpine glow at sunrise)
• Bristlecone Pine Forest (oldest living things in the world(!) and beuatifully sculpted)
• Alabama Hills (bizarre rock formations)
• Bodie Ghost Town (this place is legendary; sprawling ghost town in an arrested state of decay!)
• Lundy Lake/Canyon & Mill Creek (the beaver pond always ends up being a workshop favorite)
• Bishop Creek (this is the true secret location for many landscape photographers, with aspen groves tucked under glacial peaks)
• Dramatic sunsets and sunrises over the Sierra Nevada range, from locations deep in the mountains
• And a special star trails location that just can't be beat!

A big plus for this workshop is that it is not located in a National Park or an isolated location. The workshop base is in Bishop, Calif., a large city with numerous motel and dining options. This keeps the collateral costs (lodging, food) at a low price point, compared to the inflated prices you find in the national parks and other isolated locations.


SCHEDULE:
If you read the comments from previous workshops, you know that this workshop has a great diversity of locations from low deserts to high-altitude mountains, with lots of early mornings and late nights. I believe one person put it best when they said, "Who needs sleep and oxygen!"

To help ease everyone into the rough schedule we will be having, here are the daily start/end times for the workshop:

Thurs, Oct 20th:
Start: 9:00am in Bishop
End: 7:30pm ETA back in Bishop

Fri, Oct 21st:
Start: 5:30am departure from Bishop
End: 11:00pm ETA back in Bishop (mid-afternoon break back in Bishop scheduled with late lunch/early dinner)

Sat, Oct 22nd:
Start: 5:30am departure from Bishop
End: 8:30pm ETA back in Bishop

Sun, Oct 23rd:
Start: 5:00am departure from Bishop
End: Noon workshop completion.

There is a rest period set in the mid-afternoon for both Friday and Saturday, as I know that it's nearly impossible to keep the type of schedule we will be doing. And the early morning and late evenings are the crucial events/locations of the workshop.



ACCOMMODATIONS & TRAVEL:
We will be staying in Bishop, located on Highway 395. Please use this link to download a list of recommended hotels as well as the workshop start time and location.
http://www.nikonians.org/dcfp/user_files/198085.pdf


MEALS:
The workshop schedule usually allows for a sit-down breakfast and sit-down dinner every day, while some days we will have a sit-down lunch or get a lunch to-go in order to maximize our shooting time. NOTE: Every day, we will not be eating breakfast until AFTER our first shooting location. Since we will be at our first location pre-dawn, if you are the type that needs to get a little something in your stomach first thing, I recommend bringing some snacks for pre-breakfast.


WORKSHOP SCHEDULE:
The workshop will begin on Thursday, October 20 with the required orientation during breakfast, and will conclude Sunday, May 23 just after lunch, allowing for travel time back to the airport/home.

Each day will include a full-schedule of shooting of all the environments of the Eastern Sierra & Owens Valley. We will begin at sunrise and go to sunset each day, with some days going well past sunset. There will also be an exercise in "Astro Photography" one of the nights.

A detailed itinerary of our daily schedule will be provided to everyone during the workshop orientation.


TRANSPORTATION:
During the breakfast orientation, we will make carpooling choices to avoid having a caravan of vehicles with one driver in each vehicle! Four cars will easily support transportation needs for the four days. If there are members of this group who have a vehicle ideal for carpooling and are willing to volunteer, I applaud you for your efforts.

In addition, if workshop participants are driving from the same areas, or flying into the same airport, I strongly recommend establishing a carpool to and from Bishop for both before and after the workshop. Please post in the forum below where you are coming from or the airport you are flying into so that we can begin that dialogue.

*** PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR ARRIVAL DETAILS, INCLUDING IF YOU ARE CARPOOLING. I would appreciate it if everyone could email me at mmariant@nikonians.org their travel plans AND their cell phone contact information so if there is a problem with arrivals, we can communicate. I will reply to your email with my cell phone number.


TERRAIN:
Nearly all of our photo locations are either just off trail or in fairly level locations. Some might require light boulder-scrambling for additional vantage points, if desired. Some of the locations that we will be shooting at are of high elevation, including over 10,000 feet. Yes, you do experience shortness of breath. We take it very easy at the upper elevations. If you have concerns or reservations about this, please privately email me at: mmariant@nikonians.org


PHOTO EQUIPMENT:
• While a full-range of focal-length lenses, from wide to medium-tele is sufficient for this workshop, I am not one to state that the workshop requires certain lenses or cameras in order to properly capture the scene. Lenses that start in the 17mm range on the wide side and top out at 200mm on the long side will do a fine job. Chances of seeing wildlife and needing a 300mm or longer lens? About 1-5%.

• A tripod is a must, however.

• One piece of equipment that I strongly recommend is a graduated neutral density (ND) filter. There are several options out there for filters, varying from graduatedto the Vario-n-Duo. The graduated ND filter that I would recommend would be either a 2-stop or 3-stop soft graduated filter. These help balance out the brighter sky to the dark foreground. The region that we will be exploring is ground zero for the advent and application of grad filters. Again, not required, but would be helpful. Can you survive without the grad filter? Absolutely. There are two options for these graduated neutral density filters: glass or plastic/resin. Glass is more expensive, but better quality, while the plastic/resin produce some horrible and unacceptable color casts on longer exposures. Stay away from the plastic ones at all costs, if you can.

Within these graduated ND filters, there are two types referred to as 'hard' or 'soft', in reference to how the degree of gradation. Hard has almost a delineated line between the clear portion of the filter and the darker ND portion. Soft has a more gradual gradation and I recommend the 'soft' filter for first-time use.

Note the the amount of ND is referred to in a decimal form, with every .3 being -1 stop of light. So a .9 would be -3 ND.

For landscape photography, I would recommend a -3 stop soft graduated ND filter.

Here is the link to the filters at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=graduated+neutral+density+filters&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

Note that these filters measure 4"x4", 4"x4.5" or 4"x5" in dimension. They can be hand-held or (ideally) placed in a Cokin P-filter holder. This opens up another proverbial 'can of worms' as the P-filter holder attaches to the end of the lens on the P-filter adapter ring. So the ring goes on the lens, the P-filter holder goes on the adapter ring and the filter goes in the P-filter holder.

• There will be an evening of star trails and astrophotography, one of the highlights of the workshop. You don't need any experience for this type of photography as there will be full instruction on the technique and methods. What will be needed is a cable release that allows you to lock the shutter for longer then 30 seconds. Not a cable release that simply clicks the shutter, but rather can hold the shutter open for any length of time. (Check your camera/manual to determine exactly what your camera is capable of doing and what type of shutter release you would need. Some cameras can hold the shutter open on 'bulb' with a locking camera release cable.) If you bring the wrong one (or don't bring one at all) you will be greatly disappointed in not being able to participate in the star trails exercise.

• I also suggest bringing a flash if you have one, as you might want to use it to 'paint' the foreground in the sunrise or sunset shots, as well as during our "Astro Photography" exercise to paint our foreground object.

In regards to carrying your camera equipment, I strongly recommend a small photo backpack, waistbelt and/or chest harness (such as those from ThinkTank) as it will be much easier to carry your gear in this manner than with a bulky camera bag. When packing and choosing your gear to bring, remember one thing: keep it simple and light!


NON-PHOTOGRAPHIC EQUIPMENT:
• Alarm clock

• Cool clothes for the day and light-weight jacket for the evenings (daytime temps in Owens Valley will be in the low 90s while in the low 70s in the upper elevations. Evening temperatures could drop to the low 40s)

• A flashlight/head lamp and hat are REQUIRED.

• Good light-duty hiking boots with excellent traction are REQUIRED as we will be off-trail and might be doing some light boulder scrambling at times and good foot traction and strong ankle support is necessary.


**************


That should do it! Feel free to post any questions here in this dedicated Eastern Sierra & Owens Valley 2011 workshop thread.

See you in the outdoors!

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

Attachment #1, (pdf file)

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
Subject Author Message Date ID
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
25th Jun 2011
1
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
25th Jun 2011
2
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
25th Jun 2011
3
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
25th Jun 2011
4
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
25th Jun 2011
5
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
26th Jun 2011
6
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
29th Jun 2011
8
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
28th Jun 2011
7
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
08th Jul 2011
10
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
08th Jul 2011
11
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
09th Jul 2011
13
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
09th Jul 2011
14
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
09th Jul 2011
16
                    Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
10th Jul 2011
17
                         Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
11th Jul 2011
18
                              Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
11th Jul 2011
19
                                   Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
11th Jul 2011
20
                                   Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
11th Jul 2011
21
                                   Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
19th Aug 2011
26
                                        Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
29th Aug 2011
30
                                             Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
29th Aug 2011
31
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
05th Jul 2011
9
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
08th Jul 2011
12
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
PeteG Gold Member
09th Jul 2011
15
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
11th Jul 2011
22
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
relishguy
27th Jul 2011
23
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
ebophoto Silver Member
15th Aug 2011
24
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
15th Aug 2011
25
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
19th Aug 2011
27
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Penobdon Silver Member
24th Aug 2011
28
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
28th Aug 2011
29
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
lynngail Silver Member
08th Sep 2011
32
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
08th Sep 2011
33
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
lynngail Silver Member
10th Sep 2011
34
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
10th Sep 2011
35
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
10th Sep 2011
36
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
03rd Oct 2011
37
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
05th Oct 2011
38
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
05th Oct 2011
39
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
06th Oct 2011
40
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
06th Oct 2011
41
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
relishguy
06th Oct 2011
46
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
06th Oct 2011
47
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
relishguy
06th Oct 2011
48
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
06th Oct 2011
49
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
07th Oct 2011
50
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
07th Oct 2011
51
                    Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
07th Oct 2011
52
                         Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
07th Oct 2011
53
                         Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
PeteG Gold Member
07th Oct 2011
54
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
06th Oct 2011
42
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
06th Oct 2011
44
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
relishguy
11th Oct 2011
55
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Enny
11th Oct 2011
57
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
mmariant Team Member
06th Oct 2011
43
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
boblin Silver Member
06th Oct 2011
45
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Penobdon Silver Member
13th Oct 2011
60
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
jricca
13th Oct 2011
61
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
13th Oct 2011
62
                    Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
Penobdon Silver Member
13th Oct 2011
73
                         Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
13th Oct 2011
74
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
relishguy
11th Oct 2011
56
Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
david_mathre Platinum Member
12th Oct 2011
58
     Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
12th Oct 2011
59
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
13th Oct 2011
          Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
sabbey51 Gold Member
13th Oct 2011
63
               Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
rbaskin Silver Member
13th Oct 2011
65
                    Reply message RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A
aram535
13th Oct 2011
72
Reply message 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
mmariant Team Member
13th Oct 2011
64
Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
jricca
13th Oct 2011
66
Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
mmariant Team Member
13th Oct 2011
68
Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
Enny
13th Oct 2011
69
     Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
mmariant Team Member
13th Oct 2011
70
     Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
jricca
13th Oct 2011
71
     Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
PeteG Gold Member
15th Oct 2011
80
Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
kenm99 Gold Member
13th Oct 2011
76
     Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
jricca
13th Oct 2011
77
          Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
Penobdon Silver Member
14th Oct 2011
78
Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
haysys
13th Oct 2011
67
     Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
boblin Silver Member
13th Oct 2011
75
          Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
Penobdon Silver Member
15th Oct 2011
79
          Reply message RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra
PeteG Gold Member
15th Oct 2011
81
Reply message RE: Eastern Sierra Fall Colors
mmariant Team Member
16th Oct 2011
82
Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
mmariant Team Member
16th Oct 2011
83
Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
rbaskin Silver Member
18th Oct 2011
84
Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
jricca
18th Oct 2011
85
Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
Penobdon Silver Member
19th Oct 2011
87
     Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
mmariant Team Member
19th Oct 2011
88
          Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
Penobdon Silver Member
19th Oct 2011
90
               Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
mmariant Team Member
19th Oct 2011
91
                    Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
Penobdon Silver Member
19th Oct 2011
92
                         Reply message Sad it's over ...
sabbey51 Gold Member
25th Oct 2011
93
                              Reply message Roger's headlines
relishguy
25th Oct 2011
94
                                   Reply message RE: Roger's headlines
Penobdon Silver Member
26th Oct 2011
95
                                        Reply message RE: Roger's headlines
mmariant Team Member
26th Oct 2011
96
Reply message RE:Meet & Dine
aram535
19th Oct 2011
86
Reply message RE: Weather forecast
mmariant Team Member
19th Oct 2011
89
Reply message Post Workshop Alpenglow
Silversmith
27th Oct 2011
97
Reply message Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate
Silversmith
27th Oct 2011
98
Reply message Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate
Silversmith
27th Oct 2011
99
Reply message Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate
Silversmith
27th Oct 2011
100
Reply message Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate
Silversmith
27th Oct 2011
101

Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Sat 25-Jun-11 05:24 AM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#1. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

The days look pretty short to me for saying "who needs sleep".

Last time I did night photography I got up around 1am and went to bed around 10pm, two days in a row.

About the filters there are also "Transitions Over Full Length of Filter". Would they be of any use?

I'm looking forward to this workshop.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sat 25-Jun-11 05:52 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#2. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 1


Morro Bay, US
          

Good question for clarification!

A "Transition over full length of filter" is a graduated ND filter that the gradation of neutral density starts at one edge of the filter (at 0% of ND) and continues to the other end/edge of the filter (at 100% of the ND).

This compares to the "standard" graduated ND filters where the actual gradation is more 'concentrated' in the center of the filter, with a defined 'hard' or 'soft' line, allowing for the filter to moved up or down in the filter holder to place that 'hard' or 'soft' line at the horizon or wherever the transition of gradation needs to be.

Here is an example of all three type of ND filters:


These are two distinctly different types of graduated ND filters. For the purpose of landscape photography, and especially the scenes we will find on our workshop as well as most landscape scenes, you WILL NOT need a "transition over full length of filter" ND filter, but rather one that has a 'hard' or 'soft' gradation, ideally a 'soft' for this type of landscape purposes.

ALSO: It is strongly discouraged from purchasing a screw-mount graduated ND filter, one that would screw on to the end of the lens. This doesn't allow for any adjustment of the gradation, and you have to sacrifice your composition just to accommodate the filter.

I hope that better explains the differences.


____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Sat 25-Jun-11 06:59 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#3. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 2


Saddle river, US
          

Mike:

I'm looking forward to coming, as we have so much fun and got so much out of the 2010 Yosemite Spring workshop.

On this topic, I seem to remember you didn't like the Cokin ND filters. Does this appy to the grad filters as well?

Scott

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sat 25-Jun-11 09:28 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#4. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 3


Morro Bay, US
          

The Cokin filters are well known in the industry to produce strong casts from pink to purple across the entire image when doing long exposures, long being roughly 1/4 second or longer. This is especially problematic in long exposures for motion blur with water, for example.

In the case of landscape photography, exposures usually are not that long except for morning and evening, when is when you need the filters most. Of course.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Sat 25-Jun-11 10:03 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#5. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 4


Saddle river, US
          

Well ok then, I guess this year's investment will include Lee filters.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sun 26-Jun-11 12:53 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#6. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 5


Morro Bay, US
          

If you have Cokin filters already, test them at the longer shutter speeds during dawn/dusk to see at what shutter speed you get the color casts at, so you know the limitations of your filters. Unless you need an excuse to get new Lee or Singh-Ray filters...

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Wed 29-Jun-11 07:32 AM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#8. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 2


US
          

Thank you. I made the misstake of buying a screw on (circular) graduated ND filter 2 months ago and couldn't find any use for it yet. I guess I'll sell it. I'm not sure If I'll go through the hassle with 4x4 graduated filter with/without holder.

I usually prefer to get the taking picture as close to the final product as possible to save time in editing it later.

But I'm wondering if the things we want to capture with the graduated ND filter can be done with bracketed shots (HDR).
I haven't really done any HDR yet and I would want to do it only as last resort and in this case (if it works) it is maybe easier than using the filter.

regards

Enrico

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Tue 28-Jun-11 09:15 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#7. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

I'm a big fan of ND filters in general, but usually full ND 1, 2 or 3 stop filters and no graduation. I then combine the images in post which is usually easy since the sky is usually blown in one of the two shots.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 08-Jul-11 08:51 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#10. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 7


Morro Bay, US
          

>I'm a big fan of ND filters in general, but usually full ND
>1, 2 or 3 stop filters and no graduation. I then combine the
>images in post which is usually easy since the sky is usually
>blown in one of the two shots.
>
>But I'm wondering if the things we want to capture with the graduated
>ND filter can be done with bracketed shots (HDR).
>I haven't really done any HDR yet and I would want to do it only as
>last resort and in this case (if it works) it is maybe easier than
>using the filter.


The process of taming the exposure range of a scene when it is greater than the limits of the camera's sensor can be done in multiple methods, including the use of gradauated filters, or altering exposure and adjusting in post on the computer, or using HDR techniques in the field coupled with HDR software.

But do take note that all three of these processes produce three distinctly different results. To be fair, a Photoshop expert in post-production could take a bracketed exposure and "blend" it to look as natural as one taken with a graduated filter.

HDR can easily take a photo and move it beyond what the eye would see and into something of an artistic bend.

The use of graduated filters is the quickest and most natural appearance, if done correctly.

Enrico nailed it when he said he prefers to get the picture as close as possible to what he previsualizes the final photo to be, in order to reduce the amount of time later in post on the computer. We're photographers, not computer technicians. Wouldn't you rather spend time in the amazing outdoors taking pictures then sitting in a dark cave fiddling around in Photoshop to "see what you can get"?

While we will explore HDR techniques and options during the workshop, the use of graduated filters will be critical and key to successfully applying the learning and academic principles that will be presented in the workshop. As each day's lessons and locations build on the next, if you have to wait until you can post-process your images (due to HDR or Photoshop techniques) before you can see the workshop lessons in action, then you will be lost and left behind after the first location.

There is no time for post-processing in this workshop. One of the many educational facets of this workshop is previsualization and applying the approaches on-the-spot —— and learning from the immediate results.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 08-Jul-11 08:55 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#11. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 7


Morro Bay, US
          

Based on your brief description of using the full ND filters for multiple shots and then combining them in post, I am perplexed as to what advantage the solid ND filters provide in the bracketed exposure process you are using. There would be no difference than simply 'stopping down' your camera exposure to get the same results.

Solid ND is necessary for long exposure and/or depth of field manipulations. Not sure what the advantage would be for bracketing your exposure, aside from not changing the physical exposure settings...

Regardless, the result from such an extensive post-production process would nonetheless be considerably different than using graduation filters. For this workshop, to capitalize, integrate and apply the educational purpose of the workshop over the course of the four days, a graduation filter is necessary.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Sat 09-Jul-11 01:53 AM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#13. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 11


US
          

>Based on your brief description of using the full ND filters
>for multiple shots and then combining them in post, I am
>perplexed as to what advantage the solid ND filters provide in
>the bracketed exposure process you are using. There would be
>no difference than simply 'stopping down' your camera exposure
>to get the same results.
>

First, I totally agree with you that a GND is the proper tool, don't get me wrong. I simply hate plate (colkin) filters effect so those are 100% out. The reason I don't usually use a GND is that I don't like putting the horizon in the middle of my image and I don't like too much tone changes in my sky so I end up cutting the sky too small in my composition (my own fault).

To answer your question, you're incorrectly assuming multiple shots with the ND filter. Simply using it as the sky exposure shot is all I use it for. Now that I have a good sky exposure I can take a bunch of landscape shots and PS the sky in.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sat 09-Jul-11 03:08 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#14. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 13
Sat 09-Jul-11 03:09 AM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          

>
>First, I totally agree with you that a GND is the proper tool,
>don't get me wrong. I simply hate plate (colkin) filters
>effect so those are 100% out. The reason I don't usually use
>a GND is that I don't like putting the horizon in the middle
>of my image and I don't like too much tone changes in my sky
>so I end up cutting the sky too small in my composition (my
>own fault).
>
>To answer your question, you're incorrectly assuming multiple
>shots with the ND filter. Simply using it as the sky exposure
>shot is all I use it for. Now that I have a good sky exposure
>I can take a bunch of landscape shots and PS the sky in.


Ahhh, I knew I shouldn't have assumed your workflow!

With the 4"x4", 4"x5" and/or 4"x6" graduated ND filters, you don't need to place the horizon in the middle of your image. The horizon can be wherever you like, and not even level! Plus, the 3-stop soft graduated ND filter also comes in handy post-sunset in balancing out foreground with the alpenglow that is so dominant in the Eastern Sierra.

Take a look at the B&H link above to see the multitude of options available for 4"x filters. In all the years I have been doing this workshop, the filter pulled out most often is the 3-stop soft.

And a bit of photo history: The late Galen Rowell, one of the legends in landscape photography, called our workshop base of Bishop his home (and sadly where he perished in a plane crash), mostly due to the combination of his love in photographing the Eastern Sierra and rock climbing. It was from his extensive photography in the Eastern Sierra that Rowell helped develop the gradated filter with Singh-Ray in the early 70s.


©Copyright Galen Rowell/Mountain Light Gallery

An astute observer can slightly ascertain the gradation in his classic images, but not without a certain degree of study, as his application of the filters resulted in images that mirrored closely to what the human eye would see in dynamic range, however with much more dramatic flair. And often times, where you think the graduated line was placed, such as a sky gradation, is not the actual placement, as Rowell was careful about not making the gradation too obvious.


We will spend some time during the morning orientation on the first day analyzing several of Galen's photographs, and then going to the exact same locations throughout the workshop to see the application, technique and camera work in person. At each of these locations, we will review the photograph(s) once again, to see how it all comes together.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Sat 09-Jul-11 03:28 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#16. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 14


US
          

I looked up the GND filters and holders. The Cokin P holder seems to be too small to hold 4x4 filter I think for that you need the Z-Pro Filter holder. The GND 4x4 glass filter go for $150+ . The question is if the Cokin filter holder can properly hold the glass filter from another vendor because the filter from Cokin are not glass filter and the Cokin holder is maybe not designed to hold the heavier glass filter.
The 4x4 filter holder from other vendors are really expensive.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sun 10-Jul-11 10:05 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#17. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 16


Morro Bay, US
          



The Cokin P holder holds filters that are 83mm wide. Since their resin filters are about the same thickness of most glass filters, there are not problems with them sliding in.

Singh-Ray makes filters which fit Cokin P, including 83x120mm graduated NDs.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Mon 11-Jul-11 04:10 AM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#18. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 17


US
          

Thanks. Are they glass or "plastic"? Glass filter are better quality right?

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Mon 11-Jul-11 07:21 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#19. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 18


Morro Bay, US
          

Yes, glass filters generally are better than the plastic/resin. The Singh-Rah are glass.

The big difference between the glass and plastic is that the glass filters are true-ND while the plastic/resin (such as Cokin) are just a gray that is 'painted' on to the filter.

The resulting color cast (which is even apparent in a few glass filters, but only at extreme ND and very long exposure) is due to the plastic/resin filter's inability to reduce the amount of infrared that is transmitted, which builds up on the red sensor at varying degrees, starting at light pink and going all the way to purple. This is the color cast we see using the plastic/resin filters, even at short exposures.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Mon 11-Jul-11 07:40 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#20. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 19


US
          

Thanks. On BHPhoto is says optical resin contruction for the filter:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/166994-REG/Singh_Ray_R_36_3_3_x_4_7.html/BI/4775/KBID/5289/
But it got good reviews also saying that it has no color cast.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Mon 11-Jul-11 07:52 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#21. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 20


US
          

I do agree with Michael, glass is 100% the way to go. I've done 60 second exposures (ND not Gradual) with my Sunpak ND8 (glass, .9 stop) with absolutely no color casting at all. With my B+W (not multicoated) resin ND4 (.6 stop) one a 15 second exposure gave me a slight halo (fixable in photoshop).

Singh-Ray switched to resin a while back, they cited "people kept breaking them" as the reason for the switch. Having said that I have not heard of any major color issues with them, however nobody that I talked to had done any long duration shots with them.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Fri 19-Aug-11 07:28 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#26. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 19


US
          

I just got the Singh-Ray 85mm/Cokin-P ND soft graduated 3stop filter.

The Cokin 77mm adapter ring or the Cokin set of P Holder and 77mm adapter ring don't seem to be available. They are out of stock and rarely listed anywhere for months now.

I couldn't wait anymore so I bought the Hitech 3 SLOT HOLDER (Plastic) and their 77mm adapter ring. That did cost me $47 more (or three times as much) than the Cokin set ofP holder and adapter ring.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Mon 29-Aug-11 12:47 AM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#30. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 26


US
          

BTW, I broke down and bought the Lee Filters starter kit just for this trip. Now I have to go practice with it. I tried it out during the hurricane we just had and it just didn't do what I expected it to do, so hopefully I can figure it out between now and October.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                        
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Mon 29-Aug-11 01:29 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#31. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 30


Morro Bay, US
          

Don't worry about trying to figure it out ... that's what the workshop's for.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Tue 05-Jul-11 10:33 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#9. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

According to here there will be meteor showers during the workshop:
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/earthskys-meteor-shower-guide
"October 20 and 21, 2011 Orionids
The rather large waning crescent moon obtrudes somewhat on this year’s Orionid meteor shower. Although the moon doesn’t rise till after midnight, the Orionids usually wait until the wee morning hours to pick up steam. Despite the moonlight, meteor enthusiasts may want to give the Orionids a try anyway. On a dark, moonless night, the Orionids exhibit a maximum of about 15 meteors per hour. These fast-moving meteors occasionally leave persistent trains and bright fireballs. If you trace these meteors backward, they seem to come from Orion’s Club, or north of Orion’s bright, ruddy star Betelgeuse. The Orionids have a broad and irregular peak that is difficult to predict. More meteors tend to fly after midnight, and the Orionids are typically at their best in the wee hours before dawn. The best viewing will probably be before dawn on October 21 or 22, though the waning crescent moon may somewhat tarnish this year’s Orionid display."

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 08-Jul-11 08:57 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#12. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 9


Morro Bay, US
          

Enny,

Thanks for the heads-up. Based on our shooting schedule for the astrophotography, we will be leaving the location just as the moon rises, but before the peak of the meteor shower. But we will probably see some streaks in our exposures!

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
PeteG Gold Member Nikonian since 06th Jun 2008Sat 09-Jul-11 04:38 AM
106 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#15. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 12


San Rafael, US
          

OK, so I forgot how much you love Lee filters, so naturally I have Cokin and Tiffen. I'll make 'em work )

Printed a copy of the itinerary. Any suggestion on trying to get most of us to stay at the same hotel/motel?

Pete
My Photos

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Mon 11-Jul-11 09:57 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#22. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 15


Morro Bay, US
          

Pete,

Bishop is pretty small, and the type/value of the hotels are significant. In past years, it has never been a problem with everyone at the hotel of their choice.

Plus, with some hotels giving points, I'd hate to keep someone from getting their valuable frequent stay points! (I admit I'm one.)

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Wed 27-Jul-11 05:53 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#23. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


San Francisco, US
          

If anyone cannot make it please contact me...thanks...

relishphoto@gmail.com

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

ebophoto Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011Mon 15-Aug-11 03:47 PM
2 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#24. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


Dundas, CA
          

A friend and I are traveling to the workshop from Toronto by air to Las Vegas and then by car to Bishop. We have about 1.5 extra days on both the arrival and departure ends of the workshop to explore additional photo opportunities. Our driving route will take us west on the 190 and then north on the 395.
We've scoped out a few stops in Death Valley and we're looking for additional suggestions for "must see/photograph" locations. I've read that King's Canyon National Park is amazing but perhaps does not have great access from the 395 side. Would you agree?
At best we can only scratch the surface of this vast area, so any suggestions for photo locations (and time of day) would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You and looking forward to meeting all of you in two short months!

Eric Bosch

Dundas, Ontario, Canada

Visit my website.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Mon 15-Aug-11 03:55 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#25. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 24


US
          

>A friend and I are traveling to the workshop from Toronto by
>air to Las Vegas and then by car to Bishop. We have about 1.5
>extra days on both the arrival and departure ends of the
>workshop to explore additional photo opportunities. Our
>driving route will take us west on the 190 and then north on
>the 395.
>We've scoped out a few stops in Death Valley and we're looking
>for additional suggestions for "must see/photograph"
>locations. I've read that King's Canyon National Park is
>amazing but perhaps does not have great access from the 395
>side. Would you agree?
>At best we can only scratch the surface of this vast area, so
>any suggestions for photo locations (and time of day) would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank You and looking forward to meeting all of you in two
>short months!
>

I'm just about taking the same route, although I'm probably doing a 2 day wrap around. I really need to get in gear and start locking in some locations along the way.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 19-Aug-11 10:06 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#27. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 24


Morro Bay, US
          

I'll be posting a "side trip itinerary" next month for those that are traveling from Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Reno or San Francisco airports and would like to see some sights along the way.

Just as a quick note to your questions, Sequoia and Kings Canyon are not directly accessible at all from the eastern side of the Sierra from Hwy. 395. You would have to travel considerably south or north in order to cross over via Tioga Pass (Hwy. 120) from the north through Yosemite, or Hwy. 178 via Bakersfield from the south.

One of the aspects that makes this portion of the Eastern Sierra so dramatic and photogenic is the lack of accessibility. The eastern Sierra in this region is like a sheer wall rising up from Owens Valley, with a few roads providing access up into some of the glacial valleys or drainages, but none providing access over this incredibly rugged range.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberWed 24-Aug-11 01:27 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#28. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 27


Carmel, US
          

Thanks for the information. I'll be flying into Ls Vegas on the 18th, spending one night there and then renting a vehicle and heading to Bishop on the 19th.

My plan is to drive to Beatty on the afternoon of the 20th and make use of the Furnace Creek entrance to Death Vally (just to say I've been there). I'll probably spend one night in Beatty before heading back to Las Vegas.

If the Furnace Creek/Death Valley idea is a bad one, please let me know!

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sun 28-Aug-11 05:17 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#29. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 28
Sun 28-Aug-11 05:25 PM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          

Don't get too excited about Beatty. Not much there. Also, from Beatty it is a bit of a drive to get to Furnace Creek "proper" versus other locations in Death Valley. Beatty provides access across the northern part of Death Valley, allowing continued westbound travel on Highway 190 to Highway 395.

The only plus to staying in Beatty is the VERY close proximity to the small ghost town of Rhyolite, as well as the entrance to Titus Canyon (a lengthy 2+ hour, one-way, semi-4WD slot canyon route into Death Valley that is spectacular, but closed if there is a threat of thunderstorms; check first.)

If you want to see Badwater, Dantes View, Devils Golf Course or other places in Death Valley, I would recommend staying at the Longstreet Inn & Casino, located on Hwy. 373 (off of Hwy. 95 south of Beatty) right at the Nevada/Calif state line just outside of Death Valley. From here, you would go in to Death Valley via Death Valley Junction from the south and see all the major sites in the southern part of the park, continuing up to Hwy. 190 and the sand dunes before exiting the park via Stovepipe Wells out to Hwy. 395. (You could easily access Rhyolite and Titus Canyon from the intersection with Hwy 190, also.) Also, before leaving Longstreet Inn, be sure to drive "across the street" to Ash Meadows and see the pupfish. And Ash Meadows makes for some great sunrise or sunset shots if you are there during that time.

NOTE: I would strongly discourage anyone from trying to get to the Racetrack during a short trip like this. The road is very dangerous and cars are often abandoned after tire problems. Likewise, even with 4WD, I would discourage any off-road travel in Death Valley unless you are prepared for desert travel AND you are caravaning with another vehicle. Titus Canyon is generally OK due to the high-volume of vehicles that go down it.

Speaking of Death Valley (insert shameless plug here... ), I will be running a Nikonians Academy Death Valley workshop November 17-20 of this year, and there are still a few seats left! Click here to see the Death Valley workshop description.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

lynngail Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jul 2009Thu 08-Sep-11 04:39 AM
103 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#32. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


New York 10708, US
          

Hello Mike,
Looking forward to your workshop. Loved Moab last year with Winston.
Believe it's time for a new lens. Using the D90 with 18-105 lens. Would like ability to go wider. Option to go wider with DX format seem limited. Can you make a recommendation?
Appreciate advice,



Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 08-Sep-11 04:10 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#33. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 32


Morro Bay, US
          

The Nikon 10-24 would be a nice compliment to your 18-105. While the full 10mm on the cropped sensor can be a bit dramatic for some situations while working admirably in others, just stepping it to 11mm or 12mm makes for a nice, clean wide angle with acceptable distortion.

A key part of making the distortion not noticeable or to "disappear" is good composition. While a ultra-wide is not a 'required' lens for this workshop, there will be situation where it will come in handy and the workshop instruction will be specific in how to compose with ultra-wide angle lenses to make any distortion "disappear".

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
lynngail Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jul 2009Sat 10-Sep-11 03:12 PM
103 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#34. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 33


New York 10708, US
          



Didn't quite understand. Wouldn't the 10-24 be equivalent to 15-36 on D90? Is it worth carrying another lens for the 12mm's of width? Are panoramics a way to get around lack of width?

On the other end of the spectrum - Went shooting with a friend who just got the Nikon 70-300. I forgot how much fun a long lens can be as I've been concentrating on landscapes and wishing for a bit more on the wide end.

Working towards having a 3 lens kit.

Lynn








Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Sat 10-Sep-11 04:45 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#35. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 34


Saddle river, US
          

Lynn:

The 10-24 on the D90 (or any DX camera) is indeed equivalent to 15-36 on an FX or 35mm film camera, just as your 18-105 is equivalent to 24-160 (or thereabouts). So you're either getting "8mm" in DX terms or "12mm" in 35mm/FX terms of extra wide-ness.

For what it's worth, I have the Tokina 11-16 for a wide lens, complementing my 18-200. My third lens is a 35mm/1.8, which I found very useful last year for the night shots - despite the relatively narrow field, the extra speed shortened the exposures by a significant time. If you happen to have access to someone's 50mm lens from their film days, that would work just fine as well.

Scott

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sat 10-Sep-11 04:52 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#36. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 34


Morro Bay, US
          

Scott is correct with the conversions and extra focal lengths on the wide angle.

Just as reference, pro shooters have a standard 3-lens kit that we always use, based on full-frame cameras: 16-35mm, 24-70mm, and 70-200mm, all f2.8 lenses. Before there were full-frame digital cameras, this still was our standard 3-lens kit, but also complemented by a 10-22 or similar lens on the crop sensor, in order to get us back to the 16-35mm perspective of a full-frame.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Mon 03-Oct-11 06:51 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#37. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed 05-Oct-11 05:04 PM by Enny

US
          

Hi everyone,

we are getting closer to the workshop. I can't wait....

Is someone interested in carpoling from the Bay Area (San Francisco/Oakland/SanJose)? I'll leave the Bay Area Wednesday afternoon. 5-6hours driving from East Bay (Oakland) to Bishop.
It looks like we could also do some night photography (Milky Way, Startrails):
Sunrise is around 7:07am, Sunset 6:08pm
Moonset Friday 1:10am, Saturday 2:17am, Sunday 3:26am
that means dark skies (if there are no clouds)
Thursday: 7:35pm - approx. 0:30am
Friday: 7:35pm - approx. 1:40am
Saturday: 7:35pm - approx. 3:00am
That is plenty of time to shoot the Milky Way and do StarTrail/Star Circles before it gets too bright (from the moon).

Any objections Michael, that I would shoot some time out of town after the workshop schedule?
I know there will be a possibility one night with Astro Photography (as part of the workshop).

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Wed 05-Oct-11 10:03 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#38. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed 05-Oct-11 10:08 PM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          

Hello everyone in the 2011 Eastern Sierra & Owens Valley Workshop! Only two weeks to go until the start of the workshop!

This message has been cross-posted both in email form and also as a forum post on the dedicated Nikonians workshop forum page. There is a lot of information in the message, including information that I need from all workshop participants.



TRAVEL TO THE WORKSHOP/BISHOP FROM THE WEST:
I waited until today to post/send this message as I wanted to see the impact of the first major winter storm of the season on the Sierra Nevada range. As I type this, snow is falling at a heavy rate above 7000 ft/elevation. This will impact travel to/from the workshop for some participants. In a nutshell, at this time, Tioga Pass (Highway 120) through Yosemite is closed due to snow. The pass tops out at 9,950 ft, so you can imagine the volume of snow the road is getting right now. Because of the elevation and safety, Tioga Pass closes at the first snow of the season and will not reopen until after plowing in late May/early June. The exception to this is if the snowfall melts off the road and allows it to reopen. They will not plow the road at this time (with rare exception) to reopen it for travel.

What this means is anyone traveling from the San Francisco Bay Area, or flying into San Francisco or other nearby airports, your route of travel to Bishop just got a bit longer. The best route (for those not familiar with trans-Sierra crossings) would be to take Highway 50 from Sacramento to South Lake Tahoe, then drop down to Highway 395 via either Kingsbury Grade (just across the stateline in Nevada) or via Highway 89 south (right when you drop down into South Lake Tahoe) to Highway 88 east, to Highway 395 south.

Also, this potentially could disrupt a post-workshop offering for those who would be traveling west from Bishop back to the San Francisco area. I traditionally offer a post-workshop, independent trip to a "secret" photo location in Yosemite National Park (not in Yosemite Valley). There is a back-story to this location, attributed to Ansel Adams, that I will share with everyone during the workshop. This location is a very popular spot with photographers that know of it's whereabouts, and I share this spot with those who would like to visit it post-workshop. However, with the closure of Tioga Pass, and with no reference if it will reopen before the workshop, the opportunity to visit this Yosemite location is on hold until the road conditions are resolved. Most likely, this will not be resolved until just before — or during — the workshop.


NEEDED TRAVEL DETAILS FROM ALL WORKSHOP PARTICIPANTS:
With a group this size, different arrival times, different hotels and various vehicles, it can be problematic if someone doesn't show up the first morning for the orientation. Likewise, the three later mornings if someone sleeps through the alarm, the entire group sits in limbo waiting for the missing person. To alleviate any issues, and to be able to contact everyone in the event of last minute changes and track flight delays, I ask that everyone EMAIL me the following travel information:

Name:
1) Are you flying? (If "no", please skip to question #7)
2) What is your airport of arrival, flight number and arrival time?
3) Are you renting a car at the airport with others in your group?
4) Are you willing to carpool with your rental car during the workshop?
5) What day do you plan on arriving in Bishop?
6) What is your airport of departure, and when are you departing?
7) If you are driving (not flying), what city are you driving from?
8) If you are driving, when do you plan on arriving in Bishop?
9) If you are driving, when do you plan on leaving Bishop post-workshop?
10) If you are driving, would you be willing to carpool with others driving to/from the workshop?
11) What hotel are you staying at in Bishop?
12) Please provide me with your cell phone number. My cell phone number is listed in the email version of this message.

Simply cut and paste the section above and email back in reply. If you are reading this on the forum, please respond via email, NOT here on the public forum.


PRE-WORKSHOP/POST-WORKSHOP SHOOTING LOCATIONS:
I've been asked by several people about possible locations to shoot some landscape on the way to Bishop. Since Wednesday, Oct. 19 is a travel day for most everyone, it does provide the opportunity for photography.

However I do caution everyone that the drive to Bishop, regardless of where you are coming from (except for Mammoth Airport) is a long drive. We hit the ground running on Thursday morning and don't stop until Sunday afternoon, with little sleep, early morning call times and lots of shooting. I would caution all to not "wipe yourself out" on Wednesday with a late arrival in Bishop that evening; it has happened in the past and it makes for a miserable workshop experience.

That being said, if you are coming in from the following areas, here are some recommendations of sights and shooting locations along the way. (Note that we will be extensively covering the Eastern Sierra region from Mono Lake/Lee Vining in the north all the way to the Alabama Hills/Lone Pine in the south. I would recommend skipping anything in this area and spend your time at one of the many other locations on your route.)

Las Vegas: There are two routes to Bishop from Vegas, but the photographic route would take you through Death Valley. Enough said.

Reno: The stretch of Highway 395 from the Nevada/California stateline to Bridgeport is extremely scenic, especially the Walker River. Plus, a side trip up to Lake Tahoe is a must.

San Francisco: Well, if Tioga Pass is open, the easy choice is here is Yosemite National Park, and Yosemite Valley. Alternately, if you have done that before, of the hidden secrets in the Sierra foothills is Calavares Big Trees State Park, on Highway 4. If Ebbets Pass (Highway 4) is open as well, it can make for a beautiful (but long) drive over the Sierra Nevada range.

If you are arriving from another location not listed here and are interested in some shooting locations, let me know your route and I'll pass on some ideas.


EXTRACURRICULAR SHOOTING DURING THE WORKSHOP:
While it is at everyone's own discretion of what they do during the non-shooting time (ie: evenings post-sunset, aside from Friday evening), I would caution as to trying to stay up late shooting.

We have early call times every morning, meeting at 5am to depart to our locations. If you are sleepy or groggy, that can impede the workshop component (especially if you are a carpool driver!). Sunrises are key locations, both photographically and educationally. We will review the sunrise location each evening in order to maximize our pre-dawn shooting times. Our Friday evening return to Bishop is around midnight, with a morning meeting time just five hours later. I will need everyone to take advantage of the incorporated down-time in the workshop schedule in order to have the "stamina" to make it through! So please refrain from any attempts or desire to shoot outside the workshop itinerary.


WORKSHOP START:
As a reminder to everyone, if you haven't already downloaded the travel details and morning meeting informational PDF, please do so via this link:
http://www.nikonians.org/dcfp/user_files/198085.pdf

We will be meeting on the patio at the bakery at 9am, getting our breakfast and lunch items and then heading across the street to the large park for our orientation. This is mostly because of our large group size and we would take up the patio entirely.

For those arriving in Bishop on the afternoon of Wed. Oct. 19 and would like to have a pre-workshop meet and dine, typically it has happened at Whiskey Creek restaurant right in the middle of town, just south of the McDonalds. If you are interested in the pre-workshop meet and dine, please post a reply IN THE FORUM to all the workshop participants. DO NOT email me back to confirm the meet and dine.


WRAP-UP:
If you have any questions regarding the workshop, travel plans, shooting conditions, etc., please don't hesitate to contact me. If you feel it is a question and answer that the workshop community could benefit from, please post the question in the forum thread. If it is a private matter, please email me your question.

Also, if you haven't already subscribed to the workshop forum thread, please do so to ensure you receive any workshop updates. I will post any last-minute updates and changes to the forum thead ONLY from here on out. It is imperative you subscribe to the forum thread.



Thank you everyone for your cooperation and I will see you in two weeks in Bishop!

Cheers,
Michael



____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Wed 05-Oct-11 11:29 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#39. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 38


US
          

I'm coming in a day early into Las Vegas.

Las Vegas McCarran International Airport (LAS)
Local time: Tue, Oct 18 at 10:20 AM

I'll be heading out probably by noon or so from the car rental company (dollar). If anyone is arriving before or around noon let me know. Going to be taking the death valley path and stopping a couple of places.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Thu 06-Oct-11 01:12 AM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#40. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 38


Saddle river, US
          

Michael:

We're planning to fly out of SFO on Monday. In the event that 120 thru Yosemite is closed, what would be the best way to get there? Via Lake Tahoe?

Concerned,
Scott

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 01:29 AM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#41. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 40
Thu 06-Oct-11 01:30 AM by Enny

US
          

Lets hope It won't be closed (I have to drive that way too).
As Michael mentioned Up Hwy 395 then over to South Lake Tahoe and then Highway 50 to Sacramento....
It will add around an hour, it is longer but the road is not winding and has a speed limit of 35 like in Yosemite.

FYI:
I'm coming from San Leandro, CA on Wednesday, arriving late evening in Bishop
driving back to Bay Area on Sunday after Workshop (if Tioga Road is open I'll go to the secret spot).
I'm willing to carpool have space for 2-3 passengers depending on how much equipment we put in the car .

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 08:27 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#46. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 41


San Francisco, US
          

Hello Group:

My name is Roger. All of my details are not confirmed yet, but I expect to attend this workshop.

I am coming from SF, so I am interested in carpooling from the SF Bay Area. Thanks.

Regards..

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 08:33 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#47. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 46


US
          

When are you intending to leave and return the Bay Area? And where there exactly?

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 08:36 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#48. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 47


San Francisco, US
          

I have Wednesday thru Monday off. I guessed I would need Monday to "recover".

Also I live near Grace Catherdral in the city. I have a car or I could take Bart/Caltrain to anywhere in the Bay Area.

Regards..

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 09:01 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#49. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 48


US
          

Okay. I'm working on Wednesday and Monday. I'll leave work on Wednesday probably around 4pm or earlier.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 07-Oct-11 06:31 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#50. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 46
Fri 07-Oct-11 06:32 PM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          

To Roger and all others driving in from the SF Bay Area and surrounding regions:

I seriously doubt any of you are considering taking Highway 88 (Carson Pass, Caples Lake and Kirkwood) over the mountains to get to Highway 395, but I just read that construction is resuming on the road at Caples Lake, and the highway is completely closed down from 1pm to 4pm, Monday through Friday.

I would avoid this route.

-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Fri 07-Oct-11 06:52 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#51. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 50


US
          

Thanks. I didn't no consider taking 88.
If Tioga/Sonora is closed I'll drive through Sacramento take Hwy50 East, Hwy89 South (Luther Pass) then 395South.
Hwy89 part of it is labled as closed during winter but not at the moment (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/display.php?page=sr89)
Is maybe taking 88 North from Woodfords to get to 395 instead of driving 89 South from there faster, even though it is longer?

Enrico

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Fri 07-Oct-11 07:03 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#52. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 51


Morro Bay, US
          

Enrico,

As a South Lake Tahoe native, I think taking Hwy. 88 at Woodfords north to 395 (but cutting over before Minden) is faster than going Hwy. 89 over Monitor Pass. Especially if there is any weather conditions.

-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Fri 07-Oct-11 07:27 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#53. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 52


US
          

Michael,

Thank You. Let's hope I/We don't have to drive there and Tioga Rd is open.

Enrico

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
PeteG Gold Member Nikonian since 06th Jun 2008Fri 07-Oct-11 07:41 PM
106 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#54. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 52


San Rafael, US
          

Yes, much faster, but Monitor Pass can be a real beauty at certain times of the day

Pete
My Photos

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 06-Oct-11 02:06 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#42. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 38
Thu 06-Oct-11 02:07 AM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          




Here is the view of Tuolumne Meadows and Hwy. 120 today in Yosemite after the bulk of the storm moved through. Park Service is reporting that there is 12-18" of snow in the meadows.

Good news is this one sentence in the Park Service report: "The Tioga and Glacier Point Roads remain *temporarily* closed; we're not sure how long it will take to reopen them."

That means they believe the road will reopen again. Let's cross our fingers. And for those flying out of SFO (Scott and gang), the best route would be as Enny said, going up to Highway 50 to South Lake Tahoe and down to San Francisco. Good news is Tahoe is stunningly beautiful. Bad news is that the driving time from Bishop to SFO is over 7.5 hours.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Thu 06-Oct-11 04:40 AM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#44. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 42


US
          

Holy s.. weather report expected up to 9 inches above 8000. I think as long it stays warm during the day and it doesn't snow like crazy again the snow will be gone moslty in 2 weeks. After all it is powder snow and not snow/ice pack like after winter.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Tue 11-Oct-11 08:14 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#55. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 42


San Francisco, US
          

Hello colleagues:

I just looked at this page about Yosemite Road conditions: http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/conditions.htm

Then I called the number listed there and the recording says that "Tioga Road (Highway 120 through the park)" are currently open.

Does this mean that if it stays this way, we can get to Bishop in less time from SF Bay area?

Regards..Relishguy (=Roger)

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Tue 11-Oct-11 08:53 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#57. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 55


US
          

Yes, if the Tioga Road is open.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 06-Oct-11 02:29 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#43. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 38


Morro Bay, US
          

I forgot to add photo spots along the route for those traveling from Los Angeles:

First off, just aim to get out of LA as quick as possible.

For those not familiar with LA, looking at a highway map, the 405 freeway looks like an easy, straight shot up from LAX to Highway 5 out of LA. Don't do it. The 405 freeway from LAX until you get to the San Fernando Valley (intersection with Highway 101) is basically a parking lot. However, the alternatives are not much better, but certainly better. I would recommend taking the 105 freeway east from LAX to the 110 freeway north, all the way up through downtown (slow) and then Interstate 5 north. No matter what, you will hit traffic. Just expect it and go with it.

Once you get on the 5 freeway, you want to take the 14 freeway (Antelope Valley Freeway) north toward Highway 395. Once you hit Palmdale/Lancaster, it will be traffic free the rest of the way.

Sights to see:
- It's not easily visible, but at the Mojave airport (Highway 14 & 58 junction) is the airplane graveyard, where hundreds of jumbo jets are kept in perpetual dry storage in the dry desert climate. You'll see them off to the southeast after you pass through town. (Let me Google that for you: http://tinyurl.com/6hwtapx )

- Continuing on north on Highway 14, you will reach Red Rock Canyon State Park. Nice photos can be found here. Link: http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=631

After that, it's a long haul to Bishop. So get out of LA fast, enjoy the stops, then make it to Bishop.

-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
boblin Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2010Thu 06-Oct-11 05:39 AM
133 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#45. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 38


Lincoln, US
          

Michael,

I would be interested in the pre-workshop meet and dine provided I can get there in time. I would also be interested in the post-workshop if the opportunity arises.

Bob

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberThu 13-Oct-11 12:29 PM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#60. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 45


Carmel, US
          

Bob,

I did not see any reply to your suggestion for a pre-workshop meeting/dinner.

I'll be in Bishop the afternoon of the 19th. If there is an interest, we could meet at the parking lot opposite the bakery at 7:00 p.m. local time and find a place for a sit-down dinner meeting. Maybe Mike could get some of the workshop preliminaries done at that time and we could get out shooting sooner on the 20th.

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
jricca Registered since 19th Feb 2011Thu 13-Oct-11 02:36 PM
5 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#61. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 60


Martinez, US
          

That works for me.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 02:38 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#62. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 61


US
          

I'm in as well. How do we recognize each other?

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberThu 13-Oct-11 07:09 PM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#73. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 62


Carmel, US
          

I have a Nikon cap (used tio have a Nikonians cap but lost it). I was thinking if we make it a point to have some kind of Nikon/Nikonians gear visible we should be able to to bump into each other.


Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 07:18 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#74. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 73


US
          

I'll wear my TranquilPhotos.com hat and probably shirt (both black).

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Tue 11-Oct-11 08:22 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#56. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 0


San Francisco, US
          

Re: GPS unit usage

Hello colleagues:

Do you guys all use GPS units with your cameras to be able to re-find that fantastic shooting spot 3 years from now?

If so, can anyone recommend a reasonably-priced unit that can be used with D7000/D90?

TIA.

Regards..

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
david_mathre Platinum Member Nikonian since 23rd Nov 2006Wed 12-Oct-11 12:20 PM
530 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#58. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 56
Thu 13-Oct-11 06:58 PM by david_mathre

Skillman, US
          

I don’t have experience with GPS units for the D90 or D7000, but my recommendation is not to have one connected to the camera. I’ve used several GPS units (different manufactures) with D300, D700, and D3 series camera bodies. All of the GPS units ended up not being very rugged, had non-replaceable batteries that died, and one even caused a circuit board in a D3x to burn out (while on a workshop with Michael). I now carry a hand-held GPS that tracks my location, and just make sure that the camera’s clock is synchronized. The other advantage with the hand-held GPS units is that they have much better antennas. Some smart phones can also do this for you. When I download the images from the camera, I’ll add in the GPS data. This is pretty easy with PhotoMechanic, and pretty sure that it can be done with other software. I know it is an extra step, but I’m not going to risk a camera again. Others experiences may differ.
DJM

"Images of the Day" PhotoBlog
My Nikonians Gallery
ShepArtPhotography Gallery

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Wed 12-Oct-11 12:50 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#59. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 58


US
          

I'm going to agree with David. I would never put a GPS unit on my body either. It just isn't worth the 5 seconds it takes to add it after. As usual "there is an app for that" is a simpler cheaper way to do it.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 03:25 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
"RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"


Saddle river, US
          

What app would you use? I'm not familiar with how you would automatically add this data after the fact.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 03:25 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#63. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 59


Saddle river, US
          

What app would you use? I'm not familiar with how you would automatically add this data after the fact.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
rbaskin Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2007Thu 13-Oct-11 04:00 PM
338 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#65. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 63


Ridgefield, US
          

Take a look at gps4cam. iPhone and Android. Some pretty good reviews, $2.99, I think for iPhone.

gps4cam

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 06:42 PM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#72. "RE: Offical 2011 Eastern Sierra/Owens Valley FAQ/Q&A"
In response to Reply # 65


US
          

I use the same app. I take a picture with my touch and later on when I get home I sync the metadata from the phone picture with my other pictures from that location via Lightroom's metadata copy-n-paste or sync.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 13-Oct-11 03:59 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#64. "7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 0


Morro Bay, US
          

One week from today, we will be out at our first locations in the Eastern Sierra.

A couple of updates:


WEATHER:
All the roads are open over the Sierra Nevada range, including Tioga Pass. All those who are interested in visiting the "Secret Spot" post-workshop can include that in their plans. Forecast for the next 10 days calls for sun with high temperatures in the high 70s and lows in the high 30s. Not too bad. Of course, this is a long-range forecast and the weather can change, and the weather in the Sierra Nevada can change dramatically, from warm temps to snow the next day. I strongly recommend everyone check the weather forecast for Bishop, CA on Tuesday or Wednesday.


TRAVEL:
Thank you to everyone for providing me with your travel details.

As for carpooling to/from Bishop, there are five of you coming from the Bay Area, and a few of you have expressed interest in sharing a vehicle. Here is everyone coming from the Bay Area

Roger W. (relishguy) - San Francisco
Pete G. (PeteG - San Rafael
Bob W. (boblin) - Sacramento (I know, not the Bay Area)
John R. (jricca) - Martinez
Enrico M. (Enny) - San Leandro

I'm hoping that between the five of you, we can reduce the vehicle count down to a smaller number.

There are five people coming in from Vegas (four flying, one driving):
Aram M. (aram535) - flying
Donald D. (Penobdon) - flying
Eric B. (ebophoto) - flying
Alf M (ebophoto) - flying
Ken M. (kenm99) - driving

Eric and Alf have rented a car (they say it's a tiny one), but perhaps all of you can somehow coordinate to drop the vehicle count (and rental car costs) down as well.

David H. (haysys) and his wife are driving in long-distance from the Pacific Northwest.

Finally, there is the East Coast contingent that is flying into LAX and out of SFO as a group:
Todd J. (tojack1776)
Scott A. (sabbey51)
Ralph B. (rbaskin)
Noah B. (ncbaskin)

So I am really hoping the Bay Area group and the Las Vegas group can arrange carpools. For the Bay Area group, I believe most of the group planned to head over Tioga Pass to the secret spot. That might play in the carpool discussions.


PRE-WORKSHOP MEET-&-DINE
The discussion just began in the forum here about meeting up in advance of the workshop on Wednesday evening. Aram, Bob, Don and John look like they are planning on the get together.

Not to say this is how it needs to be done ... in the past, the location has traditionally been at the Whiskey Creek restaurant right where all of our hotels are located (north end of town), as they have a large, covered outdoor patio with large tables.

The good meeting time has typically been 6:00pm, allowing for late-comers to town to join post-meal, if so desired. In the past, the group has simply asked the hostess to direct anyone coming asking for "the photography group" to be sent to the table.

If you are interested in going to the meet-&-dine, please post a reply here. Understand that not everyone can make it as some will be arriving later in the evening (myself included), so there will be no workshop prep done that evening. I will try and stop by later in the evening if everyone is still there.

If someone can be point person on this to take charge, I would appreciate it.


WRAP-UP:
So that does it. Please be sure to read this forum post in its entirety from top to bottom - as well as the workshop description and any emails I have sent - to make sure you didn't miss anything in regards to prep, photo gear needs, non-photo gear requirements, etc. If you have any questions, let me know.

See everyone in one week!

Cheers,
Michael



____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
jricca Registered since 19th Feb 2011Thu 13-Oct-11 04:21 PM
5 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#66. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 64


Martinez, US
          

Wednesday, 6 pm at Whiskey Creek works for me. Also, Michael, I'm not clear on whether the Secret Spot post-workshop is Sunday afternoon or on Monday; please clarify. Thanks.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 13-Oct-11 04:35 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#68. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 66


Morro Bay, US
          

John,

The secret spot location post-workshop is on Sunday late afternoon/early evening, wrapping when darkness falls.

The workshop wraps Sunday at Noon. The Yosemite-bound group for the secret spot will head out immediately, grabbing lunch on the way as we head over Tioga Pass and through Yosemite. Depending on vehicle traffic over Tioga Pass, we will stop for photos along the way if time allows. The Secret Spot is located at the south end of the park, near Wawona, on Highway 41.

-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Enny Registered since 18th Nov 2009Thu 13-Oct-11 05:05 PM
34 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#69. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 68


US
          

That's quite a detour to get to the secret spot. It'll take close to 4hours to get to the Bay Area from there. Probably Hwy41 South to Madera and then Hwy99 North will be the fastest way to get to the Bay Area. Depending on where you go in the BayArea you'll take then Hwy152 West or Hwy 120/I205West.

@Roger, Pete, Bob and John:
when are you heading to Bishop and when are you planing on returning home?
I'll leave Wednesday after work and return home Sunday (have to work on Monday).
If you leave/return the same date/time we could meet in Yosemite Valley and leave the car there (if Tiago Road remains open until Sunday for sure and the Park Ranger allow parking there for a few days).


Enrico

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Thu 13-Oct-11 05:26 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#70. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 69


Morro Bay, US
          

>That's quite a detour to get to the secret spot. It'll take
>close to 4hours to get to the Bay Area from there. Probably
>Hwy41 South to Madera and then Hwy99 North will be the fastest
>way to get to the Bay Area. Depending on where you go in the
>BayArea you'll take then Hwy152 West or Hwy 120/I205West.


For the Bay Area-bound folk going to the Secret Spot, it is about four hours. I would recommend planning on Hwy. 41 south from Yosemite to Oakhurst, Hwy. 49 over to Mariposa, then Hwy. 140 out to Merced and Hwy. 99 up to Manteca, to hop on the 120/205/580 west route. (Sunday evenings have a lot of traffic on the Oakhurst to Fresno route, hence the Mariposa route.)

Travel time from Wawona to Manteca: 2.5 hours
Travel time from Manteca to SFO: 1.25 hours

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
jricca Registered since 19th Feb 2011Thu 13-Oct-11 05:39 PM
5 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#71. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 69


Martinez, US
          

I'll be leaving Martinez Wednesday morning, going to Bishop via Tioga Pass (Route120), stopping to stop along the way. I was planning to stay in Bishop Sunday night to do more shooting Monday morning, but because the Secret Spot is near Wawona, I may just come home Sunday evening after shooting there.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
PeteG Gold Member Nikonian since 06th Jun 2008Sat 15-Oct-11 06:03 PM
106 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#80. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 69


San Rafael, US
          

My Plan is to leave Wednesday morning and come back Sunday after the post workshop shooting in Wawona.

Haven't picked a route yet, and the two choices I was considering were from Lake Tahoe via 88/89/395 (if I decide to get up to my vacation home ahead of time to pick something up), or the 120/395 route from Manteca.

I would like to get there Wednesday late PM for the meet and dine, plus I'd just rather not get there any later since its a haul from the Bay Area.

Pete
My Photos

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
kenm99 Gold Member Nikonian since 04th Nov 2008Thu 13-Oct-11 11:05 PM
15 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#76. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 66


Las Vegas, US
          

I plan to be at Whiskey Creek at 6:00 Pm on Wednesday.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
jricca Registered since 19th Feb 2011Thu 13-Oct-11 11:20 PM
5 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#77. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 76


Martinez, US
          

Whisky Creek at 6 works for me. They have a decent wine list which we can try while we wait for the 6:30 crowd. We early birds will try to reserve a table for all of us.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberFri 14-Oct-11 01:27 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#78. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 77


Carmel, US
          

I'll make every effort to be there for 6:00. Gee, whisky creek....what happens if I order a sasperilla?

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
haysys Registered since 12th Apr 2007Thu 13-Oct-11 04:28 PM
127 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#67. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 64


Sammamish, US
          

Hi All,

Roger on Wednesday, 6:00 PM, Whiskey Creek.


Cheers!!

David Hays
http://artis.com

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
boblin Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2010Thu 13-Oct-11 07:30 PM
133 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#75. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 67
Thu 13-Oct-11 09:20 PM by boblin

Lincoln, US
          

Roger,Enrico,Pete,John,Don,Aram,& David,

As I stated earlier, I would be interested in a meet and dine on Wed. evening. I have some things to do near Tahoe so will be driving solo but I would be interested in meeting at Whiskey Creek as Michael suggested. I know that I can make it by 6:30.

Michael's suggestion would work if the first person arriving asks the hostess to set up the outdoor patio for the photography group since more may come.

I will not be leaving until Mon., Oct. 24th but I don't think that I will go on the post shoot since I will be driving back up 395.

Who is in for Whiskey Creek at 6:30-7:00 on Oct. 19?

Didn't mean to shove aside the 6:00 time that some are interested in. I will make it when I can.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberSat 15-Oct-11 12:46 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#79. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 75


Carmel, US
          

We'll save a seat for you. You may miss the appitizer, though!

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
PeteG Gold Member Nikonian since 06th Jun 2008Sat 15-Oct-11 06:07 PM
106 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#81. "RE: 7-Day Countdown for Eastern Sierra"
In response to Reply # 75


San Rafael, US
          

I hope to be there b/4 6 PM, so hopefully we can get a large enough table to accommodate everyone that plans to show up.

Pete
My Photos

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sun 16-Oct-11 05:33 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#82. "RE: Eastern Sierra Fall Colors"
In response to Reply # 0


Morro Bay, US
          

One week from today, we will be in the final run for photographs in the area around Bishop Creek. While this region is stunning in and of itself, one aspect that I don't really talk about in the workshop description or forum thread is the fall colors as, while I do my best to plan the ideal 4-day window, it is impossible to guess when fall colors will be at peak — a full year out when I schedule the workshop!

Well, this year I think we hit the gold mine. As in lots of hues of gold, yellow and red as the area is just hitting peak colors.

Now, you East Coast folks will laugh at what we call fall colors, but in a California that has four seasons (fire, flood, earthquake and drought), that flash of color in the dramatic granite mountains really adds a little kick to the photos.

Take a look at the fall colors report below that has some teaser pictures of the area we will be roaming around ... one week from today.

http://parchersresort.net/FallColors.htm


-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Sun 16-Oct-11 05:34 PM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#83. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun 16-Oct-11 05:38 PM by mmariant

Morro Bay, US
          

If someone will spearhead the meet & dine, and post a round-up here in the forum of who will be attending, as well as be point-person at the restaurant, I will give the restaurant a heads-up.

Thanks!

-M

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
rbaskin Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2007Tue 18-Oct-11 02:01 AM
338 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#84. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 83


Ridgefield, US
          

The East Coast contingent (Todd, Scott, Ralph & Noah) doesn't get into LAX until 2:45, so dinner would be out for us, but maybe late dessert or after-dinner drink. OTW, see you in the AM.

Ralph in CT

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
jricca Registered since 19th Feb 2011Tue 18-Oct-11 04:31 AM
5 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#85. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 83


Martinez, US
          

Michael

I'll be glad to spearhead the meet & dine (& drink). So, far I have 8 of us (9 if you will be there):

Moi
Roger
Aram535
Boblin
Penobdon
Haysys
kenm99
Pete G

Roger and I should be arriving in Bishop early Wed afternoon, so we'll be at Whisky Creek on or before 6 p.m.

Anyone else planning to join us??? Please let me know.

John

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberWed 19-Oct-11 02:21 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#87. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 85


Carmel, US
          

John,

Good job.

I arrived in Vegas after a near connection miss in Memphis. Flying across country is no fun. So, Whisky Creek better live up to it's name (or at least what it's name implies).

I'll be in Bishop Wednesday afternoon and look forward to meeting you all.

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Wed 19-Oct-11 03:45 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#88. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 87


Morro Bay, US
          

As Aram as alluded to, be prepared for a long drive to Bishop, regardless of where you are coming from (unfortunately, no one is flying into the Mammoth Airport). I do believe that Bishop is the most difficult city in California to get to. Not by distance, but just that you have to go around those big Sierra Nevada mountains!

See everyone tomorrow (hopefully)!

Safe travels.

Cheers,
Michael

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberWed 19-Oct-11 03:59 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#90. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 88


Carmel, US
          

OK, I am now seriously confused.

"See everyone tomorrow (hopefully)!"

I left Bangor Maine Tuesday October 18 and arrived Las Vegas Nevada (USA) roughtly 4:30 in the PM local time same day (Oct 18).

Mike, are you going to be in Bishop on 19 October.....

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Wed 19-Oct-11 04:12 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#91. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 90


Morro Bay, US
          

>OK, I am now seriously confused.
>
>"See everyone tomorrow (hopefully)!"
>
>I left Bangor Maine Tuesday October 18 and arrived Las Vegas
>Nevada (USA) roughtly 4:30 in the PM local time same day (Oct
>18).
>
>Mike, are you going to be in Bishop on 19 October.....
>
>Don Darling, Jr


Yes, myself and Joe Johnston (the second instructor) will be arriving in Bishop tomorrow (Wednesday) evening. We hope to make it in time for the meet and dine, but it will be questionable - and why I'm not organizing it. Most likely will be there around 7:00 - 7:30p.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberWed 19-Oct-11 04:18 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#92. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 91


Carmel, US
          

Wicked!

I suppose you can be there for dessert or the dessert coctail. A warm seat should await you!

Don
Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
sabbey51 Gold Member Nikonian since 10th Jan 2010Tue 25-Oct-11 04:35 PM
562 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#93. "Sad it's over ..."
In response to Reply # 92


Saddle river, US
          

Everyone:

It was just great to meet and shoot with all of you. We got home back here in the east last night, and I slept well last night - Mike, you just kept us running for four long days.

I was able to view my images on the plane and I have to say the keep rate is phenomenal - there's not a location we were at that I didn't get at least one keeper. Thanks, Mike.

Scott

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
relishguy Registered since 29th Oct 2009Tue 25-Oct-11 05:29 PM
19 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#94. "Roger's headlines"
In response to Reply # 93


San Francisco, US
          

bootcamp schedule was tough

workshop leadership was superb

attendees were of the highest caliber

Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                    
Penobdon Silver Member Charter MemberWed 26-Oct-11 02:00 AM
28 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#95. "RE: Roger's headlines"
In response to Reply # 94


Carmel, US
          

I echo the sentiments (or how ever that word is spelled). Were I to do this again I'd come out two days earlier to be in better shape from my flight from the start.

I think the day length was fine.

Mike and Joe conducted themselves very well, and the way they handled the workshop was excellent.

Mike clearly put a lot of effort into selecting locations and knew the timing of when to be there very well.

Worth every penny, and then some!

I have an off the wall suggestion. Much of what was interest to me was the geology of this region (being an easterner). Wouldn't it be cool to have a geologist along to be along for a day or part of a day to lend insight to how that area became what it is???

It would incur additional cost, but would add meaningfull content to the workshop...I did say it was 'off the wall'.

Don Darling, Jr

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                        
mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Wed 26-Oct-11 03:36 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#96. "RE: Roger's headlines"
In response to Reply # 95


Morro Bay, US
          

>I have an off the wall suggestion. Much of what was interest
>to me was the geology of this region (being an easterner).
>Wouldn't it be cool to have a geologist along to be along for
>a day or part of a day to lend insight to how that area became
>what it is???

Don,

I wish I had known you desired that! I have taken several geology courses of the Sierra Nevada range as part of my natural history studies to supplement the workshop instruction. I did share tidbits here and there, more so with those in the car while traveling to help pass the time!

Especially with the vast volcanic influence that Mammoth Mountain has had on the Eastern Sierra region, that additional information I'm sure would have provided that extra perspective.

This USGS report provides an excellent background on the volcanic history. You will quickly recognize some of our workshop locations on the map!

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs108-96/

When we were traveling to/from Mono Lake, we passed a large lake and open space on the east side of the highway, called Lake Crowley. This is the Long Valley Caldera referenced in the above report.

Also, an interesting geographic tidbit is that Mono Lake and the Mono Basin is the western-most portion of the Great Basin, that stretches from Mono Lake all the way to Salt Lake City. No rivers or lakes in this area drain to the ocean or gulf; all water either evaporates out of vast sinks or contained in small lakes with high salinity, such as Mono Lake and the Great Salt Lake. This region also includes Death Valley.

Hope you find the above information interesting. And, trust me, I could've talked your ear off about the natural history of the area. (Did you know that the Mono tribe was named after the fly larvae that they would dry and grind up as a mush to cook with? Yep, they ate breads cooked out of maggots!)

Cheers,
Michael


____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
aram535 Registered since 24th Sep 2010Wed 19-Oct-11 01:33 AM
14 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#86. "RE:Meet & Dine"
In response to Reply # 83


US
          

Just checking in. I have arrived after a VERY long drive.

Visit my Nikonians gallery.

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mmariant Team Member Expert photography teacher Nikonian since 21st Jun 2008Wed 19-Oct-11 03:50 AM
676 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#89. "RE: Weather forecast"
In response to Reply # 0


Morro Bay, US
          




I like how Saturday isn't just Sunny... it's abundantly sunny!

So it doesn't look like we will have clouds, which is not great for landscapes, but excellent for the astrophotography.

Note the overnight lows. Some of our morning and evening locations are at high altitude. The actual temps will be considerably lower than the temps posted above for Bishop. In other words, have a good insulated jacket.

____________________________
Michael A. Mariant
Nikonians Academy Faculty
Master Your Vision Workshops

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Silversmith Registered since 15th Sep 2007Thu 27-Oct-11 03:23 AM
41 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#97. "Post Workshop Alpenglow"
In response to Reply # 0


Sammamish, US
          

Hi

David and I are back in Bishop tonight after spending three nights in Yosemite (our hotel was just south of Wawona). We explored some parts of the valley that we hadn't seen before and spent another late afternoon along the Merced--couldn't stay away.

We're putting the lessons we learned in the workshop to good use: we've been out shooting every day, though not for sunrise. We drove back over Tioga Pass today because there were a number of places we saw on the way over that we wanted to come back to shoot. We're headed to Death Valley tomorrow.

Thanks for a great workshop, Michael. This is the second time I've worked with "sunny sixteen" and this time it really made sense. I now know that I am smarter than my camera....

It was a pleasure to spend time shooting with all the workshop participants. I'm hopeful that our paths will cross again!

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's images!

Best,
Joan

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Silversmith Registered since 15th Sep 2007Thu 27-Oct-11 03:24 AM
41 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#98. "Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu 27-Oct-11 03:36 AM by Silversmith

Sammamish, US
          

Hi Everyone,

David and I are back in Bishop tonight after spending three nights in Yosemite (our hotel was just south of Wawona). We explored some parts of the valley that we hadn't seen before and spent another late afternoon along the Merced--couldn't stay away.

We're putting the lessons we learned in the workshop to good use: we've been out shooting every day, though not for sunrise. We drove back over Tioga Pass today because there were a number of places we saw on the way over that we wanted to come back to shoot. We're headed to Death Valley tomorrow.

Thanks for a great workshop, Michael. This is the second time I've worked with "sunny sixteen" and this time it really made sense. I now know that I am smarter than my camera....

It was a pleasure to spend time shooting with all the workshop participants. I'm hopeful that our paths will cross again!

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's images!

Best,
Joan

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Silversmith Registered since 15th Sep 2007Thu 27-Oct-11 03:25 AM
41 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#99. "Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu 27-Oct-11 03:38 AM by Silversmith

Sammamish, US
          

Hi Everyone,

David and I are back in Bishop tonight after spending three nights in Yosemite (our hotel was just south of Wawona). We explored some parts of the valley that we hadn't seen before and spent another late afternoon along the Merced--couldn't stay away.

We're putting the lessons we learned in the workshop to good use: we've been out shooting every day, though not for sunrise. We drove back over Tioga Pass today because there were a number of places we saw on the way over that we wanted to come back to shoot. We're headed to Death Valley tomorrow.

Thanks for a great workshop, Michael. This is the second time I've worked with "sunny sixteen" and this time it really made sense. I now know that I am smarter than my camera....

It was a pleasure to spend time shooting with all the workshop participants. I'm hopeful that our paths will cross again!

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's images!

Best,
Joan

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Silversmith Registered since 15th Sep 2007Thu 27-Oct-11 03:25 AM
41 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#100. "Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu 27-Oct-11 03:36 AM by Silversmith

Sammamish, US
          

Hi Everyone,

David and I are back in Bishop tonight after spending three nights in Yosemite (our hotel was just south of Wawona). We explored some parts of the valley that we hadn't seen before and spent another late afternoon along the Merced--couldn't stay away.

We're putting the lessons we learned in the workshop to good use: we've been out shooting every day, though not for sunrise. We drove back over Tioga Pass today because there were a number of places we saw on the way over that we wanted to come back to shoot. We're headed to Death Valley tomorrow.

Thanks for a great workshop, Michael. This is the second time I've worked with "sunny sixteen" and this time it really made sense. I now know that I am smarter than my camera....

It was a pleasure to spend time shooting with all the workshop participants. I'm hopeful that our paths will cross again!

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's images!

Best,
Joan

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Silversmith Registered since 15th Sep 2007Thu 27-Oct-11 03:27 AM
41 posts Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Linkedin    Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profile
#101. "Post Workshop Alpenglow -- Sorry... Duplicate"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu 27-Oct-11 03:37 AM by Silversmith

Sammamish, US
          

Hi Everyone,

David and I are back in Bishop tonight after spending three nights in Yosemite (our hotel was just south of Wawona). We explored some parts of the valley that we hadn't seen before and spent another late afternoon along the Merced--couldn't stay away.

We're putting the lessons we learned in the workshop to good use: we've been out shooting every day, though not for sunrise. We drove back over Tioga Pass today because there were a number of places we saw on the way over that we wanted to come back to shoot. We're headed to Death Valley tomorrow.

Thanks for a great workshop, Michael. This is the second time I've worked with "sunny sixteen" and this time it really made sense. I now know that I am smarter than my camera....

It was a pleasure to spend time shooting with all the workshop participants. I'm hopeful that our paths will cross again!

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's images!

Best,
Joan

  

Alert Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Forums Lobby TRAVEL & GETTING TOGETHER FORUMS Nikonians Academy NA Workshops (Public) topic #1271 Previous topic | Next topic


Take the Nikonians Tour and learn more about being a Nikonian Wiki /FAQ /Help Listen to our MP3 photography radio channels Find anything on Nikon and imaging technology - fast!

Copyright © Nikonians 2000, 2014
All Rights Reserved

Nikonians®, NikoScope® and NikoniansAcademy™ are trademarks owned by Nikonians.org.
Nikon®, Nikonos® and Nikkor® are registered trademarks of Nikon Corporation.