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socalmatt Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Jul 2010Sun 10-Nov-13 09:25 PM
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"capture nx who is using ?"


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i am curious as to how many are using capture nx and what advantages it gives over photoshop cs6 and dxo 8 , i realize some in camera settings are not seen by other software but does that matter ?
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jimduke59 Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Oct 2013Mon 11-Nov-13 01:24 AM
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I went to the Nikon school this weekend in Houston and they discussed this. I was trying to decide how to set up my workflow as I'm new to digital world. Other post had me considering Lightroom but I am reconsidering. Seems like it should be easier to use Capture and retain the in camera choices around picture control. I think there may be some features around Active D lighting that are only in Capture.

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dmonett Gold Member Nikonian since 11th Dec 2013Mon 27-Jan-14 12:25 AM
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#13. "HDR photography with Capture NX 2?"
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Huntsville, CA
          

When you went to the Nikon school, did they mention about the
possibility of doing HDR photography with Capture NX2?



>I went to the Nikon school this weekend in Houston and
they
>discussed this. I was trying to decide how to set up my
>workflow as I'm new to digital world. Other post had me
>considering Lightroom but I am reconsidering. Seems like
it
>should be easier to use Capture and retain the in camera
>choices around picture control. I think there may be some
>features around Active D lighting that are only in
Capture.

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jrp Administrator JRP is one of the co-founders, has in-depth knowledge in various areas. Awarded for his contributions for the Resources Charter MemberMon 11-Nov-13 01:29 AM
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Despite of great advances in Lightroom latest version, Capture NX2 remains the only imaging software that can faithfully understand and show exactly what you camera took. More so when shooting RAW and at 14-bits color depth.

Can other software reproduce that? Yes, however -in my personal experience- only after a lot of tweaking and having to trust your memory on how it was.

The only other software that I've tested myself and allows for reproduction of the most delicate colors and tones that Capture NX2 shows is Picture Code's Photo Ninja.

As for members at large, we do have many loyal users of Capture NX2, while others rely solely on Photoshop (CS6) and are very happy.
In smaller numbers but equally happy are users of Phase One's Capture One 7 Pro and DXO.

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Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009Mon 11-Nov-13 05:16 AM
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> "the only imaging software that can faithfully understand and show exactly what you camera took"

As far as I can understand, the benefit of a program's ability to read all the in-camera settings depend on whether the photographer wants to make most of the settings before the shot or after it. Naturally, there are a number of settings that have to be right, or at least reasonably close to right, before taking the shot. But then there are settings that can be made equally well before or after the shot. This group of settings includes everything that does not directly affect the captured photosite readings but are only directions for post processing, such as white balance, sharpening or color profile.

The question for me is, what is the best time to make these adjustments? Before the shot, when you're stalking a wild animal and hoping it to do something interesting? Or after the shot when I have all the time in the world to try various settings and see how they come out?

Think of white balance, for instance. If I wanted to create a jpg photo that looks exactly like the one that the camera took, I don't have to do anything. The camera takes the jpg photo for me. But if the question concerns a raw photo with a given WB setting, the camera doesn't "take" one. Instead the camera stores the captured photosite values and attaches the WB reading as instructions for post-processing.


What about all the other adjustments we haven't discussed yet? Like contrast, shadows, highlights, clarity, saturation, etc? There are no in-camera settings for these. Why would I spend time to adjust the in-camera settings that are there, if I intend to adjust a dozen settings that can't be set in the camera?

Overall, the ability of NX2 to reproduce a few in-camera settings has no value for me, and its few advantages over LR (eg a marginal ability to correct longitudinal chromatic aberration) do not compensate for its weaknesses.

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gaston Silver Member Nikonian since 26th May 2006Mon 11-Nov-13 06:31 AM
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I use lightroom for cataloging, Photoshop for straightening and cropping, and capture nx2 for getting the most out of my raw files

  

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jamesvoortman Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Sep 2004Mon 11-Nov-13 04:20 PM
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Durban, ZA
          

I use CNX2.

Spent a lot of money on an advanced 3 day Lightroom course which taught me that CNX2 can mostly do the same stuff using less memory, including presets and metadata on import (albeit with less user friendly interface).

The main advantage of CNX2 for me is as JRP pointed out - it retains all the additional settings and info written to the NEF file with the RAW data by the camera.

Another huge plus is the ease of using selection brushes and applying any effect to them. I regularly use selective tone, brightness and sharpening. The colour control points are also awesome - this is a tool you don't get in LR. Want to brighten the shaded eye socket of an animal or person - 4 clicks!

The things I wish it had :
1) layers and ability to blend them as per photoshop
2) clone stamp tool - the healing brush is sometimes not enough


When you are done, CNX2 saves the file as a NEF so all the changes are kept, original data is unaltered and reversible (even crops) with file size basically the same as original. Try that with an unflattened psd file

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jrp Administrator JRP is one of the co-founders, has in-depth knowledge in various areas. Awarded for his contributions for the Resources Charter MemberTue 12-Nov-13 05:22 AM
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San Pedro Garza García, MX
          

Custom Settings banks and the addition of Picture Controls is great in CNX2.
I need to get the image as complete and exact as possible in-camera, because I don't have all the time in the world afterwards for post-processing.

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Knoxville, US
          

I use Capture NX2 to adjust my RAW files. The Color Points provide me with great control over color and contrast in very small or large areas, or even for specific colors only. Plus, I can use the camera's Picture Controls in a similar way I used to switch between films for a certain look, even after the fact.

Once I have the RAW file manipulated fully, I save the file as a TIFF and open it in Photoshop CS6 for final postprocessing (e.g., defect removal, final sharpening).

I think it is worth the time to learn the more difficult user interface of Capture NX 2. It gives me maximum control over my images.




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greenhorn Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2007Fri 15-Nov-13 02:26 PM
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I've always used NX for Nikon digital. I've recently migrated to a D800 .

I've tried most of the other apps but the lure of the in-camera adjustments is just too great. For RAW adjustments NX is just too good.

I get frustrated by some of the flakiness of NX but the truth is the pictures just look better.

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Nikonian since 05th May 2002Fri 15-Nov-13 11:33 PM
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Fri 15-Nov-13 11:34 PM by walkerr

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I used Capture NX2 a long time ago and while I liked it then, I moved on to Lightroom/ACR and don't regret it. The image quality is at least as good, if not better, and the equivalent of control points is more powerful. Combine that with more automated sharpening, printing, book production, GPS tagging, much faster batch editing, automated and non-destructive perspective correction - it isn't even close for me. Since I never personally cared for adjusting Picture Control settings on my camera in the field (faster and more accurate on a big computer display), that's no loss for me.

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greenhorn Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2007Mon 18-Nov-13 09:39 AM
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GB
          

I find the camera adjustments in NX2 a useful learning tool. Shooting in RAW allows you to alter the picture control in NX2 and find the optimum exposure, contrast etc.

With practise you can learn to recognise the optimum settings before you take the picture. This allows you to shoot Jpegs which look right straight out of the camera and RAW shots which need little or no(if you're lucky) post processing.

Of course it means you're stuck with NX2 and it's well documented shortcomings but I find it's a price worth paying.

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Nikonian since 05th May 2002Mon 18-Nov-13 09:45 AM
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It's a good way to learn to shoot jpegs better, but I'd prefer to shoot raw better.

Rick Walker

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Sat 23-Nov-13 01:45 PM
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Atlanta, US
          

I use Capture NX2 - and have for years. My experience level is probably expert, but I am still picking up new techniques.

A couple of years ago our Atlanta Nikonians group did a side by side comparison of Lightroom and Capture NX2. Our conclusion was that either tool could handle 95-98% of our editing needs. Both tools had gaps and areas where they had advantages.

The challenge with Capture NX2 is that it has not had a major upgrade in some time, and its future is uncertain. In contrast, Lightroom continues to evolve and improve.

I use Color Efex 3.0 which operates within Capture NX2.

I also have a number of other products that are part of my overall toolkit. Those products include View NX2, Photo Mechanic, Color Efex 4.0, Silver Efex Pro, and Photoshop CS6.

If you are interested in Photoshop, it's hard not to take the Creative Cloud approach. There is a promotion until December 2 providing CS6 and Lightroom 5 for $9.99 per month. For some LR and CS owners, the promotion runs until the end of December. The future of LR as a stand alone vs. the cloud is uncertain, but Adobe's general approach with CS6 and other programs is to move to a cloud only model. LR and Elements are excluded right now, but they might be included in the future.

If I were starting from scratch today, I'd probably go with the Adobe products unless I had a compelling reason to do otherwise. Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop represent the standard for the industry with more classes, training, and plugins than any other products.

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