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FrankL0 Silver Member  Letchworth Garden City, UK  Nikonian since 30th Jan 2011 Sun 27-Oct-13 01:08 PM
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"Which should I use...?"



OnOne Photo Suite 8, Photomatix, Google Nik Collection, PT Lens, which to get is my dilemma.

Things I immediately need are:
- to correct barrel and/or pin cushion distortion
- HDR

.... but my needs will presumably grow as I discover more and more features available in these packages and I want something that will grow with me as my experience increases.

Oh, and I use Aperture3 on my iMac for PP at present.

Thoughts and ideas much appreciated. Many thanks.

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Reply message RE: Which should I use...? esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian.
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Reply message RE: Which should I use...? FrankL0 Silver Member
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Reply message RE: Which should I use...? nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support
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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian.   McAllen, US  Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002 Sun 27-Oct-13 01:29 PM
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Any one of those programs/plug-ins are a good choice. OnOne is just about to release their latest version Photo Suite 8 (November 2013) so you might want to look at getting the latest version. Of all your choices Photo Suite and Nik Collection offer the most tools. PT Lens is a great little program but beyond distortion correction it doesn't do much else. For the low price it should be a consideration since programs that focus on one task are usually very good at what they do. As far as HDR processing I use Oloneo PhotoEngine, Nik HDR Efex Pro, and Photomatix - in this order of preference. If you are after natural looking HDR all three can deliver but I would have to say that Oloneo and Nik are the easiest to accomplish.

Ernesto Santos
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FrankL0 Silver Member  Letchworth Garden City, UK  Nikonian since 30th Jan 2011 Sun 27-Oct-13 02:15 PM
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Very many thanks Ornesto. You meme some interesting and valid points.

I did not know the Oloneo product but see that it is only available for Windows - and I work on on OSX (iMac) platform.

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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian.   McAllen, US  Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002 Sun 27-Oct-13 02:32 PM
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Yes, that's true, Oloneo does not currently offer a version for Mac.

Ernesto Santos
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ajdooley Gold Member  Waterloo, US  Nikonian since 25th May 2006 Sun 03-Nov-13 10:33 PM
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Danger: I had the NIK Google collection installed and last mid week, when I went to open CS6 to work on some images with Viveza 2, I was unable to do so. And... the entire NIK collection was GONE. I eventually got CS6 to open, but several tries met with a message that a file was missing, making CS6 inoperative. The file was ID'd as "MSVCP110.dll."

On perusing the NIK Google site, they acknowledge the problem and tell you it is easy to fix. Only it's not easy enough for me to fix! And why do I have it in the first place? I have an up to date CS6 (not CC) and HAD a good NIK collection. I use Windows 7.

Roll forward to contacting NIK/Google. Twenty minutes on hold. Email response? Nope.

The site also claims this came about during an upgrade (which I didn't ask for) and it doesn't affect everyone!

Lots of help! NOT! Do any Nikonians have any idea what is up?

Alan
Waterloo, IL, USA
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nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support   US  Registered since 25th Jul 2004 Sun 03-Nov-13 11:34 PM
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Sun 03-Nov-13 11:34 PM by nrothschild


Hi Alan,

If you do a google search on "MSVCP110.dll" you will see you are not alone. This is a Microsoft Visual C runtime library module, and most likely you need to reinstall NIK, maybe after uninstalling. Seems to be at least a few unhappy campers over this, and Google is not dealing with it well.

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ajdooley Gold Member  Waterloo, US  Nikonian since 25th May 2006 Mon 04-Nov-13 02:32 PM
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Thanks Neil - I won't have to uninstall NIK. It has disappeared! Google's idea of customer service should have the prefix "Dis" appended to it. I can send them en email and allegedly they will call back -- apparently when they get good and ready to. I was never under the impression that was how the telephone was supposed to work! I'll report back if I ever hear from them. I am NOT going to cough up $149 to buy it again though.

Alan
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Ineluki Gold Member  Nürnberg, DE  Nikonian since 03rd Aug 2011 Mon 04-Nov-13 02:52 PM
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>Thanks Neil - I won't have to uninstall NIK. It has
>disappeared! Google's idea of customer service should have
>the prefix "Dis" appended to it. I can send them en
>email and allegedly they will call back -- apparently when
>they get good and ready to. I was never under the impression
>that was how the telephone was supposed to work! I'll report
>back if I ever hear from them. I am NOT going to cough up
>$149 to buy it again though.

Hello Alan,

what about a new installation of NIK? Should be working

Egbert

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ajdooley Gold Member  Waterloo, US  Nikonian since 25th May 2006 Mon 04-Nov-13 05:06 PM
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I am relieved to report success. The trick is that you have to wait until Google is open -- in the US, that's not until 8:30 am, Pacific Time. After that, you can seek service, click on a request for them to call you, fill in 3 fields and wait. They called back in 2 minutes and sent me an email link. It all went well from there.

My issue could have been solved easily last week, but they aren't available on weekends! Hopefully this will successfully conclude this issue.

BTW, they did acknowledge that some people did have trouble with the updates they sent out to registered users -- it was just my turn!

Alan
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ajdooley Gold Member  Waterloo, US  Nikonian since 25th May 2006 Mon 04-Nov-13 11:16 PM
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One other tip -- if you want to talk to NIK-Google -- they receive requests for return phone calls between 8:30 am and 5 pm, Pacific Coast time. Unexplained, is if you try to email a request to talk to them before that time, there's no way to do so.

Alan
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FredB D3 Silver Member  Potomac, US  Nikonian since 26th Jun 2008 Tue 05-Nov-13 03:08 PM
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Hi Alan,

Great news that all went well, and I hope it continues to do so!

Just for future reference, and for others, I had a good experience with Google/NIK customer service. I had an old NIK suit that I had not used for awhile - probably through one or two generations of CS (I'm now on CC). I wanted it back (it didn't seem to want to become a plugin again). So I called Google/NIK, and I guess I hit the timing right. They checked my account history, and directed me where to download the (read their) latest version. It was "kind of like" - of course there will be no charge - you've already bought it. Needless to say, I was very pleased with the responsive outcome. All is working well.

Fred
Maryland, USA

  

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FrankL0 Silver Member  Letchworth Garden City, UK  Nikonian since 30th Jan 2011 Tue 05-Nov-13 04:17 PM
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Excuse me for pointing out gentlemen that, although it is most interesting and unfortunate to hear of difficulties that fellow Nikonians are having with Google NIK Collection, the original post I made on this thread was...

'OnOne Photo Suite 8, Photomatix, Google Nik Collection, PT Lens, which to get is my dilemma.'

I would still be grateful for any opinions among members on the relative merits of each of these to help me decide the direction to go in?

Perhaps a seperate thread is required for follow members to support each other with their issues with Google NIK Collection?

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ajdooley Gold Member  Waterloo, US  Nikonian since 25th May 2006 Tue 05-Nov-13 06:19 PM
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Tue 05-Nov-13 06:21 PM by ajdooley


Frank --

A thousand apologies... I guess I co-opted your thread.

Here's my observation of the NIK collection and OnOne's counterpart.

Now that I have recovered the NIK collection, and in as much as I have the onOne PS7, I find both very useful. I find the most use for NIK's Viveza2. It allows me to go in, for example, to pic out faces from a scene, or even part of a face and add warmth, brightness, etc., without having to bother with layers. I love the NIKpoint capability. OnOne's Resize (once called genuine fractals) is another favorite for upsizing decade-old digital images. Here, for example, I have gone back to hundred of images I shot in Iraq in 2003 with a Nikin D1X, that are 1-3mb and been able to "upsize" them to pretty presentable images for large (20x30") prints.

I also have Photomatix, but have not used it in so long that I hesitate to recommend.

I have no experience with PT lens.

If I was choosing today -- I'd grab the NIK collection first, followed by OnOne -- with Version 8 not here until later in November. I hope that starts to bring the thread back to where you intended it to go! Sorry!

BTW, I fully agree on the uselessness of minitripods. They're too short and fall over too easily!

Alan
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FredB D3 Silver Member  Potomac, US  Nikonian since 26th Jun 2008 Tue 05-Nov-13 06:28 PM
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Hi Frank,

Then are we to take it that you do not care about follow-on customer support (CS)? I believe most people would consider CS (or a lack of it) to be a relative merit, even if a secondary one, when comparing products.

Fred
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FrankL0 Silver Member  Letchworth Garden City, UK  Nikonian since 30th Jan 2011 Tue 05-Nov-13 09:10 PM
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No, you are not to take it that I don't care and your inference of such is a little inappropriate.

I made it clear that people's difficulties with Google CS is concerning and unfortunate.

I also suggested that it belonged in a seperate thread as it had become a diversion of attention away from the original intent of the thread I initiated.

I hope that has clarified the matter for you.

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