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netarc Registered since 16th May 2008Sun 28-Oct-12 12:37 AM
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"Is this too much processing before printing?"


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I'm finally getting around to going through pictures shot from our late 2011 trip to S. America, and had hoped to print out a 16x20 print of the iconic Machu Picchu shot.

I processed the following picture in LR (contrast +24, black -19, clarity +45, sat +10, lens correction) in an attempt to give the printed image more depth and a bit more color.

I'm new to playing around with LR develop settings, esp for landscapes, though, so I'm wondering if I may have gone overboard?

Would appreciate any advice/feedback re: how you think the processed version came out and might look when printed? Thank you!

original: http://www.flickr.com/photos/netarc/8125846401/in/set-72157631859514575/

retouched: http://www.flickr.com/photos/netarc/8125847863/in/set-72157631859514575/

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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian.
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mfphoto1 Registered since 29th Oct 2005Sun 28-Oct-12 02:05 AM
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The retouched one pops for me.

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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian. Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002Sun 28-Oct-12 02:25 AM
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I would ratchet back the Clarity setting, it looks a bit crunchy. Try something more on the order of +20 to 25.

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netarc Registered since 16th May 2008Sun 28-Oct-12 02:37 AM
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Thanks, I just did so, uploading the results now; I also applied "Sharpening" at 46 to give the city structure a little pop.

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Sun 04-Nov-12 09:38 PM
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To me, the "retouched" version looks like there is an unnatural level of detail. I do like the direction, but I'd back off the detail or midtone contrast a bit. It seems that every rock wall and tree has detail - and my eye finds it overly busy even on a computer monitor. Increasing size to 16x20 or so will make that detail even more apparent - and distracting.

It's a personal decision and will depend a bit on what paper you are using.

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walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 05th May 2002Sun 04-Nov-12 10:00 PM
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Definitely too much! If you're using LR4, keep in mind that the clarity slider has about double the strength it had before in LR3. A setting of 45 is what 90 used to be, and that's a lot for scenes like this. 20-25 is probably the most I would use for this shot. Stay away from the saturation slider and use vibrance instead; you'll be much less likely to push colors into the clipping range. Finally, use LR4's new softproofing feature to both see what an image will roughly look like when printed (assuming you have printer profiles installed) as well as creating a separate proof copy to which you can do mild edits to overcome a slight loss in contrast or color saturation. Again, that last item is best fixed with vibrance. Keep the saturation slider for graphic images rather than landscapes.

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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Mon 05-Nov-12 06:07 AM
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Would I be correct in assuming the retouching has been ratcheted back in response to previous suggestions? The processed version doesn’t seem overcooked to me.

Barry
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netarc Registered since 16th May 2008Mon 05-Nov-12 06:06 PM
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Yes, I had changed it per Ernesto's suggestions, and uploaded the new version; the comments from 11/4, though, must be referring to the new one?

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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Mon 05-Nov-12 06:16 PM
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What's there now looks fine to me.

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