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DavidSalahi Registered since 21st Sep 2011Tue 28-Feb-12 02:44 AM
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"Video Review of onOne Software's Perfect Mask"


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Just posted an in-depth video review of Perfect Mask 5, one of the apps in onOne Software's Perfect Photo Suite 6:
http://photoperformance.org/masking-and-selection-with-onone-softwares-perfect-mask/

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KenLPhotos Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Jul 2009Wed 29-Feb-12 02:23 PM
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#1. "RE: Video Review of onOne Software's Perfect Mask"
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Do we have to sign up to see it?

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DavidSalahi Registered since 21st Sep 2011Wed 29-Feb-12 03:39 PM
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Wed 29-Feb-12 03:40 PM by DavidSalahi

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>Do we have to sign up to see it?

No, KenL, anyone can view it. No sign-up is necessary.When you click the link you should be taken directly to the page with the review:
http://photoperformance.org/masking-and-selection-with-onone-softwares-perfect-mask/

When you get there you should see a video player with a photo of orchids below the introductory text. Just click the player to start viewing.

Please let me know if you have problems seeing it or playing it.

The review is also posted on YouTube (in two parts because of length restrictions) :

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFBENTIDXbI&context=C3093504ADOEgsToPDskJLGati6YYXeNbnJLy8IlCS

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-Ji0m-6jY&context=C3093504ADOEgsToPDskJLGati6YYXeNbnJLy8IlCS

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KenLPhotos Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Jul 2009Wed 29-Feb-12 05:04 PM
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The first link has a blank white area for the video but the youtube links work. Thanks.

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adangus Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Jan 2009Thu 01-Mar-12 02:35 PM
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Thanks for going through that. I have a similar impression of the latest update. Mask Pro was the first onOne product that I purchased and this latest update seems to have scr***d the pooch. For years, Mask Pro was my go-to product for complex masking; but this update has nothing on the built-in masking functions of Photoshop CS5 and 5.1. The critical function that they seem to have set aside was just the ability to mark the borders between the keep and drop areas with a brush or pen tool. Then you could go into the DMZ and use the keep and drop eyedroppers to use color selections and the magic brush to make your selections in some locale. You could then delete all those colors, move to a different area, select new more appropriate colors, and proceed in this way until done.

Now, there's no more static selection. No more ability to zoom in as necessary and improve the definition of a complex border. And the tools keep making the same mistakes over and over. There's no learning. It doesn't matter how many times you tell "Perfect Mask" that you want to keep some area or drop some area. It will drop your keep and keep your drop on its own whim.

The refine edge, refine mask, smart radius tools in CS5 are far better. Like the earlier versions of Mask Pro, you can exactly define the radius (DMZ) between what you want to keep and what you want to drop. Why the folks at onOne thought that they were smarter than their user's eyes and intent, I cannot figure out.

You gave a great example in your video: the orchid. One user might just want to extract the flowers. Another might want the flowers and the stem. By allowing each user to define and fix their initial keep and drop regions as desired, Mask Pro would let each proceed just to work on the borders. But Perfect Mask doesn't know or care about those two different design intents. It will work the same way with either model, and messes up each one over and over again.

I frankly don't get it and I've stopped using this. Maybe someone with onOne wants to either explain what we're missing or put the keep and drop brushes from Mask Pro back into Perfect Mask. The PPA magazine recently reviewed Perfect Mask and a few other similar tools; and they gave Perfect Mask good marks. I have to believe that all the excellent results that onOne shows in their product literature were actually completed with some other tool.

Bah humbug.

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gaperklake Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Mar 2007Fri 02-Mar-12 06:53 PM
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Hello Dave,

Thank you so much for the video... and all the work that went into it! Very well done.

I've not had much luck with three versions of Perfect Mask (I own the suite), and version 6.0.2 doesn't work well at all on my Lion OS Mac. Great to have this confirmation.

My best,

Guy

  

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