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DrJay32 Gold Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions for the Resources and eZine Nikonian since 12th Mar 2003Mon 16-Jun-08 09:46 PM
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"NX 2.0 Printing Tips"


Colorado Springs, US
          

I just returned from the Nikonians Academy Advance Workflow workshop where folks were printing with NX 2.0 and had page rotation/borderless printing issues. Here's how we fixed the problems:

1) Use the NX Crop Tool to crop the image to exactly the aspect ratio of your paper (eg, 4x6).

2) Then use the Size/Resolution tool in NX to size the image to the paper size.
3) Choose the paper size and orientation in the Page Setup dialog.

4) In the NX Print dialog, choose "1 per page" (don't use Output Resolution), and make sure the page orientation is correct so that the preview looks right in the dialog box.

5) In the Printer driver, do NOT change page orientation settings-- this will "double rotate" the image.

I hope this helps.

-Jason


Jason P. Odell
Colorado Nikonian
Author, The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX2
The authoritative guide to Capture NX 2.0!

www.luminescentphoto.com

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GMSweet427 Registered since 17th Feb 2007Thu 19-Jun-08 12:14 PM
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#1. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Laconia, US
          

Jason,

Thanks for the tip. I battled this exact problem last night trying to print an 8x10 onto letter sized paper. I was following the instructions in your CNX2 guide and had the following experience.

1) Double rotation - Not that I knew what to call it last night, but I was getting pretty frustrated with looking at the Epson preview window and seeing the things weren't going the correct direction. I ended up leaving the printer defaulting to landscape and CNX2 in portrait with the "Rotate to fit" box checked to finally get a "full sized" print.

2) "Full sized" print - This was problem number two. Without the "Use Output Resolution" set, I was getting a landscape print at roughly 6.5" by 8.25" in the lower left quadrant of the page. I believe a shutdown of CNX fixed that problem, but it was indeed strange. When I finally got the print out and centered on the page, it looked a little off, but I couldn't see why until I went to trim it later that night. Even though the "Use Output resolution" was set, the print came out at approximately 8.25" x 10.25". I checked all of the settings from the crop and the size/resolution and they all appeared to be correct. I ended up deleting the size/resolution step and re-applying it. This seemed to work and I ended up with an 8"x10" print.

I will test again tonight (I'm working on a color management issue) and verify my settings, but I believe I was able to follow your instructions from your guide once I re-applied the size/resolution step, left the paper orientation settings alone, and checked the "Rotate to Fit" box. I'll post back with my findings with a few different prints to see if I can nail down the workflow. All in all a pretty frustrating first time printing out of CNX2.

Thanks for the updates and great job on the books; they've been extremely useful.

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GMSweet427 Registered since 17th Feb 2007Fri 20-Jun-08 01:42 AM
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#2. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Laconia, US
          

Just a follow-up to my previous post...

I haven't had a lot of time tonight to test, but things haven't been working out that well for me with satisfactory prints. I switched over to 4x6 sized prints and cannot seem to get an accurately sized print out. I'm losing a portion on the edges. I've tried re-sizing with re-sampling and without. The only consistent item I've found is that for landscapes prints I need to have my printer set (printing preferences outside of CNX2) to landscape, CNX2 (page setup) set to portrait and then check the "Rotate to fit" box in order to get a reasonable print. Portrait was a little different where it seemed to want the printer and the page setup dialogs to agree on potrait.

I'm sure someone will come along and correct my mistakes on this, but I think I'll try printing out of CNX 1.3 tomorrow and see what happens.

Thanks,

Matt

  

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geography3 Registered since 13th Feb 2006Fri 20-Jun-08 02:39 AM
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#3. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Burien, US
          

I have tried what has been recommended with no success. Capture 1.3 had no problems in regards to printing so what has changed. I have emailed Nikon and sent them files and print screens of what is happening. They keep saying it has to do my settings and now they want all the information of my XP system. We are dealing with a bug in NX3. That is all. I could take a non cropped NEF file from my D40 and print a nice borderless 4X6 print from it. The sensor is already a 2X3 ratio so it should print a nice 4X6 with no problem like it did in 1.3.

  

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kuttler Silver Member Nikonian since 11th Jun 2004Fri 20-Jun-08 03:12 AM
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#4. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Boston, US
          

I agree with the printing problems outlined here! 4x6 in NX 1.3 no problems in portrait or landscape... I have tried Jason's recommendations to no avail.

This is a bug.. just need to get them to see it..

I would also really like a setting that did the equivalent of Ctrl-0 when opening from View NX....

Dave

  

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DrJay32 Gold Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions for the Resources and eZine Nikonian since 12th Mar 2003Fri 20-Jun-08 12:35 PM
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#5. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

Dave-
Another thing to try is to set the page orientation in your printer setup and then choose the "rotate to fit" option in the NX print menu.

-Jason


Jason P. Odell
Colorado Nikonian
Author, The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX2
The authoritative guide to Capture NX 2.0!

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biggles1 Registered since 29th Apr 2007Sat 21-Jun-08 01:36 AM
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#6. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Sat 21-Jun-08 01:38 AM by biggles1

St. Albert, CA
          

I have a Canon i960 on a Mac Pro with Os X 10.5.3 and NX 2.0 trial version.

I followed Jason's original suggestions and successfully produced a 4 x 6 print followed by an 8 x 10 on letter size paper.



  

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NASattack Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Feb 2008Sat 21-Jun-08 05:43 AM
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#7. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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I am going to wait for Nikon to fix this problem before I make my purchase.

Steve

  

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#25. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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I've tried NX2 several times now (i've used NX in all versions with success) and it doesn't work seamlessly with my epson r2400. I can get it to work, but you have to stop and take steps. Frankly, I consider NX2 to be a beta version at best. It should not be on the market yet; too many bugs.

  

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dksledd Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Aug 2006Fri 27-Jun-08 06:45 PM
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#15. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Sat 28-Jun-08 11:25 AM by dksledd

Spring Hill, US
          

I also have an i960 along with a R1800 Epson. I have attempted to print using all of the processes on this Forum without success. I couldn't even get a full 8X10 size print after using the Size/Resolution tool. My landscape 8X10's are coming out at only 8.25 inches in width.
Dick

  

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FR Bob Registered since 11th Jul 2003Tue 24-Jun-08 12:06 AM
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#8. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Boston, US
          

By Clicking Portrait in NX and Clicking "Rotate to fit" will place the print into Landscape.

On Windows machines .net frame ( required by Capture ) wants to control the printing on the O/S. When CaptureNX and the O/S collide it produces half printed, wrong orientation and other little annoyances.



Not a CaptureNX bug more like shoddy work.

  

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geography3 Registered since 13th Feb 2006Tue 24-Jun-08 03:33 AM
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#9. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Burien, US
          


Whose shoddy work are we talking about? I just tried to print a 4X6 borderless print that was already a portrait and clicked on rotate to fit and while I got a 4X6 it was not borderless.

  

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FR Bob Registered since 11th Jul 2003Tue 24-Jun-08 05:10 PM
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#11. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Boston, US
          

The shoddy work of those who wrote NX2. As pointed out by others this isn't a problem in nx 1.3 and it shouldn't be a problem now.

FR. Bob

  

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FR Bob Registered since 11th Jul 2003Tue 24-Jun-08 05:10 PM
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#12. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Boston, US
          

The shoddy work of those who wrote NX2. As pointed out by others this isn't a problem in nx 1.3 and it shouldn't be a problem now.

FR. Bob

  

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GMSweet427 Registered since 17th Feb 2007Tue 24-Jun-08 11:30 AM
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#10. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Laconia, US
          

>By Clicking Portrait in NX and Clicking "Rotate to
>fit" will place the print into Landscape.
>
>On Windows machines .net frame ( required by Capture ) wants
>to control the printing on the O/S. When CaptureNX and the O/S
>collide it produces half printed, wrong orientation and other
>little annoyances.
>
>
>
>Not a CaptureNX bug more like shoddy work.


While I would like to agree with you on the MS .Net Framework being at the root of the problem, I can't see this as anything other than a NX bug. 1.3 continues to work just fine on my machine for printing where 2.0 does not. Nothing else changed on my PC except the version of Capture NX. BTW, IIRC, the new version of View NX works fine as well; it's been a while since I tested it, but I think that was how I finally got a complete print out when I started having problems.

Nikon/Nik changed something in the print subsystem of the new version and now it doesn't work. I'm not a programmer, but after years of supporting applications where the developers choose to not to follow the MS APIs I've seen things like this all over the place. I'm sure we'll 2.0.1 coming out before too long and now that this type of problem is known, Jay will add this to his list of things that he tests with upcoming releases. Perhaps he found the problem while working through his eBook, but Nikon/Nik has been slow to respond.

Anyway, happy rotating to fit printing.

Matt

  

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john4jack Registered since 24th Mar 2007Thu 26-Jun-08 03:45 AM
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#13. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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CORVALLIS, US
          

This discussion certainly re-enforces my present workflow of when I do editing in NX or NX 2 to print in either Photoshop or Lightroom; I tend to prefer Lightroom because of all of the nifty things that you can do in their Print module (including adding an identity plate). Even when it works right, printing is one of the weakest parts of NX.
john4jack

  

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GMSweet427 Registered since 17th Feb 2007Thu 26-Jun-08 11:42 AM
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#14. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Laconia, US
          

Thanks for the tip John4Jack. I hadn't thought about using a non-nikon product for printing. I only have PSE 5, but I believe it will accept a 16-Bit TIF for basic functions. I'll try a few prints doing all of my typical processing through output sharpening in NX then send the 16-Bit TIF to PSE5 for printing and see how I make out.

Thanks,

Matt

  

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dksledd Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Aug 2006Sat 28-Jun-08 02:23 PM
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#16. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Spring Hill, US
          

Jason,
I reset all of my print commands for my Canon i960 and Epson R1800 and directly only followed your instructions from your NX 2 document. I am now printing photos in the correct size with proper borders and proper Portrait and Landscape positions. Thanks for your help.
Dick

  

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Sat 28-Jun-08 11:21 PM
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Sat 28-Jun-08 11:26 PM by gol4man

Jupiter, US
          

>I just returned from the Nikonians Academy Advance Workflow
>workshop where folks were printing with NX 2.0 and had page
>rotation/borderless printing issues. Here's how we fixed the
>problems:
>
>1) Use the NX Crop Tool to crop the image to exactly the
>aspect ratio of your paper (eg, 4x6).
>
>2) Then use the Size/Resolution tool in NX to size the image
>to the paper size.
>3) Choose the paper size and orientation in the Page Setup
>dialog.
>
>4) In the NX Print dialog, choose "1 per page"
>(don't use Output Resolution), and make sure the page
>orientation is correct so that the preview looks right in the
>dialog box.
>
>5) In the Printer driver, do NOT change page orientation
>settings-- this will "double rotate" the image.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>-Jason
>
>
>Jason P. Odell
>Colorado Nikonian
>
Author, The
>Photographer's Guide to Capture NX2

> The
>authoritative guide to Capture NX 2.0!>
>
>
www.luminescentphoto.com
>
>Listen to The Image Doctors

Jason, I am still having problems with printing. I have tried all you said to do. I use a Canon i9900 printer and it worked fine with NX1. I have tried every possible way to get a good print in NX2 and it simply cannot be done. I set paper size to 4X6 and cropped and resized to 4X6 and it all looks good in the preview in NX. But in the printer preview the picture does not even come close to filling the sheet, it usually is just to one side leaving a large white area on the top and right hand side. The prints come out the same was as the preview before printing look.

I have called Nikon Tech support twice now and they claim to have had no one complaining about this situation. Maybe we all need to call and email them at ask nikon Tech a question. I also have an open question awaiting an answer.

The only solution I have found to date is use the feature in the file tab (File/Open with...) that allows you to open an edited file in another program directly. I use this option once I have a photo edited. I set up the program I want in the preferences area in NX2 to select elements 5. This is a great way to do it by the way, since the photo is automatically opened up in Elements 5 as a TIFF and thus saves all the editing and color etc adjustments. The files print perfectly in PS just as before.

Hopefully they will get this fixed. Hope you are working with Nikon and they will listen. I bet you have more horsepower than I do.

  

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#18. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Burien, US
          



I have been dealing with tech support at Nikon for a few weeks concerning the printing problem in NX2. They had me send files to them, computer info to them and so forth. They have not written back for a week now after my last reply to what they wanted. I keep telling them to just take a picture with any Nikon camera and see what happens when they try to print it. All they are going to do by denying any problem is to get people to use other software. I read some suggestions of how to work around the problem but that is not what I want. I want NX2 to print as NX1.3 did, VERY SIMPLY.

  

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asaya Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2007Sun 29-Jun-08 01:42 AM
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#19. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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East Syracuse, US
          

I guess I have to concur with the frustration. I just shot a wedding and need to provide prints to couple. Guess I am going to stick with 1.3 version until a fix comes around for NX2.

  

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#20. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Jupiter, US
          

Jason,

This is a follow-up. I finally got NX2 to print a borderless print. The technique described at the start of this thread works. I was confused before. The important thing is to not touch or click any orientation button in page set up ahead of time.

What worked for me was to open a photo, edit it. I did not need to resize or crop it. Before printing I used page set-up. But all I did was to specify the paper size and type and color controls and print preview. DO NOT touch or click any orientation buttons in the page setup.

Then merely click the "print/file" or use the printer button up at the top and when print setup opens up rotate the photo if necessary to fit the displayed page area. Mine was a landscape photo so I rotated and it now displayed the picture landscape but rotated 90 degrees so that I was looking at it in portrait mode but with the picture rotated to fit. When I clicked print, the page setup window displayed again. I then used the opportunity to zero out any print margins to get a boderless print.

I did not have to resize or crop for this one. I suppose if I wanted an 8 X 10 photo I would have had to crop for this ratio during editing.

Thanks jason and I hope this will help others. Hope this gets fixed soon by Nikon. I will email them again right now.

Phil Flusche

  

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LMMiller9 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2005Fri 04-Jul-08 06:55 PM
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#21. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Potomac, US
          

I am very sorry, but I have tried every piece of advice in this thread and I cannot get a correctly sized print from NX2 to my Epson R2400. I had no problem with each previous version of NX. This is a terrible bug and a very sloppy piece of work by the programmers. There is no excuse for it.

Larry Miller, Potomac, MD
DF/D800
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#30. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Potomac, US
          

I did finally get it to print correctly. And, as stated elsewhere, the key was living it on portrait, but clicking the "rotate to fit" function.

I also agree that the program is otherwise excellent for editing.

Larry Miller, Potomac, MD
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#22. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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So here is what I found, in case it is helpful to anyone (I do not have a dedicated photo printer, so things may be different for you):

When I go to print, on the initial Print Layout screen, I set it to the settings I want (1 UP, rotate to fit, crop image).

When I select the Page Setup button, on the Page Setup screen, the Printer button where you can go into the printer settings, is not selectable and there are print margins that cannot be changed. *** IMHO, this is what is wrong, it is essentially locked into the original print preferences ***

I then go ahead and select the Print button and the Print dialogue screen comes up. Now I can select on the Properties button and change the print preferences to what I want (paper type, paper size, borderless printing, etc.). I also select Print Preview because of the noted problems.

When the Print Preview happens, it still has the border. I cancel the printing and go back to Capture NX.

The next time I go to print, and from the Print Layout screen, select the Page Setup button, I can set the margins to 0 and the Printer button is enabled, fixing the problem identified above.

Hopefully this is helpful. Thanks.

  

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Wed 09-Jul-08 12:15 AM
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#23. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Jupiter, US
          

Glad you figured it out. It sounds like you did exactly what I did and what was recommended at the start of this train of discussion. I have had a few emails from Nikon after I complained. In the last one they said something to the effect that there have been a "few isolated reports of printing problems". Like as if not everyone is having the problems and that they are investigating. I suggest you and everyone lodge a strong gripe with them. If they get enough gripes they might just do something about the problem. I even talked to them on the phone at tech support. I talked to three different people and none of them were aware of the probelm or were able to give any help.

  

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geography3 Registered since 13th Feb 2006Wed 09-Jul-08 01:06 AM
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#24. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Burien, US
          

If I do a hand stand, then a couple of jumping jacks, and finally 25 push ups I tend not to care whether the program can print directily or not. I hope eveyone finds this helpful.

Steven

  

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lmogens Registered since 21st Jun 2008Sat 12-Jul-08 03:10 PM
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#26. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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DK
          

Nothing focuses the mind as the prospect of being executed...

I purchased a NX 2 upgrade key and started experimenting in earnest with printing: The following setup works with my Canon iP4500 printer:

1) On the print page layout page, use a) Select layout: 1 Photo on Page, b) Rotate to fit (always, irrespective of image orientation).

2) In the printer driver, use Portrait Orientation (again, irrespective of image orientation).

That's all!

In order to arrive at this I first printed to a PDF-file, saving a bundle on inks and paper.

Hope this will prove helpful to others.

  

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dgillilan Silver Member Nikonian since 15th May 2006Sun 13-Jul-08 12:31 AM
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#27. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Thanks Imogens and all others who helped in this thread. I printed my first time tonight in NX2, and guess what? My print was cut off and was not printed 8x10, etc. I referred back to this thread that I recalled, and used the exact strategy that Imogens outlines, and my next print was correct - 8x10, 10 being long side horizontal, and specified "PORTRAIT" in the printer driver, correct output size in printed area, and exactly all else per the Imogens suggestion. Others also have stated the same thing (I think) in a little longer words above in this thread.
So I only wasted one sheet. Definitely a NX2 bug.(worked fine in NX)
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NW Geoff Registered since 31st Oct 2005Thu 14-Aug-08 06:58 PM
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#37. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Bellingham, US
          

THANKS!

I have been printing for a couple on months with NX2 and Epson 2400 without a single problem. I like the new features on NX2.

But a couple days ago the images all started printing in the lower left corner. I spent several hours trying to solve the problem. I should have checked this forum earlier.

It is great to have a resource like Nikonian.

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Sun 13-Jul-08 03:18 AM
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#28. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Jupiter, US
          

This is off the subject but I do want to say how much I am enjoying NX2. It is a fantastic product that makes editing fun. I also want to especially thank Jason for the fine Guide to NX2 that he has made available. After a quick read, I am now able to at least partially use the product to its capability. Hopefully I will get better. I absolutely love the gradient and point selection tools which makes it a breeze to fix some things I could not do before. The develop area is also vastly improved over NX1. I highly recommend Jason's NX2 guide. Good reading with lots of very useful information for those trying to get better and maybe even useful to those who are more professonal than me.

  

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DrJay32 Gold Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions for the Resources and eZine Nikonian since 12th Mar 2003Tue 15-Jul-08 06:18 PM
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#29. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Thanks.

And just to clarify here. Your PRINT Setup dialog (in the OS) must be set to PORTRAIT. Then allow NX 2.0 to "rotate to fit" in the NX print dialog. It's a case of "double rotation" otherwise.

-Jason


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DeepCat Basic MemberMon 21-Jul-08 07:37 PM
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#31. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Plainfield, US
          

Jason,
I've been a "lurker" for quite a while on Nikonians but have not previously been tempted to directly participate since someone has usually "beat me to the point" or I was simply learning from the postings. However, my experience with printing from NX 2.0 has energized me to amplify and add to other's comments on this topic. I should note that your "work around" posted above partly catalyzed my finally upgrading my membership back to Silver.

NX 2.0 has printing bugs. I use a Windows XP Pro SP2 system and an Epson R800 printer that worked simply and seamlessly with NX 1.3 (and previous versions). Since I left NX 1.3 installed when I upgraded to NX 2.0, I fortunately can do direct comparisons between the two versions. (However, it doesn't appear that both versions can be run at the same time in different windows)

My workflow with 1.3 was simply to select File Print at whatever point I felt I was done with my edit list. I used the NX Print dialog to access the Page Setup dialog and choose my printer (the Epson R800 is not the default printer). Next I would choose the "Printer" button on the "Page Setup page to access the Printer Driver. In the Printer Driver I set the paper type, size, orientation and resolution (photo, best photo, best photo R), plus and most importantly, ICM & No (Printer) Color Management. (In actuality, I only had to set the "ICM & No Color Management" option as the remainder could be set in either the Page Setup or the Capture NX Print dialogs and they would correspondingly update the settings in the other) Saving these settings in the printer driver would drop me back to the Page Setup dialog where I would double check the paper size and orientation and could change them if necessary (They in turn would change the same settings back in the Printer Driver). Selecting OK from here would drop me back to the NX print dialog where I would choose Color Management and pick the specific Paper Driver. Next I would select 1 up, number of copies and I would print.

The NX driver would automatically adapt the resolution of the print for the paper without interpolation. That is a 4X6 might print at 750dpi and an 8.5X11 might print at 350dpi (just example numbers). I didn't worry about this because I knew that if I hadn't cropped much and wasn't printing too large I didn't need to specifically size the print and make decisions on interpolation utilizing the Edit - Size menu in NX. This was a real convenience.

With NX 2.0 I can no longer do this simple tiered workflow. First I have to remember to add an Edit-Size step to the edit list, regardless of final size. Next, if I choose File Print and then select Page Setup I can still change my printer but the "Printer" button to access the Printer Driver is now greyed out. So instead I must select File, Page Setup to change the Printer and then to access the Printer Driver. I then OK twice to get back up to the main menu and then choose File Print. Then I set the color management steps and print "1 up". (I have been using Page Setup to change print orientation but could try the auto rotation that you mentioned.) However, if I don't like the appearance of the print and want to try a "Printer Color Management" enhanced print I can't simply click on the Page-Setup button on the NX Print dialog. I must go back to the main menu File-Page Setup, then Printer, change the settings, back up twice, select File-Print, etc.

Since I have both programs working in the same computing resource environment, it eliminates other environmental variables. The NX Program print environment was changed and not for the better.

Jason, since you are a very accomplished NX user and author, you must have noted these types of differences (and perhaps more). I sincerely appreciate the work around solution that you have provided but have found it so unwieldy that I have reverted to NX 1.3 for any prints that I must do quickly like sets of 4X6s. Of course any changes that I do with tools specific to NX 2.0 don't appear in NX 1.3. I think that you are in a better credibility position than most of us to establish with Nikon the need to address these annoying bugs immediately and I sincerely hope you do so. I will also send a version of this letter to Nikon myself.

  

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kdsmithjr Basic MemberMon 21-Jul-08 08:58 PM
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#33. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Ithaca, US
          

You said:
"With NX 2.0 I can no longer do this simple tiered workflow."

LOL.....It seems that Nikon has taken the "work" part of workflow quite seriously. Too bad they haven't gotten the "flow" part down pat yet.

  

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kdsmithjr Basic MemberMon 21-Jul-08 08:55 PM
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#32. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Ithaca, US
          

And this is what Nikon calls software?

How about (like all the other high end editors handle printing) setting the size of the paper, choosing color management, disabling the printer software (typically) and then pressing "print."

Wow....what a concept!

  

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Garydg Registered since 20th Jan 2006Wed 06-Aug-08 06:40 PM
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#34. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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US
          

I’m not a patient person! Don’t like the idea of spending time and resources on something that shouldn’t be broken in first place. But in this case it may have worked to my advantage?
I finally went out and purchased a copy of Qimage to do my printing. Really don’t like the idea of spending additional money on software but after spending the last 30 days learning Qimage, even if they resolve the problems with CNX 2.0 I doubt I would go back to it for my printing. I have found Qimage to be an excellent addition to my workflow.

Sorry Nikon, but I can’t quite bring myself to thank you for sloppy programming.

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#35. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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NL
          

I cannot get it right. The borderless works, but I cannot get the colours right. Dark grey becomes silver and skin tones become red. My current workaround is to export the file to tiff, import it in Aperture and use their print dialog. That works just fine. Is there something like qimage for us Mac users?

?

  

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Thu 14-Aug-08 09:13 PM
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#39. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Jupiter, US
          

I just have to ask. What are your color management settings under EDIT/PREFERENCES/COLOR MANAGEMENT in NX2

Uless you have specific reason to change it I suggest that you leave the use this instead of embedded profile unchecked". So that if you already selected sRGB in your Nikon Camera then the picture will come up sRGB when you edit it. If you want to work in sRGB instead of the embedded profile then checking this will cause it to be converted to whatever you want. I have Adobe sRGB 4.0.0.3001 selected in this box with the box unchecked. I have the second option "CMYK Seperation Profile" set to Nikon CMYK 4.0.0.3000 and in the third option for the printer profile I have also selected Nikon sRGB 4.0.0.3001, but this can be overridden in the Print window when it comes up under the color control tab at the time of printing. I find that I get very good pictures that look pretty much what I see on the screen this way while other settings get some screwy results. Under intent I selected perceptual and leave the black point compensation unchecked.

Perhaps the moderator can jump in here give some better tips than my strictly amateur understanding. I cannot remember what he says in his NX2 guide. I have tried lots of things and those above seem to work best for me and my Canon i9900 printer.

  

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kuttler Silver Member Nikonian since 11th Jun 2004Fri 15-Aug-08 01:58 AM
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#40. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Boston, US
          

Does anyone know of any updates to printing in NX-2 other than the ones suggested.

I cannot get a Nikon response for status on this problem, and I prefer not going to CS3 just to print... It makes me want to start there to begin with....

Dave

  

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sizzlingbadger Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Apr 2008Fri 15-Aug-08 09:50 PM
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#41. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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NZ
          

>I cannot get it right. The borderless works, but I cannot get
>the colours right. Dark grey becomes silver and skin tones
>become red. My current workaround is to export the file to
>tiff, import it in Aperture and use their print dialog. That
>works just fine. Is there something like qimage for us Mac
>users?


Why do you want to spend more $$$ on a product to print when you have already proved Aperture works for you ?

  

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rsprouse Registered since 29th Aug 2004Wed 13-Aug-08 07:04 PM
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#36. "Qimage"
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San Diego (Encinitas), US
          

After wasting lots of time, paper and ink trying to get various image manipulation programs to print consistently, I discovered Qimage. I no longer print any images with any other software. It just works.

-- Russ

  

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#38. "RE: Qimage"
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Ithaca, US
          

nx2 is still really in a beta form, though its for sale. wait until nx2.1. better.

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Sun 17-Aug-08 09:05 PM
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#42. "RE: Qimage"
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Jupiter, US
          

>After wasting lots of time, paper and ink trying to get
>various image manipulation programs to print consistently, I
>discovered Qimage. I no longer print any images with any
>other software. It just works.
>
> -- Russ
I visited the qimage web site but still have a couple of questions. what exactly does the program do? and secondly which version do you recommend and why?

  

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FR Bob Registered since 11th Jul 2003Wed 20-Aug-08 10:12 PM
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#43. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips NX2 2.0.1 UPDATE AVAILABLE"
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Boston, US
          

Sopposed to fix the Printing problems a few people had

FR. Bob

  

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bilmah Registered since 24th Jan 2008Sun 31-Aug-08 04:42 AM
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#44. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips NX2 2.0.1 UPDATE AVAILABLE"
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Bellingham, US
          

Does it?

  

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gol4man Registered since 11th Jul 2006Sun 31-Aug-08 01:19 PM
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#45. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips NX2 2.0.1 UPDATE AVAILABLE"
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Jupiter, US
          

>Does it?

I updated and now can specify Lanscape or Portrait and the print with preview looks normal and prints normally. HOWEVER the print with preview is still always in the portait mode. At least the picture is all there and fills the box. They still have work to do since the orientation is still wrong for landape photos.

  

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Kevzphoto Registered since 14th Jan 2009Fri 23-Jan-09 02:57 AM
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#46. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips NX2 2.0.1 UPDATE AVAILABLE"
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CA
          

I wish NX2 had the apply "canvas" function (like Photoshop)...which is very handy when sending custom cropped, non-standard ratio files to the local print lab.

You'd a thought they would have included that feature.

Maybe next time around.

KEV

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#47. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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After reading through the frustration evident in this entire thread I am left to ask why anyone uses NX2 to print anyway?

I output to JPEG and save in a folder. I then use the printing program that came with my Canon i9000 printer and (Easy Print) and print out 4x6 or 5x7 prints without any issues at all.

If I make a change in Capture NX 2, I just save it and print it using the software that comes with the printer, which matches up the color profiles and works perfectly.

While I agree that NX2 ought to output seamlessly, I never face that issue because I am never printing from NX2.

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geography3 Registered since 13th Feb 2006Fri 03-Apr-09 04:02 AM
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#48. "RE: NX 2.0 Printing Tips"
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Burien, US
          

I was hoping NX 2.2 would solve the printing issue but it has not. I am not going to resize my images to print them correctly. A 4X6 borderless print should print from my files since they are all 2X3 ratio without any cropping or jumping through hoops. Capture NX1 never had this problem and neither does Lightroom.

Steven


  

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